Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[Dalton26]

Happy reading :)
 
http://hoopshype.com/2017/05/08/an-inside-look-at-the-stressful-chaotic-lives-of-nba-agents/

I've always known there was a lot more to being an agent, but wow there's even more to it than I thought. Sounds like a crazy life, and more power to them for being able to do it.

[Aaron]

12 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I read Rojo is seriously considering the JBJ route. Play and develop in the D league. This notion is sickening to me to be honest. Might as well recruit like Duke and Kentucky because it seems no one wants the glory of playing college basketball anymore.

 

Those D league games are pathetic. Troy and Yogi making it to the league is a testament to them. But it is a disservice to other players thinking they will have the same successes.

 

I understand the Euro leagues for financial purposes but that money is always there.

 

Our days of college basketball are fading and the one and done rule is helping to kill it.

 

Signed,

 

A very frustrated college basketball fan

 

 

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Can you please provide this link? I have searched the whole internet and cannot find an article saying anything of this sort? Are you referencing anonymous posters on message boards because I am incredibly skeptical of these 'sources' even the ones who are known to be 'credible'? I am not totally doubting you but just curious where you read this?  

[Tom White]

5 hours ago, goonaha said:

Save the hysterics for when a decision is actually made. No point in declaring college basketball dead because a kid left a year early instead of playing for a coach he doesn't know.

Probably good advice, but I prefer starting hysterics early and avoiding the crowded rush. Why wait until the last minute when the hysterics-sphere will be so crowded. No, I prefer having some elbow room.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

My college basketball is dying take is not tied to Rojo's decision at all.

I personally think he is coming back. The "source" is the guy who had it out with Rabjohns regarding Blackmon signing an agent. I don't even care about Rojo's decision much. Our results will be similar with or without him.

THE FACT that Rojo and others like him who have little to no shot at the NBA are leaving college basketball (or even considering) for DLeague, etc, is all the indication I need to know that College Basketball as we know it is dying. Unless changes are made we may actually be watching student athletes playing college basketball again.

Rojo is Indiana's version, so I use his example initially but my stance is formulated by national college basketball stories. Peoples opinions of college basketball aren't the same as it used to be.


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[Aaron]

13 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

My college basketball is dying take is not tied to Rojo's decision at all.

I personally think he is coming back. The "source" is the guy who had it out with Rabjohns regarding Blackmon signing an agent. I don't even care about Rojo's decision much. Our results will be similar with or without him.

THE FACT that Rojo and others like him who have little to no shot at the NBA are leaving college basketball (or even considering) for DLeague, etc, is all the indication I need to know that College Basketball as we know it is dying. Unless changes are made we may actually be watching student athletes playing college basketball again.

Rojo is Indiana's version, so I use his example initially but my stance is formulated by national college basketball stories. Peoples opinions of college basketball aren't the same as it used to be.


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What guy 'had it out' with Rabjohns? I did not see that and I follow him on twitter as well as his work unless it was on his premium board which I am not a part of.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

What guy 'had it out' with Rabjohns? I did not see that and I follow him on twitter as well as his work unless it was on his premium board which I am not a part of.

Had it out with him on twitter. Brennan Champion. He's puffing his chest.


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[Aaron]

16 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Had it out with him on twitter. Brennan Champion. He's puffing his chest.


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That guy seems to be an average Joe who is just throwing things out there (under 400 followers and no info tying him to any news organization) from everything I am reading from his twitter posts. He makes Albers look good with his reporting and that is saying something.

I actually agree with Brennan that what Rabjohns did with the JBJ information was a bit careless. It should of been clear to him the family was not telling the truth and Rabjohns should not of reported what they said. It's a tough choice and issue but clearly Rabjohns did not handle this well.

With that said I believe nothing this Brennan Champion guy says and would not take anything he says as remotely fact or credible. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

That guy seems to be an average Joe who is just throwing things out there (under 400 followers and no info tying him to any news organization) from everything I am reading from his twitter posts. He makes Albers look good with his reporting and that is saying something.
I actually agree with Brennan that what Rabjohns did with the JBJ information was a bit careless. It should of been clear to him the family was not telling the truth and Rabjohns should not of reported what they said. It's a tough choice and issue but clearly Rabjohns did not handle this well.
With that said I believe nothing this Brennan Champion guy says and would not take anything he says as remotely fact or credible. 

I researched the guy. I know it's just a guy who maybe knows someone or doesn't. Could have some connection to the players. Maybe not. I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Like I say, Rojo's decision doesn't affect me one way or another. If he wants to leave, he probably should.

My "take" is a national take on the college basketball landscape. Rojo is just a tiny piece of it all.


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[drewheck]

That guy seems to be an average Joe who is just throwing things out there (under 400 followers and no info tying him to any news organization) from everything I am reading from his twitter posts. He makes Albers look good with his reporting and that is saying something.
I actually agree with Brennan that what Rabjohns did with the JBJ information was a bit careless. It should of been clear to him the family was not telling the truth and Rabjohns should not of reported what they said. It's a tough choice and issue but clearly Rabjohns did not handle this well.
With that said I believe nothing this Brennan Champion guy says and would not take anything he says as remotely fact or credible. 

He seems like an average guy but hes been right twice now in the last 3 weeks on iubb leads i take him with a grain of salt but he has been right

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[Aaron]

17 minutes ago, drewheck said:

He seems like an average guy but hes been right twice now in the last 3 weeks on iubb leads i take him with a grain of salt but he has been right

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Or he was just throwing things at the wall and this happened to stick with Blackmon and Bryant? His theory on Johnson has yet to be proven. He has a 50/50 chance of being right on these no matter what so it doesn't mean he didn't write something out of the blue for attention and happened to be right.

[recker222000]

Or he was just throwing things at the wall and this happened to stick with Blackmon and Bryant? His theory on Johnson has yet to be proven. He has a 50/50 chance of being right on these no matter what so it doesn't mean he didn't write something out of the blue for attention and happened to be right.

Exactly. I would be totally 100% also so far on the three decisions but i did not tweet it out. That guy is not connected. Id say 60/40 on rojo leaving imo.

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[drewheck]

Or he was just throwing things at the wall and this happened to stick with Blackmon and Bryant? His theory on Johnson has yet to be proven. He has a 50/50 chance of being right on these no matter what so it doesn't mean he didn't write something out of the blue for attention and happened to be right.

I agree but the two things hes got called out on he was right i dont take anyones word on twitter as gospel but he has been right where the "insiders" have mocked him

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

What is college basketball as you knew it? Like CBB 20 years ago? It has been this way for a decade. CBB is like a course for a profession(NBA). You either pass(NBA, DL or international) or fail and do something else.


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College basketball has been changing always but especially since the one and done rule was instituted. It is now jumping to the next level of change where kids are leaving some prestigious programs for DLeague or other before their time is up.

Speaking of which, where is Goodluck Okonboh these days? ( I honestly don't know)

The game today is much different than 15 years ago. I'm not talking about on the court. It's the landscape of recruiting, agents, pro options, etc. To me, the college game is slowly losing its foothold of what it had always been.



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[Lebowski]

Yeah, I'm fine with these guys "leaving early" to earn a paycheck at a skill that typically has a very short shelf life.  The NCAA has a lot to blame for the trend.  If you don't like it, contact the NCAA and let them know.  Just my opinion.  

Best of luck to all IU players in the NBA draft!  Come back during the off season and get your degree.

[RaceToTheTop]

I wouldn't understand the logic in RoJo leaving.  He wouldn't even be a D-league starter at this point....certainly not any kind of featured player.  His route through the D League to the NBA would be INCREDIBLY rough and long -- not to mention the fact that it in all liklihood wouldn't happen. If he is thinking there is NBA in his future (which, while I love him, I don't), the quickest route is to put up a good year where he is the featured scorer at IU.  If he is looking overseas, that might be a different answer....but even then, getting a guaranteed money overseas is certainly easier to get coming off a better year than he had last year.

[Hoosier Guy]

4 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

My college basketball is dying take is not tied to Rojo's decision at all.

I personally think he is coming back. The "source" is the guy who had it out with Rabjohns regarding Blackmon signing an agent. I don't even care about Rojo's decision much. Our results will be similar with or without him.

THE FACT that Rojo and others like him who have little to no shot at the NBA are leaving college basketball (or even considering) for DLeague, etc, is all the indication I need to know that College Basketball as we know it is dying. Unless changes are made we may actually be watching student athletes playing college basketball again.

Rojo is Indiana's version, so I use his example initially but my stance is formulated by national college basketball stories. Peoples opinions of college basketball aren't the same as it used to be.


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I get what you mean man. But this is what college basketball is in this day and age. The goal is to get to the NBA as quick as possible

[recker222000]

I get what you mean man. But this is what college basketball is in this day and age. The goal is to get to the NBA as quick as possible

You got it and once they get the nba in their head good luck getting them to come back. I think he may be gone but it is what it is.

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[recker222000]

College basketball has been changing always but especially since the one and done rule was instituted. It is now jumping to the next level of change where kids are leaving some prestigious programs for DLeague or other before their time is up.

Speaking of which, where is Goodluck Okonboh these days? ( I honestly don't know)

The game today is much different than 15 years ago. I'm not talking about on the court. It's the landscape of recruiting, agents, pro options, etc. To me, the college game is slowly losing its foothold of what it had always been.



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Its a sad state of affairs.

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[cthomas]

High school basketball is to AAU as college basketball is to the NBA. The game and the priorities are changing. Can't do anything about it. The college game is becoming similar to the NBA from a style and rules standpoint and probably will eventually be the same. Whether I like it or not makes no difference, it's going to happen anyway. If I dislike the product enough I'll stop watching. In the meantime, I'll continue to watch and support Coach Miller, who I think will be terrific, and the Hoosiers.

[SlamaJamaSisley]

A good listen ...

http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/05/09/potb-175-blackmons-decision-and-more-with-mike-decourcy/