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[Hoosierfan2017 25,176]

1 hour ago, Hoosier Guy said:

Yep I'm way past Donovan. Honestly, the more I think about it, the more that I think Archie is a better get than Donovan. One, Archie is young and has time on his side. Two, being from the Midwest, he gets IU. And three, potential through the roof


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Another thing is Billy always would've felt like a hired gun. I think he would've had a lot of success here but he wouldn't have been "ours" in a sense. With Archie it's cool because he has the opportunity to grow with the program. He could be here 25-30 years and become synonymous with Indiana basketball like Bob Knight was back in the day. That's something I really hope to see happen. 

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I love Archie's Indiana-first recruiting philosophy but he has a lot of other recruiting connections he brings to the table and not just in the Midwest from his Dayton and Ohio State days--but also in the East from his NC State assistant days and in the West from his Arizona assistant days. I can't wait to see who he brings in to help the program as I predict we will continue to recruit nationwide with a special emphasis on Indiana kids.


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[Hoosier Guy 8,333]

Another thing is Billy always would've felt like a hired gun. I think he would've had a lot of success here but he wouldn't have been "ours" in a sense. With Archie it's cool because he has the opportunity to grow with the program. He could be here 25-30 years and become synonymous with Indiana basketball like Bob Knight was back in the day. That's something I really hope to see happen. 

Yeah Archie is gonna be here for quite some time. He understands IU and what to do to make them successful. That's something IU hasn't had since Knight. Gonna be great


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[Hoosier Guy 8,333]

I sound like a broken record with this technology crap, but why doesn't the app show notifications?


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[FortWayneHoosier 6,958]

I sound like a broken record with this technology crap, but why doesn't the app show notifications?


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If you are on iPhone, it's because the new update hasn't kicked in yet. Should be any day now


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[HoosierTrav 8,339]

Read on Twitter that Archie has an open door policy with high school and AAU coaches......yeah....he's going to kill it here.

[Brass Cannon 25,578]

1 minute ago, HoosierTrav said:

Read on Twitter that Archie has an open door policy with high school and AAU coaches......yeah....he's going to kill it here.

Ok see I just kind of assumed this was common sense for a college coach. 

[HoosierTrav 8,339]

Just throwing this out there bc I keep forgetting to mention it.......I'm a Cubs fan and I remember how I felt after they announced Theo Epstein as General Manager. It was a feeling of unwavering and effortless trust...... I have the exact same feeling now that I had then.

[Brass Cannon 25,578]

24 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

Just throwing this out there bc I keep forgetting to mention it.......I'm a Cubs fan and I remember how I felt after they announced Theo Epstein as General Manager. It was a feeling of unwavering and effortless trust...... I have the exact same feeling now that I had then.

As a Cards fan I had a bad feeling that day. Hopefully the fact the Pukes fans that recognize the hire as great are correct. 

[Miller'sTheMan 1,652]

Also I don't know if this has been talked about, but John Groce would be a great assistant coach here. Could really help on the recruiting side of things and has Indiana ties.

[Scooter D 928]

5 hours ago, Miller'sTheMan said:

Also I don't know if this has been talked about, but John Groce would be a great assistant coach here. Could really help on the recruiting side of things and has Indiana ties.

Wait...are we talking about the same John Groce that just got fired from Illinois?  

If so, I understand it, he is from Muncie and Taylor Univ, but he has been a HC for almost 10 years now...what makes you think that he would be willing to take a step back?

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8 minutes ago, Scooter D said:

Wait...are about the same John Groce that just got fired from Illinois?  

If so, I understand it, he is from Muncie and Taylor Univ, but he has been a HC for almost 10 years now...what makes you think that he would be willing to take a step back?

He got fired. You usually have to take a step back when that happens. If he wants to stay at a big program, an assistant job makes sense. If you learn under a successful coach, people are more willing to give you another chance.

[Trish 14,538]

7 minutes ago, Scooter D said:

Wait...are about the same John Groce that just got fired from Illinois?  

If so, I understand it, he is from Muncie and Taylor Univ, but he has been a HC for almost 10 years now...what makes you think that he would be willing to take a step back?

I'd say a head coach position at UI to a lead assistant position at Indiana is a slight move up. He might even earn himself up to 800-1.2 million a year I'd say here. 

[Scooter D 928]

7 hours ago, HoosierTrav said:

Just throwing this out there bc I keep forgetting to mention it.......I'm a Cubs fan and I remember how I felt after they announced Theo Epstein as General Manager. It was a feeling of unwavering and effortless trust...... I have the exact same feeling now that I had then.

You are talking about the Theo Epstein that helped lead the Red Sox to two WS titles, right?  

While evidently, I am one of the delusional and am still a bit disappointed by the hire, let's keep some perspective here...hiring Donovan (2 NC, 4 FF, 6 SEC regular season titles and 4 SEC tournament titles) would have been a fair comparison to Epstein.  Miller...is much more of an unknown...yes he has has some success in the A10, which is a great conference (I used to have season tickets at Temple when they were still an A10 school), but we don't know what he is capable of doing on the big stage.  

[Miller'sTheMan 1,652]

8 minutes ago, Scooter D said:

Wait...are about the same John Groce that just got fired from Illinois?  

If so, I understand it, he is from Muncie and Taylor Univ, but he has been a HC for almost 10 years now...what makes you think that he would be willing to take a step back?

I don't know if he would be, but I know he and Archie have ties (coached at Ohio State together) with one another so it wouldn't surprise me if they'd at least talk about it.

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8 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

Ok see I just kind of assumed this was common sense for a college coach. 

I'll abstain from comment. Just too easy... 

[Scooter D 928]

1 hour ago, bigrod said:

He got fired. You usually have to take a step back when that happens. If he wants to stay at a big program, an assistant jon makes sense. If you learn under a successful coach, people are more willing to give you another chance.

 

1 hour ago, Miller'sTheMan said:

I don't know if he would be, but I know he and Archie have ties (coached at Ohio State together) with one another so it wouldn't surprise me if they'd at least talk about it.

Yes...I understand that he got fired...I would think that a HC job at a smaller school, as he did have some success at Ohio, would make more sense.

Also, I think that it would be difficult for him, since they were both assistants at OSU, to work under a friend.  

[hoosierbannerd 3,542]

I don't know about his ties with high school/AAU but I think as far as another X and O guy, you couldn't go wrong with Tonagel. I think he has a bright future and some successful time in the Indiana program would be a great lauching point to a D1 gig for him. If you aren't familiar with him, dude has impressive numbers as a coach with Ind. Wes. and played college ball at Valpo I believe.

[Scooter D 928]

8 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I'd say a head coach position at UI to a lead assistant position at Indiana is a slight move up. He might even earn himself up to 800-1.2 million a year I'd say here. 

A step back like that is a desperate move (as it is with most jobs/professions)...I doubt that Groce is that desperate.  

[Trish 14,538]

2 minutes ago, Scooter D said:

A step back like that is a desperate move (as it is with most jobs/professions)...I doubt that Groce is that desperate.  

He and Archie worked together before. From Indiana has strong connections. Archie and Groce together may be the strongest coaching combination in the Big Ten.