Welcome Coach Miller

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,246]

As a Cards fan I had a bad feeling that day. Hopefully the fact the Pukes fans that recognize the hire as great are correct. 

So did I. Happy for my mom,but not for Cardinal fans like me.

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,246]

I get what you are trying to say, but Pitino is not a good example of it in my opinion. He took over a Providence program that had not won more than 15 games in the 7 seasons before he arrived AFTER winning two conference titles in 4 seasons at literal Boston University (Another program that won more than 15 games in a season once in the 15 years before he got there!). Then he made a FF run in year two at Providence. Then he parlayed that  job into a NBA head job with included him winning a division title the year before he took the UK job. He was much more accomplished when taking his first big college job than others on your list. 

And Archie took over a Dayton program that had been to 4 NCAA Tournaments in 21 yrs.he led them to 4 straight Appearances in his 6 yrs reign with an E8 appearance.

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[SteelerHoosier 2,586]

32 minutes ago, iufaninillinois said:

And Archie took over a Dayton program that had been to 4 NCAA Tournaments in 21 yrs.he led them to 4 straight Appearances in his 6 yrs reign with an E8 appearance.

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And? He's still not as established as Pitino. That's all my comment was saying.  I'm not putting Coach down in any way. Just saying the comparisons to Ricky P getting hired at UK aren't accurate.  

[Miller'sTheMan 1,652]

18 minutes ago, SteelerHoosier said:

And? He's still not as established as Pitino. That's all my comment was saying.  I'm not putting Coach down in any way. Just saying the comparisons to Ricky P getting hired at UK aren't accurate.  

I'm saying their resume's are actually pretty close, except Pitino won one more game one year.

Yeah Pitino had success in the NBA, but the NBA is a completely different game than college so I don't know if success in the NBA would translate to college, or help "prove" yourself as a coach in the college game.

[LamarCheeks 19,178]

Was watching the Thunder-Spurs game when they did a between-quarters interview with Billy Donovan. After he finished, I played the tape backwards and in a hidden message, he said: "I really wanted to coach Indiana, but my wife decided she didn't want to move to Bloomington. She's the boss." 

[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

Yeah it's gonna be nice to have a respected guy on the sideline. Not only respected but feared


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[Trish 11,623]

13 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

Was watching the Thunder-Spurs game when they did a between-quarters interview with Billy Donovan. After he finished, I played the tape backwards and in a hidden message, he said: "I really wanted to coach Indiana, but my wife decided she didn't want to move to Bloomington. She's the boss." 

#BringBillyHome

[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

Thunder suck

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

I'll admit I was pretty amazed to read the accounts of RMK's talk.  Very complimentary about CAM being our new coach and he even wore a red sweater.  However, I did see that the program for the event only listed his tenure at Texas Tech.  Truly an enigma.

Knight is something. He shouldn't be so quick to leave IU off his resume---without IU he doesn't have all those wins--the perfect season--the national titles--the red sweater--the coach of the year awards---the chair throw, and he is not a legend, etc. Of course, he does things like omit IU just to get a rise out of the university and our fan base. But-- deep down he knows better. Just as much as Knight helped make IU basketball---IU basketball helped make Knight. That is why he is always in Indiana for paid speeches and book signings. I loved Knight as a coach and he is one of the best ever--but he knows where his bread got buttered. Without IU he may have ended up as a bitter Walmart greeter and if he keeps it up he still might! Lol.


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[ElectricBoogaloo 4,307]

For those of us who loved Crean graduating players, Miller did the same at Dayton:

 

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,044]

2 big donors weigh on on Miller's hire.  Love this quote from Bart Kaufman:   “I don’t give a pig about press conferences,” Kaufman said. “I want him to win in the Big Ten.”

http://www.idsnews.com/article/2017/04/two-significant-iu-donors-give-positive-reviews-on-hiring-of-archie-miller

[mdn82 25,510]

Ha, Kaufman wanted a name coach but knew McRobbie wouldn't spend $8 million.


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[Trish 11,623]

Love the comment about Houston Baptist. Crean should be embarrassed by our non conference schedule. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,508]

Kaufman doesn't play. Lol


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[Dalton26 16,892]

lol gotta love Kaufman, I honestly couldnt give a crap less what Skjodt thinks about anything IU related.

[Brass Cannon 24,872]

See heres my problem, if we aren't willing to pay to be the best we won't be.  Glass talked about how resources wouldn't be an issue then we went and got a coach for about what we were paying before.  Our recruiting was already a big spender.  

The Glass press conference was just very poorly done and deceptive.  

[indy317219 97]

See heres my problem, if we aren't willing to pay to be the best we won't be.  Glass talked about how resources wouldn't be an issue then we went and got a coach for about what we were paying before.  Our recruiting was already a big spender.  

The Glass press conference was just very poorly done and deceptive.  

Not every model starts with top of pay scale. Mitigating risk plays a part and if the risk pays off, you have room to move Archie into the next tier of pay grades and if it's a home run, he gets the elite pay. Even if it was Donavan, the risk was always- does he leave for the next shiny opportunity. Risk can come in many shapes and sizes and resources don't always correlate to $$$

[Brass Cannon 24,872]

1 minute ago, indy317219 said:

Not every model starts with top of pay scale. Mitigating risk plays a part and if the risk pays off, you have room to move Archie into the next tier of pay grades and if it's a home run, he gets the elite pay. Even if it was Donavan, the risk was always- does he leave for the next shiny opportunity. Risk can come in many shapes and sizes and resources don't always correlate to $$$

You can't let the fear that your good people will leave be a reason to not hire the best people.  

And yes there was the risk that Donovan could leave us.  Miller has the same risk.  Its a risk for whoever you hire.  Its not like Miller is an indentured servant or something.  

Care to tell me what resources a college Bball program gets that aren't tied to money in some way.  The only one I could think of is lessening academic standards to some degrees.  

 

[Hoosierfan2017 21,584]

18 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

See heres my problem, if we aren't willing to pay to be the best we won't be.  Glass talked about how resources wouldn't be an issue then we went and got a coach for about what we were paying before.  Our recruiting was already a big spender.  

The Glass press conference was just very poorly done and deceptive.  

He could have meant that resources aren't an issue in other regards. Fred was able to upgrade his coach without having to spend more money. Since he only had to pay Archie $3 million he has a lot of money left over that he can use on recruiting, assistant coaches, etc. 

[indy317219 97]

You can't let the fear that your good people will leave be a reason to not hire the best people.  
And yes there was the risk that Donovan could leave us.  Miller has the same risk.  Its a risk for whoever you hire.  Its not like Miller is an indentured servant or something.  
Care to tell me what resources a college Bball program gets that aren't tied to money in some way.  The only one I could think of is lessening academic standards to some degrees.  
 

Yes and no in regards to a coach potentially leaving. Some have more inclination than others- Donavan appears to be indecisive in that regard. Resources can mean facilities that come from donors. It can mean availability and not only on court but off court, it can mean mentoring kids, it can mean opportunities post graduation. While all might equate to a dollar figure they aren't always tangible in that regard. Lastly, as stated and as most perceived that to mean it wasn't going to be about money- if you can get a coach for 3.25 as opposed to 8-all things being equal- you take the 3.25 all day. We weren't in the room, don't know the conversations nor the sincere candidates- so we cannot speculate what money was and was not available.