TOM CREAN FIRED

[Walking Boot of Doom]

I wanted Crean fired during the 2014-15 year after back to back crappy seasons. He lured me back onto his side with last year's performance. I thought he was actually improving as a coach. Then this season I got back on board with firing him. He's taken a team with 2 McDonald's all Americans and several 4 stars and driven them to the near bottom of the Big 10. Few have done less with more than him. 

 

Last season's turnaround was insane. Everyone was peaking: Crean, Yogi, TB, OG/JM. That team had great chemistry.

 

So sad watching how incapable Crean is at maintaining consistency.

 

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[KingPG21]

I don't really get the love for Altman. People complain about Crean's teams sucking defensively, Altman is mostly the same. This year is his best year defensively when you looking at the adjusted defensive efficiency numbers, and it is still 16th. And the next best is 31st. It can greatly fluctuate from year to year and usually sits in the 50's or 60's. It is an improvement on Crean, but not really what people are looking for when they talk about defense

[BlueDevil]

20 mins in and no mention of IU lol can't defend Crean anymore


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[Alford Bailey]

8 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I wanted Crean fired during the 2014-15 year after back to back crappy seasons. He lured me back onto his side with last year's performance. I thought he was actually improving as a coach. Then this season I got back on board with firing him. He's taken a team with 2 McDonald's all Americans and several 4 stars and driven them to the near bottom of the Big 10. Few have done less with more than him. 

Yogi and good Troy bailed us out more than I think most of us realize last year. Never dreamed this team could be this bad.

[Alford Bailey]

1 minute ago, BlueDevil2aHoosier said:

20 mins in and no mention of IU lol can't defend Crean anymore


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LOL, he is a clown. How is that not no. 1 topic?

[JSHoosier]

6 minutes ago, KingPG21 said:

I don't really get the love for Altman. People complain about Crean's teams sucking defensively, Altman is mostly the same. This year is his best year defensively when you looking at the adjusted defensive efficiency numbers, and it is still 16th. And the next best is 31st. It can greatly fluctuate from year to year and usually sits in the 50's or 60's. It is an improvement on Crean, but not really what people are looking for when they talk about defense

Actually since 2002, the first year of KenPom data, his average is around 74-75 compared to Crean's mid 90s.  Which is really just less bad.  I don't get it at all.

[Hoosier Guy]

44 minutes ago, Rookie33 said:

I agree, but I think we should all focus on him not being here before obsessing about a successor.  A small part of me fears that Glass is going to give him one more chance.... He truly is like a cat with 9 lives...

Relax man. Crean is as good as gone. Not even he can survive this

[Hoosierfan2017]

7 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Last season's turnaround was insane. Everyone was peaking: Crean, Yogi, TB, OG/JM. That team had great chemistry.

 

So sad watching how incapable Crean is at maintaining consistency.

 

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They were so much fun to watch. I was really pleased with a Big 10 title and a Sweet 16 appearance because I never expected anything close to that with the way they looked early on. The highs and lows are too much for me though. I was expecting Crean to build off that, gain recruiting momentum, etc., but instead we're stinking up the joint. 

[Alford Bailey]

Just now, JSHoosier said:

Actually since 2002, the first year of KenPom data, his average is around 74-75 compared to Crean's mid 90s.  Which is really just less bad.  I don't get it at all.

I cant get excited about him. Which means that is probably who they hire, lol!

[the possum]

My first time posting here so I know this has probably already been discussed. I am a long time Hoosier fan that wants Crean gone in the worst way. The guy has survived some of the worse pr issues to ever go on at IU. Players getting arrested in bars and for DUI. Players arrested in Dorms smoking the wild flower and last, but not least players running over another player and ruining the kids life. 

all of this on Creans watch and the guy is still here. The admin loves this guy the are always trying to cover for him and I say they will once again. I hope I am wrong!

[Hoosier Guy]

3 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Yogi and good Troy bailed us out more than I think most of us realize last year. Never dreamed this team could be this bad.

I never dreamed it could've been this bad but I knew there was a chance of them failing to meet expectations again. Not surprised since it's Crean as the coach

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Always the first to toot your own horn lol.


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Had you dealt with an endless barrage from a finite group of people telling you, your instincts were wrong for 2-3 years you might want to toot your own horn as well.

Yes, opinions can change and should. Some of us were just much quicker to evaluate BAD basketball fundamentals far before others. The only way it was ever going to work was with stellar recruiting. This has been my mantra all along.


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[BlueDevil]

LOL, he is a clown. How is that not no. 1 topic?

Very very brief mention then a quick shift to NBA talk


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[Hoosier_roots]

My "We're Back" shirt is taking on new meaning it would seem.


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[Hoosier Guy]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

They were so much fun to watch. I was really pleased with a Big 10 title and a Sweet 16 appearance because I never expected anything close to that with the way they looked early on. The highs and lows are too much for me though. I was expecting Crean to build off that, gain recruiting momentum, etc., but instead we're stinking up the joint. 

Just think about this man. After two B1G championship seasons, the following seasons he would've missed not only the NCAA tournament but the NIT as well. And Crean had 2 McDonald's All-Americans on each team. That is just ridiculous and can't be justified

[Hoosier_roots]

Here's a picture of Billy closing the book on CTC's career in Bloomington. Lol


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[VO5]

Do people on here actually like Dakich? Lol the guy is a whiner and a tool. Sad that he's one of our own. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Do people on here actually like Dakich? Lol the guy is a whiner and a tool. Sad that he's one of our own. 

I like him but I don't get to listen to his radio show so that could change that.

I think he takes some outrageous takes but in general I think he is usually right in an exaggerated form.


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[Alford Bailey]

3 minutes ago, VO5 said:

Do people on here actually like Dakich? Lol the guy is a whiner and a tool. Sad that he's one of our own. 

I dont care for him. He is just a loud mouth and not even a very good one.

[SlamaJamaSisley]

6 minutes ago, VO5 said:

Do people on here actually like Dakich? Lol the guy is a whiner and a tool. Sad that he's one of our own. 

I like Dakich for the most part.  I try to listen to him as often as I can.  I do so with the understanding that he does things for his ratings too so I do expect the unexpected.  You have to sift through some of the garbage at times but hey, it's entertainment playing in the background at my desk at work.