Sean Miller caught on phone

[LamarCheeks]

I might be in the minority on this -- hell, I might be the only one -- but this really bums me out. I actually liked Sean Miller. When I went to watch IU play in the 1991 NCAA tournament in Louisville, Sean was there with Pittsburgh. He was the point guard. I saw and heard him at the press conferences. He just seemed like an old-fashioned baller, a kid who grew up in the gym as a coach's son and had to earn everything he got -- because he certainly wasn't the most talented kid on the block. They talked at that NCAA regional about how he had essentially been running the team since his freshman year -- because he knew his sh-t, and even his older teammates recognized that. He was one of those guys who, because of his background of busting his butt, seemed like he wouldn't even want to take shortcuts. ... And to find out he's pulling crap like this is really, really disappointing. And as someone mentioned earlier, like it or not, I think Archie automatically gets a cloud around him because that's his big bro. 

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16 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

I might be in the minority on this -- hell, I might be the only one -- but this really bums me out. I actually liked Sean Miller. When I went to watch IU play in the 1991 NCAA tournament in Louisville, Sean was there with Pittsburgh. He was the point guard. I saw and heard him at the press conferences. He just seemed like an old-fashioned baller, a kid who grew up in the gym as a coach's son and had to earn everything he got -- because he certainly wasn't the most talented kid on the block. They talked at that NCAA regional about how he had essentially been running the team since his freshman year -- because he knew his sh-t, and even his older teammates recognized that. He was one of those guys who, because of his background of busting his butt, seemed like he wouldn't even want to take shortcuts. ... And to find out he's pulling crap like this is really, really disappointing. And as someone mentioned earlier, like it or not, I think Archie automatically gets a cloud around him because that's his big bro. 

At this point cheating isn't a shortcut. It's just the way. 

I don't blame Sean for doing it. Pitino and Izzo are scum in my books. Sean is just a guy playing the game. 

[Bailey7878]

I might be in the minority on this -- hell, I might be the only one -- but this really bums me out. I actually liked Sean Miller. When I went to watch IU play in the 1991 NCAA tournament in Louisville, Sean was there with Pittsburgh. He was the point guard. I saw and heard him at the press conferences. He just seemed like an old-fashioned baller, a kid who grew up in the gym as a coach's son and had to earn everything he got -- because he certainly wasn't the most talented kid on the block. They talked at that NCAA regional about how he had essentially been running the team since his freshman year -- because he knew his sh-t, and even his older teammates recognized that. He was one of those guys who, because of his background of busting his butt, seemed like he wouldn't even want to take shortcuts. ... And to find out he's pulling crap like this is really, really disappointing. And as someone mentioned earlier, like it or not, I think Archie automatically gets a cloud around him because that's his big bro. 

But are you really surprised? He was pulling in 5 stars left and right. Heck he was on track to possibly land the best class in the country before October. Bol bol, shittu Barnett, quickley and little all favored Arizona or had them in the top couple. That didn't seem odd to you?

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[Bailey7878]

The Tucson paper says it needs to end tonight and it should.

The one man who seemed to be a Rock, the coach who sold the UA administration on his character and constitution, stands accused of the most compromising acts in college sports: lying and attempting to buy a recruit – and not just any recruit, but Deandre Ayton – for more money than many basketball-worshipping Tucsonans make in a year or two.

Miller cannot be allowed to coach the Wildcats again. Not Saturday at Oregon. Not ever.

The school should withdraw from the Pac-12 Tournament and notify the NCAA that it will not participate in the NCAA Tournament.

Miller’s coaching career is surely at an end. Unless this is a monu



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[Bailey7878]

The Tucson paper says it needs to end tonight and it should.

The one man who seemed to be a Rock, the coach who sold the UA administration on his character and constitution, stands accused of the most compromising acts in college sports: lying and attempting to buy a recruit – and not just any recruit, but Deandre Ayton – for more money than many basketball-worshipping Tucsonans make in a year or two.

Miller cannot be allowed to coach the Wildcats again. Not Saturday at Oregon. Not ever.

The school should withdraw from the Pac-12 Tournament and notify the NCAA that it will not participate in the NCAA Tournament.

Miller’s coaching career is surely at an end. Unless this is a monu



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Arizona is likely to enter a nuclear winter in college basketball, starting over at the lowest of low points, lower than when Ben Lindsey went 4-24 in 1982-83 and Lute Olson was hired to start over.

This will be worse.

At Arizona, as in college basketball, the leading question isn’t “what’s next?” but rather “who’s next?”




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[HoosierAloha]

I find it funny people thought these were isolated incidents. Are kids really not taking money from one school so they can go play for a coach that will get them prepared for the NBA?

Last year Nick Richards said in an interview he wasn't sure who was recruiting him or where he would go. That someone was taking care of it for him. Weird..

Anyone think the "rumors" of Bluiett's parents getting money to payoff a house are far fetched now?

Show me a "good" story and I'll show you someone getting paid.

It was a "good" story Bridges would return for his sophomore year. He wasn't ready and really loved MSU. MSU is dirty on several levels. I think they've actually been getting kids paid for staying in school..

Garland wanting his bestie to play at Vandy, "good" story. Adidas wants him to play at an Adidas school and I would bet money there have already been negotiations.

There are so many levels to this whole thing. This is just a tiny part of the big picture. The saddest part is the NCAA has taken a stance of "don't ask don't tell." The whole system needs blown up and a governing body that doesn't benefit from the popularity needs to be put in place.


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[iubb]

The NCAA and the IOC:

Two of the most corrupt organizations in sports.


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[Bailey7878]

The NCAA and the IOC:

Two of the most corrupt organizations in sports.


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I feel bad my sister went to Arizona and loves them but this is getting crazy. It's out of control. Now this.

Arizona Wildcats football players gang-raped female students and staffers, amended lawsuit claims

By Caitlin Schmidt Arizona Daily Star

Feb 23, 2018 Updated 1 hr ago



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[Magnanimous]

When things get this ugly, I just step back a bit and smirk thinking that all this mess is over a child's game...

[cappymo14]

Any concern here that Archie was a former assistant at Arizona? Is he far enough removed from that job to be beyond the FBI timeline for investigation?


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[wirenuts]

Any concern here that Archie was a former assistant at Arizona? Is he far enough removed from that job to be beyond the FBI timeline for investigation?


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I'm thinking he was coach at Dayton by then but not sure

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[Magnanimous]

[Ajwhitis]

Believe the FBI investigation only goes back 3 years. Could be wrong, thought I saw that somewhere. If that's true, Vonleh's recruitment and Williams recruitment won't be involved, at least the beginnings of it and the commitments. If anything happened during their time at IU, it might be included.


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[Geometry Hoosier]

Picture after this story broke!


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[Demo]

So, even if fired for cause, his contract language gurantees he will be paid his full remaining base salary. Wow. So, in other words, Miller, by asking for it, is telling the school, "You want a winner, I'm gonna give you a winner. But it could get ugly." And the school, by agreeing to it, is saying, "Hang us a banner, big guy!" 

Obviously UA has to cut Milker loose. But I don't want to hear a single freaking word from the school about how "shocked", or "saddened" they are, or how this behavior flies in the face of their "Mission Statement."  They literally incentivized it in his contract! 

[schoosier]

7 hours ago, Bailey7878 said:

But are you really surprised? He was pulling in 5 stars left and right. Heck he was on track to possibly land the best class in the country before October. Bol bol, shittu Barnett, quickley and little all favored Arizona or had them in the top couple. That didn't seem odd to you?

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Putting the pieces together, we all know now S Miller must have been outbid for Shiitto just like Archie for Garland. 

[HoosierDYT]

So, even if fired for cause, his contract language gurantees he will be paid his full remaining base salary. Wow. So, in other words, Miller, by asking for it, is telling the school, "You want a winner, I'm gonna give you a winner. But it could get ugly." And the school, by agreeing to it, is saying, "Hang us a banner, big guy!" 
Obviously UA has to cut Milker loose. But I don't want to hear a single freaking word from the school about how "shocked", or "saddened" they are, or how this behavior flies in the face of their "Mission Statement."  They literally incentivized it in his contract! 

This is the only reason he still has a job. If Arizona fired him, they’d have to pay around $10 million


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[mdn82]

I just thought Sean was a great recruiter. Now we know the real reason why he brought in top talent year after year.

It’s why most everyone got top talent. Not certain we know who is a top recruiter anymore. We just know who paid more.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

It’s why most everyone got top talent. Not certain we know who is a top recruiter anymore. We just know who paid more.


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Yes sir!


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[cbp4iu]

The sad thing is if Sean did get fired.... Would Archie poach any of his brother’s recruits. I’m guessing no