Corruption in College Basketball

[Brass Cannon]

1 minute ago, LamarCheeks said:

Funny how getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar changes your perspective. I recall an interview in which Slick Rick specifically said he had no interest in a return to the NBA. He basically he said "I've been there and done that." He's not officially banned from coaching college hoops, but let's face it, he's probably finished there. That leaves the NBA, G-League, WNBA, foreign ball or high schools. 

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25116516/former-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-hoping-become-nba-coaching-candidate

Be hilarious if he ends up coaching Bowen 

[ElectricBoogaloo]

Sean Miller not out of the woods yet:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25149747/board-never-said-sean-miller-job-safe

[Bailey7878]

He just landed two five stars for next year. I'd be beyond shocked if anything happens to him.

Sean Miller not out of the woods yet:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25149747/board-never-said-sean-miller-job-safe

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[Class of '66 Old Fart]

The NCAA's worst nightmare has become a reality.  The federal government has given the NCAA the OK to open its own investigation so the NCAA can no longer claim it can't do anything because its hands are tied by the government's investigation.  This oughta be good. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/feds-give-ncaa-go-ahead-begin-investigating-certain-schools-tied-college-hoops-scandal-030502043.html

[Brass Cannon]

2 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

The NCAA's worst nightmare has become a reality.  The federal government has given the NCAA the OK to open its own investigation so the NCAA can no longer claim it can't do anything because its hands are tied by the government's investigation.  This oughta be good. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/feds-give-ncaa-go-ahead-begin-investigating-certain-schools-tied-college-hoops-scandal-030502043.html

Man some lawyers are going to get a fortune to help the NCAA sweep this under the rug 

[HoosierAloha]

The NCAA's worst nightmare has become a reality.  The federal government has given the NCAA the OK to open its own investigation so the NCAA can no longer claim it can't do anything because its hands are tied by the government's investigation.  This oughta be good. 
https://sports.yahoo.com/feds-give-ncaa-go-ahead-begin-investigating-certain-schools-tied-college-hoops-scandal-030502043.html

"Ummm, we couldn't really track down anything because nobody would talk. We have cleared all schools of any wrongdoings. We've also spoke with Nike to ensure they keep providing the salaries for the recruits going to Dook, Arizona, and Kentucky. We're really happy we don't have to pay student athletes!"

Again, the NCAA is an absolute joke. Does anyone truly believe the NCAA will do more than a "3 game suspension?"


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[HoosierCoop]

1 hour ago, HoosierAloha said:

"Ummm, we couldn't really track down anything because nobody would talk. We have cleared all schools of any wrongdoings. We've also spoke with Nike to ensure they keep providing the salaries for the recruits going to Dook, Arizona, and Kentucky. We're really happy we don't have to pay student athletes!"

Again, the NCAA is an absolute joke. Does anyone truly believe the NCAA will do more than a "3 game suspension?"


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Bumper stickers - 9 game suspension

impermissible phone calls - scholarship

FBI investigation that cost $$$ in court, investigations, etc. where millions of dollars have been filtered through shoe companies to players that ensure they are going to play for a certain team that the coach plays stupid like they didn't know what was going on - 3 game suspension

Though this is supposed to be a joke, I hope that you aren't right Aloha! 

[HoosierAloha]

Just now, HoosierCoop said:

Bumper stickers - 9 game suspension

impermissible phone calls - scholarship

FBI investigation that cost $$$ in court, investigations, etc. where millions of dollars have been filtered through shoe companies to players that ensure they are going to play for a certain team that the coach plays stupid like they didn't know what was going on - 3 game suspension

Though this is supposed to be a joke, I hope that you aren't right Aloha! 

For the NCAA to actually investigate and hand out appropriate punishments they would have to admit they run on a flawed system.  Does anyone truly believe the NCAA had zero clue this was going on?  They're going to do the minimum amount to make it look like they're taking it seriously when everyone knows they will protect the bottom line, $$$$.

[MoyeNeeded]

4 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

"Ummm, we couldn't really track down anything because nobody would talk. We have cleared all schools of any wrongdoings. We've also spoke with Nike to ensure they keep providing the salaries for the recruits going to Dook, Arizona, and Kentucky. We're really happy we don't have to pay student athletes!"

Again, the NCAA is an absolute joke. Does anyone truly believe the NCAA will do more than a "3 game suspension?"


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They should be able to track something. The feds have laid out enough info and investigative work most of the work has been done for them. Gonna be hard to sweep this under the rug. 

[HoosierAloha]

They should be able to track something. The feds have laid out enough info and investigative work most of the work has been done for them. Gonna be hard to sweep this under the rug. 

They CAN but will they? Are they actually going to punish the hand (schools) that feed them? I can see this coming down on a few players getting a few game suspensions and then calling it good. What would March Madness be without the top programs being eligible? The NCAA would lose a lot of money.


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[Class of '66 Old Fart]

New development potentially involving James Wiseman.

http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/11/08/espn-report-links-would-be-agent-christian-dawkins-to-proposed-payments-to-james-wiseman-top-prospects/

[SlamaJamaSisley]

41 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

New development potentially involving James Wiseman.

http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/11/08/espn-report-links-would-be-agent-christian-dawkins-to-proposed-payments-to-james-wiseman-top-prospects/

Love this ...

I don’t know him,” Rod Hampton told ZAGSBLOG of Dawkins.

“I heard his name a lot, but I’ve never met him,” Rod Hampton, the player’s father, told ESPN. “I’m taking my @$$ to work everyday to make ends meet. I haven’t found the land of milk and honey yet, and I probably won’t find it anytime soon.”

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Ray Spalding. Lol. That recruitment had to sink Creans heart.

Cream treated him like a #1 target all July only to have Spalding verbal to Louisville moments later.

Too bad Adidas didn’t like Crean and Indiana. (Or more reasonably/possibly that Crean wasn’t playing the game).


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[SlamaJamaSisley]

4 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Ray Spalding. Lol. That recruitment had to sink Creans heart.

Cream treated him like a #1 target all July only to have Spalding verbal to Louisville moments later.

Too bad Adidas didn’t like Crean and Indiana. (Or more reasonably/possibly that Crean wasn’t playing the game).


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I don't know, I recall Crean gave the one Addidas dude a big ole hug the way it sounded.  

[southernindianahoosier2]

On 11/7/2018 at 12:00 PM, HoosierCoop said:

Bumper stickers - 9 game suspension

impermissible phone calls - scholarship

FBI investigation that cost $$$ in court, investigations, etc. where millions of dollars have been filtered through shoe companies to players that ensure they are going to play for a certain team that the coach plays stupid like they didn't know what was going on - 3 game suspension

Though this is supposed to be a joke, I hope that you aren't right Aloha! 

Serious Question... Why does IU self immolate and get the death penalty over minor allegations and nothing happens to any of the other blue bloods?

[coonhounds]

Serious Question... Why does IU self immolate and get the death penalty over minor allegations and nothing happens to any of the other blue bloods?

I think on the sampson ordeal iu self imposed and ncaa just agreed. The 9 games was crap but the 2 players ended up being non factors and didnt need them that season anyhow

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[TheWatShot]

3 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I think on the sampson ordeal iu self imposed and ncaa just agreed. The 9 games was crap but the 2 players ended up being non factors and didnt need them that season anyhow

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For some reason, a lot of our fans seem to think the NCAA hammered us for the phone calls, when all they did was give us three years probation. We dug our own graves on that one. The nine games for bumper stickers was crap, but that's just another example of what spineless disciplinarians do when their incompetence prevents them from being able to get the goods on someone else.

[Hoosier987]

24 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

For some reason, a lot of our fans seem to think the NCAA hammered us for the phone calls, when all they did was give us three years probation. We dug our own graves on that one. The nine games for bumper stickers was crap, but that's just another example of what spineless disciplinarians do when their incompetence prevents them from being able to get the goods on someone else.

Bingo - we weren't hammered. Crean dismissed players from the program and was able to buy himself close to a half decade before building a good team by using PR tactics.

BTW - we're a top 25 team in Archie's 2nd year here, and let me tell you, the cupboard was pretty bare when he came in last year.

Edited November 8, 2018 by Hoosier987

[southernindianahoosier2]

12 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Bingo - we weren't hammered. Crean dismissed players from the program and was able to buy himself close to a half decade before building a good team by using PR tactics.

BTW - we're a top 25 team in Archie's 2nd year here, and let me tell you, the cupboard was pretty bare when he came in last year.

I attended IU from 2009-2013 so don't have reference for what happened. Did the NCAA cause us to lose scholarships? Did Crean kick off players or force players to transfer? How much was Crean's doing, how much was from self punishment, and how much was the NCAA's doing in regards to what happened to the program?

Also how was it even possible for Crean to only post a 2 game win improvement from year 2 to 3? He won less big ten games (3) in year 3 than he did in year 2 (4). Its almost like a child milking an injury because he's getting special attention

[Gahoosierfan]

The problem with the NCAA is Mark Emmert.