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Talk can absolutely get loud enough that people pull out of negotiations.  Everyone has said Donovan wants to finish the season with the Thunder.  He doesn't want a circus following the rest of the season because of him.  If IU proves they can't keep ahold of leaks well enough to provide that from happening and this starts blowing up in his face, saying nevermind isn't that crazy.

Let's not forget he backed out from Orlando, not because of leaks just saying it can happen and even further in the process.

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1 minute ago, biteoftheapple said:

Why does it need a reaction? Anyone that has google can find this, I did, and I didnt feel a need to pist on the board.

Because it's an interesting tidbit. So is Donovan still with CSE I couldn't find ithat out?

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2 minutes ago, Sknits nad said:

Talk can absolutely get loud enough that people pull out of negotiations.  Everyone has said Donovan wants to finish the season with the Thunder.  He doesn't want a circus following the rest of the season because of him.  If IU proves they can't keep ahold of leaks well enough to provide that from happening and this starts blowing up in his face, saying nevermind isn't that crazy.

Let's not forget he backed out from Orlando, not because of leaks just saying it can happen and even further in the process.

Do we really want a theoretical coach so wimpy and uncommitted that he would let the reality of internet chatter scare him off? Lol. Hell no. The next coach better want this job a lot more than that, or he's the wrong dude and will never survive in Btown anyway.

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8 minutes ago, tablegrapes said:

Do we really want a theoretical coach so wimpy and uncommitted that he would let the reality of internet chatter scare him off? Lol. Hell no. The next coach better want this job a lot more than that, or he's the wrong dude and will never survive in Btown anyway.

This is a fun thought, but it's not like he is unemployed.  He has a good job making 6 mill and his intent is to not bail on the Thunder mid season.  If he can't do that without destroying their season with a media circus then what is the point.

I agree, if he really wants to coach at IU it is just noise but let's not act like leaks haven't screwed up deals before.

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3 minutes ago, Sknits nad said:

This is a fun thought, but it's not like he is unemployed.  He has a good job making 6 mill and his intent is to not bail on the Thunder mid season.  If he can't do that without destroying their season with a media circus then what is the point.

I agree, if he really wants to coach at IU it is just noise but let's not act like leaks haven't screwed up deals before.

It's 2017. Message boards, Twitter, Instagram ... it's everywhere. The White House can't control leaks -- how is a university administration supposed to? Any coach who doesn't understand that this is the new reality, and deal with it accordingly, isn't being rational. Billy Donovan coaches grown up men in a grown up game that is strictly business. Those guys don't give a crap who is coaching them -- they're just cashing huge checks. Nothing that leaks or doesn't leak is going to change their inevitable fate in the playoffs one bit.

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They aren't his guys if Donovan already IDed and recruited them. We literally have watched mike Davis walk in and have success a couple years after a legend. You can pretend these facts don't exist but right now White is still benefiting from his predecessor. 

I acknowledged that Robinson and Hill were starters and good players. Chiozza is a good guard off the bench. Allen is a really good player and Stone barely plays and redshirted last year. He recruited Allen at LTU. Yes Billy ID'd them but you arent giving Mike any credit for getting them back when they were both open for awhile. You act like they had to come back to Florida. They werent five star kids either and regardless Billy never coached them a single day so them developing even the guys BD did give him werent that great in their time w them. Development is one of the biggest factors in programs being good just dont get how you think Mike White had nothing to do with it? I could use a bunch of examples but I really am kinda annoyed by this already as I am sure everyone on here is as well.

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2 minutes ago, tablegrapes said:

It's 2017. Message boards, Twitter, Instagram ... it's everywhere. The White House can't control leaks -- how is a university administration supposed to? Any coach who doesn't understand that this is the new reality, and deal with it accordingly, isn't being rational. Billy Donovan coaches grown up men in a grown up game that is strictly business. Those guys don't give a crap who is coaching them -- they're just cashing huge checks. Nothing that leaks or doesn't leak is going to change their inevitable fate in the playoffs one bit.

They were able to control leaks about Crean getting fired...

True they are destined to be squashed by the spurs or warriors.

All I am saying is leaks never help anything (besides our sanity).  If Donovan wants to be here they will be a non factor, if he is waffling then who knows.

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5 minutes ago, Sknits nad said:

They were able to control leaks about Crean getting fired...

True they are destined to be squashed by the spurs or warriors.

All I am saying is leaks never help anything (besides our sanity).  If Donovan wants to be here they will be a non factor, if he is waffling then who knows.

Still disagree that even leaks have any impact.  All he has to say is "I have no idea where that rumor came from and I will no longer address it."

But if a coach is "waffling" about whether to come to Indiana or not, he shouldn't come.

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2 minutes ago, Dizz said:

Still disagree that even leaks have any impact.  All he has to say is "I have no idea where that rumor came from and I will no longer address it."

But if a coach is "waffling" about whether to come to Indiana or not, he shouldn't come.

I could not agree with both statements more.  Well said.

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I have been as anti Alford as anybody but a lot of people seem to want him. Even media guys like Greg Raekstraw, Kent Sterling and Zach Osterman who know college basketball and IU like Alford as the hire (I know 2 of these 3 guys personally and really respect them). I also know people dislike Dakich but he definitely in my mind has IU's best interest at heart and he has championed Alford. All these twitter polls (unscientific) seem to have Alford constantly in the lead.

I still don't want Alford but unlike some of you I am willing to give him a chance. The Pierre Pierce thing worries me and he needs to answer about that but if we can get by that he deserves a chance.

Sometime I think these message boards do not represent the true feeling of the mood of IU fans (if you read them you think Alford is the Grinch but elsewhere he is well liked). 

As I have said the farther Alford goes in the tourney the better because either UCLA will fight hard to keep him if we wins a national championship or a lot of IU fans will feel better about the hire if we still get him (I know I will feel better about the hire if he's got a National Championship or Final Four on the resume).

 

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9 minutes ago, Dizz said:

Still disagree that even leaks have any impact.  All he has to say is "I have no idea where that rumor came from and I will no longer address it."

But if a coach is "waffling" about whether to come to Indiana or not, he shouldn't come.

I'd still take Donovan who waffled over Alford who didn't.

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http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/03/22/coaching-search-profile-mike-white/

For those who wanna know more about Mike White. Seemed to do alright before Florida too. Top 35 defense there as well. This guy is a rising star. I have also been seeing Chris Mack on A LOT of list as well lately on twitter. I feel like we have our guy and he is either still in the tourney or possibly NBA. We will see soon enough.

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1 minute ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/03/22/coaching-search-profile-mike-white/

For those who wanna know more about Mike White. Seemed to do alright before Florida too. Top 35 defense there as well. This guy is a rising star. I have also been seeing Chris Mack on A LOT of list as well lately on twitter. I feel like we have our guy and he is either still in the tourney or possibly NBA. We will see soon enough.

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I agree.  I feel like if it was one of the coaches already bounced from the tourney we would have had an announcement by now.  

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Probably not Glass particularly but I guarantee you someone gets on this boards to see whats going. Probably not everyday but a lot of media that are involved with IU started off as forum guys. Peegs, Rabjohns, Kent Sterling, McCarthy and I am sure there is a few more I am missing. As easy as it is to download an app and take 10 minutes to skim I guarantee you the news gets related one way or another. Specially with the guys stated above are posting. Glass mentioned reading stuff from fans as well and emails so. Like I said maybe not personally but I would not say there is no chance they do.

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I know the athletic department gets on every site. But it isn't going to make a difference when they offer a coach and whether or not he takes the job.


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