Corruption in College Basketball

[mdn82 26,344]

He's not really out of line with what he's saying. Just saying he was curious about TB in the past and if there was anything wrong that would be where it is.

No, but this started in 2015 with AAU and shoe companies. Thomas committed in April of 2015 before AAU. Reckless at best to throw out accusations or assumptions in this situation.


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[ALASKA HOOSIER 11,330]

Just wanted everyone to know that you are keeping me from providing you with a blanket of freedom today. This controversy has me refreshing every 1 minute and not going after bad guys. hmmph

[mdn82 26,344]

Wiretaps I get, but they can't take a look into potential bidding wars for recruits? 

No cause they don't have the power to subpoena which the FBI does as well.


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[Capt. Crimson 3,983]

1 minute ago, mdn82 said:

No, but this started in 2015 with AAU and shoe companies. Thomas committed in April of 2015 before AAU. Reckless at best to throw out accusations or assumptions in this situation.


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I hope so! 

[BGleas 9,031]

4 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

He's not really out of line with what he's saying. Just saying he was curious about TB in the past and if there was anything wrong that would be where it is.

I hate speculating on this stuff, but also remember the time period. Crean was getting booed at Assembly Hall and the team was terrible, then all of the sudden what seemed like unplanned Bryant and Thon Maker show up at the same game. I honestly don't think Crean was dirty, but always did think those visits were odd. 

[Naturalhoosier 15,478]

Any chance that this blows up the NCAA in its entirety (likely not, but it would be a fun convo to have)?  Time for a new governing body anyway IMO.  

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NCAA: There's corruption among our basketball institutions but we don't know what to do.

FBI: Hold my beer.

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The indictment doesn't publicly name the schools. The schools did not directly pay the players or families. It was Adidas who funneled money to the families to have their kids to sign with certain schools. Those schools did not break any federal laws but did break NCAA laws. All information from these federal investigations will be handed over to the NCAA for further use. The description of one of the schools in the reports mirror the University of Louisville to include coach Kenny Johnson and recruit Brian Bowen.

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[Class of '66 Old Fart 91,359]

12 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Dakich declaring that if Indiana is involved he will be an enemy. 

Suggesting if there's anything wrong with Indiana it would probably be with Thomas Bryant. Hope he's wrong.

I'd be more worried about Troy given how money hungry his mother appeared to bel

[Hoosierfan2017 25,041]

13 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Dakich declaring that if Indiana is involved he will be an enemy. 

Suggesting if there's anything wrong with Indiana it would probably be with Thomas Bryant. Hope he's wrong.

And here I thought he already was one 

[mark1981 1,443]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

And here I thought he already was one 

lol. NO KIDDIN

[Capt. Crimson 3,983]

Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

And here I thought he already was one 

Lol... he was just saying he truly loves the school and hates what cheating did to the program. He lost work over it and if it comes out it happened again, he will be really furious.

[Naturalhoosier 15,478]

1 minute ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I'd be more worried about Troy given how money hungry his mother appeared to bel

She's still laughing all the way to the bank.  Can't you hear that cackle?  

[Trish 14,482]

Now we're going to have NCAA players bending during the anthem because of social issues and because they don't get paid anymore. 

 

;)

[mdn82 26,344]

I hate speculating on this stuff, but also remember the time period. Crean was getting booed at Assembly Hall and the team was terrible, then all of the sudden what seemed like unplanned Bryant and Thon Maker show up at the same game. I honestly don't think Crean was dirty, but always did think those visits were odd. 

The main reason I don't think so is mom was wanting him to go to Syracuse hard. Crean recruited him to come in early. We threw out the option graduate in 2 months as opposed to 14. Then Syracuse got in trouble when it looked like a quick recruitment. Mama Bryant was always the one pushing Syracuse. Syracuse spoke directly with her. IU spoke directly with Thomas.


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[VO5 8,340]

This is going to get so much worse in the coming days and months. No university is safe

[Stuhoo 89,870]

 

 

Let me try to address the NCAA's (lack of) involvement:

1. To effectively investigate corruption the primary evidence that invariably will produce convictions is the recorded conversation between the bribe payer and the bribe recipient.
2. The NCAA, even if they desperately wanted to, has NO tools to record conversations. None.
3. THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART: When the FBI develops predication to record, and especially when they introduce an undercover agent, the existence of that technique, and of the investigation is completely closely held; to the case team ONLY.  WHen I say 'closely held', that means that other FBI agents in New York who were not on the case team had no access to case materials. The failure to do so could produce false exculpatories, and could present a significant safety issue for the FBI undercover agents.

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 91,359]

1 hour ago, mdn82 said:

Any players off of 1 Family AAU? That is a big one getting hit.


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http://www.prepcircuit.com/roster/show/3318538?subseason=394589

Link to roster of 1 Family (Adidas circuit).  The only name that I really recognized was Nassir Little who is still uncommitted.

[Trish 14,482]

212-384-2135

 

Tip number if you have information. 

I'm praying this opens up the floodgates. 

[VO5 8,340]

3 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

http://www.prepcircuit.com/roster/show/3318538?subseason=394589

Link to roster of 1 Family (Adidas circuit).  The only name that I really recognized was Nassir Little who is still uncommitted.

The schools listed as "warmer" for Little? Arizona and one UNC.