Evan Fitzner to IU

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22 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Something i wonder is if our guards had been getting better pressure on the ball carrier if Derons deficincies in the defense look as glaring. 

My guess is that he would have played more minutes and by doing so he may have recorded at least one 20-point game, which I guess is what it takes to be viewed as a basketball player with any skill.

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2 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

Something i wonder is if our guards had been getting better pressure on the ball carrier if Derons deficincies in the defense look as glaring. 

Maybe, but I don't see how that really changes with Fitzner.  I haven't seen him play, but I have to doubt that he really offers any kind of rim protection when he blocked a grand total of 28 shots in three years.  One thing striking to me is that St.Mary's employed just a seven man rotation and that Fitzner was one of only two players over 6'6".  He was set to be the only returning big.  From what I've seen the only recruit they have for 2018 is one player.....a nice recruit, #87 ranked overall player a post.  But it seems strange to me that if we are expecting him to come in and be our starting center, it would seem strange to expect that of a guy who by all means left a situation where he should have been getting big minutes somewhere else after not getting that much last year.

I expect him to be in the mix for minutes but I think that I were to set the over/under on minutes he would  get I would put it at about what he got last year at St.Mary's ....15 mpg.

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6 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

I’m definitely not an Fitzner expert but I knew who he was and watched a lot of St Mary’s games over the years he played and now I will get a chance to watch all of his games for IU. I’m interested in seeing how he will play in a system where they play more offensive possessions and run a little more.


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Well, yeah, you would. Retry: I doubt anyone on this board besides Uspshoosier even knew the name before 2 weeks ago.

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10 hours ago, yogisballin said:

That’s why I’ve been so quiet. Not enough footage for me to make a judgement on the kid. I’m gonna trust the staff on this one. He’s a shooter and we have a need for another shooter so I’m happy with it.


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Exactly.  Arguing over whether Davis or Fitzner should be on the court is useless. They both have their own skill sets and because they are very different, matchup will dictate who is on when assuming they are both healthy.  But what we did do by gaining him.is give ourselves an option and another look.  For all we know at this time, Race Thompson could be in the middle more often than either one.

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Exactly.  Arguing over whether Davis or Fitzner should be on the court is useless. They both have their own skill sets and because they are very different, matchup will dictate who is on when assuming they are both healthy.  But what we did do by gaining him.is give ourselves an option and another look.  For all we know at this time, Race Thompson could be in the middle more often than either one.

I don’t think Fitzner is a play “in the middle” type of player. What little I’ve seen of him, it looks like he is guarding a wing player. So to me, he is a big 3 or stretch 4. Just my 5 cents


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I don’t think Fitzner is a play “in the middle” type of player. What little I’ve seen of him, it looks like he is guarding a wing player. So to me, he is a big 3 or stretch 4. Just my 5 cents


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On offense, that should help spread the floor for Morgan to work in the post. On defense, we'll need to help from with Morgan or Smith, if Fitzner is defending the post.


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I don’t think Fitzner is a play “in the middle” type of player. What little I’ve seen of him, it looks like he is guarding a wing player. So to me, he is a big 3 or stretch 4. Just my 5 cents


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No he isn't. At least Isaac Haas is gone.

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20 hours ago, yogisballin said:

I don’t think Fitzner is a play “in the middle” type of player. What little I’ve seen of him, it looks like he is guarding a wing player. So to me, he is a big 3 or stretch 4. Just my 5 cents


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You might be right, but bringing Fitzner in as a 3 or 4 makes no sense to me. And if they aren't planning on him getting solid minutes then why bring him in at all? I seriously doubt he knowingly transfers to play the same or fewer minutes at IU then he did at SMC.

Not disagreeing with your assessment, he definitely doesn't look like low-post banger, I'm just very curious to see how he'll fit and IU already has plenty of 3-4 players: Hunter, McRoberts, Anderson, Morgan, Smith, Thompson, maybe even Romeo (3) and Moore(4).  

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29 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

You might be right, but bringing Fitzner in as a 3 or 4 makes no sense to me. And if they aren't planning on him getting solid minutes then why bring him in at all? I seriously doubt he knowingly transfers to play the same or fewer minutes at IU then he did at SMC.

Not disagreeing with your assessment, he definitely doesn't look like low-post banger, I'm just very curious to see how he'll fit and IU already has plenty of 3-4 players: Hunter, McRoberts, Anderson, Morgan, Smith, Thompson, maybe even Romeo (3) and Moore(4).  

Playing devil's advocate for a minute ... one could argue that there's a reason he spent 3 years at SMC instead of IU, or any other major... I like what little that I've seen of his game, but does it make sense for something of a role player at a mid-major to transfer into a major program and expect significantly more minutes?

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21 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Playing devil's advocate for a minute ... one could argue that there's a reason he spent 3 years at SMC instead of IU, or any other major... I like what little that I've seen of his game, but does it make sense for something of a role player at a mid-major to transfer into a major program and expect significantly more minutes?

It's a fair question....for Archie. He must have a reason for bringing him in and Fitzner must have agreed with it.

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40 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Playing devil's advocate for a minute ... one could argue that there's a reason he spent 3 years at SMC instead of IU, or any other major... I like what little that I've seen of his game, but does it make sense for something of a role player at a mid-major to transfer into a major program and expect significantly more minutes?

First off, I don't like the number of transfers throughout college basketball.  I view grad transfers a little different because I feel they have fulfilled their initial commitment to their original program.  As far as transferring to a bigger program, if there is a fit I have no problem adding them.  I don't believe Fitzner was guaranteed a starting spot or X amount of minutes.  His minutes will be dependent on his production.  He does fit a huge need for us next season and I'm excited to see how it plays out.  I could see him getting between 15-20 minutes.

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30 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

It's a fair question....for Archie. He must have a reason for bringing him in and Fitzner must have agreed with it.

Yeah, no doubt Archie and the staff had a plan for bringing him in, otherwise, he'd be enrolling somewhere else... but you didn't address my point, specifically in response to your statement "I seriously doubt he knowingly transfers to play the same or fewer minutes at IU then [sic] he did at SMC". That, most likely, is exactly what happened. I seriously doubt Archie promised him anything more than an opportunity to play here - certainly no guarantee to start, or even get more minutes than he got at SMU.

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You might be right, but bringing Fitzner in as a 3 or 4 makes no sense to me. And if they aren't planning on him getting solid minutes then why bring him in at all? I seriously doubt he knowingly transfers to play the same or fewer minutes at IU then he did at SMC.
Not disagreeing with your assessment, he definitely doesn't look like low-post banger, I'm just very curious to see how he'll fit and IU already has plenty of 3-4 players: Hunter, McRoberts, Anderson, Morgan, Smith, Thompson, maybe even Romeo (3) and Moore(4).  

Do any of those guys shoot the same % from 3 as Fitzner? That was definitely a weakness last year for us.


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1 hour ago, 8bucks said:

Do any of those guys shoot the same % from 3 as Fitzner? That was definitely a weakness last year for us.


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Fitzner fills a HUGE weakness/hole we had last year.  A big man that can stretch the floor will do wonders for us on the offensive side, even if he is only averaging 6-10 minutes per game

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Maybe. He does not rebound well. And in his career has only taken about 80 freethrows.

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Playing devil's advocate for a minute ... one could argue that there's a reason he spent 3 years at SMC instead of IU, or any other major... I like what little that I've seen of his game, but does it make sense for something of a role player at a mid-major to transfer into a major program and expect significantly more minutes?

Pretty much my thinking. I guess I just don't get it but until I see him play I simply cannot be as sky high on this guy as some on here. I just don't see a role player from a mid major playing more minutes in the big ten. I guess I'm the crazy one.

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1 minute ago, Bailey7878 said:

Pretty much my thinking. I guess I just don't get it but until I see him play I simply cannot be as sky high on this guy as some on here. I just don't see a role player from a mid major playing more minutes in the big ten. I guess I'm the crazy one.

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I still dont get how a 2 year starter is a role player

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I still dont get how a 2 year starter is a role player

Did he start his Jr year?

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1 minute ago, Bailey7878 said:

Did he start his Jr year?

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No because they changed the system. It wasnt a condemnation of his abilities. The fans seem to think he got a raw deal even. 

 

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No because they changed the system. It wasnt a condemnation of his abilities. The fans seem to think he got a raw deal even. 
 

Well I go off the most recent year. I'm keeping my expectations realistic on this. I expect him to play 5 to 12 minutes a game and average 5 to 6 points and 3 to 4 boards. Maybe I will be wrong.


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