Uspshoosier Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2017/04/25/the-15-most-important-nba-draft-testing-the-water-decisions/IU guys number 12 Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Crimson and Cream and Hutch89 2 Quote
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Popular Post Stromboli Posted April 25, 2017 Popular Post Posted April 25, 2017 RoJo is coming back, presumably. JBJ, I really have no idea. I really like him, and almost hope that he gets his best opportunity to play professionally, be it NBA, D league, or overseas. I don't think anyone else can match his production (duh), but I wouldn't hate to see some of the young guns get some time. Remember, CuJo is one smooth operator out there, and was a very high recruit. He lost his mojo after Kansas, but there's some untapped potential there. I really hope that he plans on coming back, because I could see him having a great career at IU still. Obviously RoJo can play SG well, too, and we'd all like to see AD headfake his way to the hoop a couple times. So while I'd miss JBJ, I don't think losing him would be disastrous for the team. Thomas is a different story. He wants to play at the next level, and I'm assuming that he missed the banquet and other team events because he is off training with some specialist for the pre-draft stuff. Huge chance we lose him, and he will leave a huge hole on the roster. Given CAM's full court press to keep all three recruits, I think the only logical conclusion is that TB and JBJ have indicated that they intend to leave. Remember, prior to Clifton reaffirming his commitment, he said he just wanted to talk with Archie to make sure Archie didn't intend to red-shirt him. We all recognize that even a redshirt takes a scholly, but given the subsequent affirmation of the commitment, Archie must have informed Clifton that there's a place on the team for Clifton next year. Using the best information available now, that's my guess. On one hand, we are losing all of our current stars. On the other hand, no one is leaving the team for a different NCAA team. And the fan in me sees a team with no stars on it, and a new coach, with a decently balanced roster full of guys that want to play together. And this is certainly not a team bereft of talent, either. A top seven of Deron, Juwan, Collin, RoJo, Newkirk, Justin Smith, and whichever guard emerges will be good enough, and better than any roster Archie has had before. GloryDays, Jketch, ThompsonHoosier and 8 others 11 Quote
JaybobHoosier Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 RoJo is coming back, presumably. JBJ, I really have no idea. I really like him, and almost hope that he gets his best opportunity to play professionally, be it NBA, D league, or overseas. I don't think anyone else can match his production (duh), but I wouldn't hate to see some of the young guns get some time. Remember, CuJo is one smooth operator out there, and was a very high recruit. He lost his mojo after Kansas, but there's some untapped potential there. I really hope that he plans on coming back, because I could see him having a great career at IU still. Obviously RoJo can play SG well, too, and we'd all like to see AD headfake his way to the hoop a couple times. So while I'd miss JBJ, I don't think losing him would be disastrous for the team. Thomas is a different story. He wants to play at the next level, and I'm assuming that he missed the banquet and other team events because he is off training with some specialist for the pre-draft stuff. Huge chance we lose him, and he will leave a huge hole on the roster. Given CAM's full court press to keep all three recruits, I think the only logical conclusion is that TB and JBJ have indicated that they intend to leave. Remember, prior to Clifton reaffirming his commitment, he said he just wanted to talk with Archie to make sure Archie didn't intend to red-shirt him. We all recognize that even a redshirt takes a scholly, but given the subsequent affirmation of the commitment, Archie must have informed Clifton that there's a place on the team for Clifton next year. Using the best information available now, that's my guess. On one hand, we are losing all of our current stars. On the other hand, no one is leaving the team for a different NCAA team. And the fan in me sees a team with no stars on it, and a new coach, with a decently balanced roster full of guys that want to play together. And this is certainly not a team bereft of talent, either. A top seven of Deron, Juwan, Collin, RoJo, Newkirk, Justin Smith, and whichever guard emerges will be good enough, and better than any roster Archie has had before. Very well put. Let's not forget the flashes both Jones and Green displayed last season. Both will be stars, and without JBJ, we are in really good shape with what we bring back in 4 guards (Green, Jones, Newkirk, and presumably RoJo). Morgan, Hartman, and Smith will be a good trio at the 3/4 spot, with RoJo able to fill in at the 3 if needed because of his defense. The main hole is depth at he 5 spot. Davis is a very talented big man, but can't play every second along with with being foul prone. I have a lot of faith next season, but also understand there will be some limitations. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Hoosierfan2017 1 Quote
LamarCheeks Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 14 minutes ago, Stromboli said: RoJo is coming back, presumably. JBJ, I really have no idea. I really like him, and almost hope that he gets his best opportunity to play professionally, be it NBA, D league, or overseas. I don't think anyone else can match his production (duh), but I wouldn't hate to see some of the young guns get some time. Remember, CuJo is one smooth operator out there, and was a very high recruit. He lost his mojo after Kansas, but there's some untapped potential there. I really hope that he plans on coming back, because I could see him having a great career at IU still. Obviously RoJo can play SG well, too, and we'd all like to see AD headfake his way to the hoop a couple times. So while I'd miss JBJ, I don't think losing him would be disastrous for the team. Thomas is a different story. He wants to play at the next level, and I'm assuming that he missed the banquet and other team events because he is off training with some specialist for the pre-draft stuff. Huge chance we lose him, and he will leave a huge hole on the roster. Given CAM's full court press to keep all three recruits, I think the only logical conclusion is that TB and JBJ have indicated that they intend to leave. Remember, prior to Clifton reaffirming his commitment, he said he just wanted to talk with Archie to make sure Archie didn't intend to red-shirt him. We all recognize that even a redshirt takes a scholly, but given the subsequent affirmation of the commitment, Archie must have informed Clifton that there's a place on the team for Clifton next year. Using the best information available now, that's my guess. On one hand, we are losing all of our current stars. On the other hand, no one is leaving the team for a different NCAA team. And the fan in me sees a team with no stars on it, and a new coach, with a decently balanced roster full of guys that want to play together. And this is certainly not a team bereft of talent, either. A top seven of Deron, Juwan, Collin, RoJo, Newkirk, Justin Smith, and whichever guard emerges will be good enough, and better than any roster Archie has had before. I don't disagree. I've thought all along that JBJ and TB likely would leave. And I think Archie had some indication of that. Otherwise, he could've just let any of the three signees out of their LOIs. I don't think he wants to get his IU career started by telling two players they'd have to give up their scholarships, so he had to have a really, really good idea of what would happen. As far as losing stars -- those stars got us to 18-16, 7-11 last season. So I say let's get the roster set, and let's get going on 2017-18. Archie's still got some good material to work with and almost certainly can do better than 18-16 and 7-11. Tom White 1 Quote
Hovadipo Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 Throwback to that one time people got mad at Jimmy for celebrating a buzzer beater. Hope he comes back. https://instagram.com/p/BTTv_wKFcxX/ Stromboli, CR3AMnCR1MS0N, Crimson and Cream and 1 other 4 Quote
Popular Post Stuhoo Posted April 25, 2017 Popular Post Posted April 25, 2017 Apparently Alex Bozich from Inside the Hall had a sit-down with Archie and the assistants today. No article yet, but kudos to Alex for some serious meat in his tweets: Alex Bozich @insidethehall Miller: "I think taking care of the basketball is a huge thing. Not just by your point guard or perimeter, everyone has to value the ball." Alex Bozich @insidethehall Miller also said that Collin Hartman will be in Bloomington all summer: "Everything I was told about Collin is true." #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall More from Archie Miller on Juwan Morgan: "He fits how we play." #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall One of the main reasons Flint wanted to get back into coaching: "The kids give you energy. I missed that last year." #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall 2m2 minutes ago One thing Flint and John Calipari agree on when it comes to building a team: "Without a post presence, you're a little bit of a fraud." Alex Bozich @insidethehall 2m2 minutes ago Keys to winning, according to Flint: Defense, rebounding and taking care of the ball. #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall 3m3 minutes ago Bruiser Flint says he came to Indiana because of Archie Miller and his belief that Miller will get things done in Bloomington. #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall 4m4 minutes ago Schilling on John Calipari, who he worked for at UMass and Memphis as well as New Jersey: "Not a more loyal guy in the business." #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall 5m5 minutes ago Schilling said Arizona coach Sean Miller reached out to him to gauge interest in coming to work with Archie and things went from there. Alex Bozich @insidethehall 5m5 minutes ago Ed Schilling on the chance to come back to the state: "It's been terrific. This is home for me." #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall 6m6 minutes ago Miller said that if all of IU's perimeter guys are back, the backcourt should be talented and deep. #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall 7m7 minutes ago Tom Ostrom said one takeaway from visiting coaches around the state is that most of them want IU to do well. #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall 8m8 minutes ago In terms of future scheduling, Miller mentioned finding "perfect fits" the key. Also said IU needs to be on marquee stage. #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall 9m9 minutes ago Miller said he doesn't anticipate Indiana's scholarship situation being a big challenge. Expects situation to sort itself out. #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall 11m11 minutes ago Miller said one of the keys with De'Ron Davis is getting his body and motor right. "He has great hands and feet." #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall 13m13 minutes ago Miller said Juwan Morgan "has a chance to be a special player" and is a "breakout candidate." #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall 13m13 minutes ago Miller called James Blackmon Jr. "the best shooter I've been around." Also said Robert Johnson has shot it well this spring. #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall 14m14 minutes ago Miller said Devonte Green reminds him of some guys he coached at Dayton in that he's physical and can get the ball to the rim. #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall 14m14 minutes ago Miller said De'Ron Davis should be one of the most improved players in college basketball next season. Will stay in Bloomington all summer. Alex Bozich @insidethehall 15m15 minutes ago Archie Miller said Collin Hartman has been available for workouts this spring, but they've kept him away from contact. #iubb Alex Bozich @insidethehall 16m16 minutes ago Had a chance to meet with Archie Miller, Tom Ostrom, Ed Schilling and Brusier Flint today. A few takeaways to come ... JaybobHoosier, GloryDays, moyemayhem and 9 others 12 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 I don't disagree. I've thought all along that JBJ and TB likely would leave. And I think Archie had some indication of that. Otherwise, he could've just let any of the three signees out of their LOIs. I don't think he wants to get his IU career started by telling two players they'd have to give up their scholarships, so he had to have a really, really good idea of what would happen. As far as losing stars -- those stars got us to 18-16, 7-11 last season. So I say let's get the roster set, and let's get going on 2017-18. Archie's still got some good material to work with and almost certainly can do better than 18-16 and 7-11.I'm not sold on Archie knowing that JBJ and TB were gone when he reached out to the recruits. I think it's more likely that he didn't want to go 0fer on his first incoming class while at IU. That could cause headaches down the road. I think JBJ is gone, with promises to momma Blackmon. TB is difficult to gauge. He seems to really enjoy college and his teammates. I could see him coming back for his junior year. If that happens it will be interesting to see who comes off scholarship. Josh 1 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 Throwback to that one time people got mad at Jimmy for celebrating a buzzer beater. Hope he comes back. https://instagram.com/p/BTTv_wKFcxX/Haha, I was the one leading that charge saying it wasn't a good look. They proceeded to go 2-6 or something the next month. I guess that win was worth celebrating. Quote
HoosierAloha Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 That's great stuff by A Bozich. I really think Green and De'Ron have the chance to be the 1-2 punch on a B1G champ team. pumpfake, Hoosierfan2017 and thebigweave 3 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted April 25, 2017 Author Posted April 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said: That's great stuff by A Bozich. I really think Green and De'Ron have the chance to be the 1-2 punch on a B1G champ team. They both are raw untapped potential. Same with Morgan. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 So De'ron wont be going home in May like the players usually do before coming back in June? An entire summer in Bloomington should turn him into a monster. thebigweave, BtownBanner6, Crimson and Cream and 3 others 6 Quote
Chris007 Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 1 hour ago, LamarCheeks said: I don't disagree. I've thought all along that JBJ and TB likely would leave. And I think Archie had some indication of that. Otherwise, he could've just let any of the three signees out of their LOIs. I don't think he wants to get his IU career started by telling two players they'd have to give up their scholarships, so he had to have a really, really good idea of what would happen. As far as losing stars -- those stars got us to 18-16, 7-11 last season. So I say let's get the roster set, and let's get going on 2017-18. Archie's still got some good material to work with and almost certainly can do better than 18-16 and 7-11. I think JBJ really likes Archie & so does his family. There have been rumors of him staying & maybe his brother Veejay walking on. It's odd that Curtis Jones was not mentioned at all today. WayneFleekHoosier, Stuhoo and thebigweave 3 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 In the collection of Bozich tweets Stuhoo provided there's specific mention of JBJ and Johnson but nothing regarding TB. Is that an unintended (or maybe intended) subtle message that JBJ and Johnson are both returning and TB is gone? mdn82 1 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Chris007 said: I think JBJ really likes Archie & so does his family. There have been rumors of him staying & maybe his brother Veejay walking on. It's odd that Curtis Jones was not mentioned at all today. or McSwain. Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 Alex's article now online: http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/04/25/notes-quotes-tuesdays-availability-archie-miller-ius-assistant-coaches/ Basically just the collection of tweets Stuhoo posted earlier. Quote
Chris007 Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said: or McSwain. Yes you are correct. He just seems to fly under the radar all the time but I do know for sure there was talk towards the end of the season about Jones leaving & I noticed we are recruiting a lot of two guards. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 I'm starting to think TB is gone and James is back, the opposite of what I expected a few weeks ago. Jbj staying and his brother walking on is intriguing and makes sense to me. If Vijay still wants to play college basketball this would be a great opportunity for him. It'd be a chance for them to play together one more time. WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
pumpfake Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 I really liked the comment about having a post presence. I think Davis is going to give us that (much moreso than Bryant) - I just hope he can handle more minutes and stay out of foul trouble. I look forward to recruiting (successfully) another difference maker in the middle in 2018/2019. Hoosierfan2017 and JaybobHoosier 2 Quote
Stuhoo Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 17 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said: In the collection of Bozich tweets Stuhoo provided there's specific mention of JBJ and Johnson but nothing regarding TB. Is that an unintended (or maybe intended) subtle message that JBJ and Johnson are both returning and TB is gone? In the entire article on ITH there is no mention of TB. It's notable that there's no mention of Curtis, but TB is such a major player that the lack of mention of him, to me is far, far more notable. On the other hand, if our front line is: DeRon, Juwan, Collin, Freddie, Justin, Clifton, MSB, and Zach, we are more than well covered. A healthy Juwan and an in-shape DeRon will be big-time pieces, Collin will be Collin, and Justin and Freddie should be key defensive pieces from the get-go this year. Class of '66 Old Fart and Hoosierfan2017 2 Quote
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