TOM CREAN FIRED

[AZ Hoosier]

7 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

HAHAHA, Dakich just said I go to think about taking calls, I think he is running out of ways to defend the coach! Last caller put him on the spot with: At what point does IU's problems start to fall on Crean? Dakich said yes it does fall on him, after sunshine pumping Crean for calling out players. Lmao.

He's talking with Fisch now... and he just said "what's (Crean) got to lose"... if they don't want to do it (Crean's) way, sit them on the bench... haven't we been saying that all along? THAT is a Crean decision... THAT is "coaching". SMH

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

From Don Fischer to @DanDakich "IU got out-toughed yesterday & if you are a good basketball team, you don't get beat by being out-toughed."

[reconmkd]

9 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

He's talking with Fisch now... and he just said "what's (Crean) got to lose"... if they don't want to do it (Crean's) way, sit them on the bench... haven't we been saying that all along? THAT is a Crean decision... THAT is "coaching". SMH

Exactly, when I played a long time ago, if I did play well there was the bench! Why is it so hard for CTC to utilize the old pine time!

[Alford Bailey]

If Crean is back next year I can no longer be a fan. I'm enabling if I buy a ticket to this crap.

[Alford Bailey]

What I havent heard the talking heads mention is its contract time and what the roster will look like next year. If we lose the big 3(TB, JBJ,OG) and maybe a transfer (DD?) we are looking at a 2010 type year.

[kreigh8]

6 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

What I havent heard the talking heads mention is its contract time and what the roster will look like next year. If we lose the big 3(TB, JBJ,OG) and maybe a transfer (DD?) we are looking at a 2010 type year.

May I ask, would you rather keep Crean for the sake of keeping him to avoid that type of season? Just curious, as I'd be more than happy to start from scratch, as it were, if I felt we had a coach that could do what Crean did and more

[Walking Boot of Doom]

What I havent heard the talking heads mention is its contract time and what the roster will look like next year. If we lose the big 3(TB, JBJ,OG) and maybe a transfer (DD?) we are looking at a 2010 type year.

Where are TB and JBJ going....? Really starting to doubt their ability to make a move to the NBA. JBJ probably gone no matter what, but damn they've really shot themselves in the foot.


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[hsrtxp]

I doubt he actually believes the things he says. He's a professional troll, basically. He knows what will get him an audience, and supporting Crean today will bring in a ton of listeners. 

Not me. Chose not to listen today specifically bc I knew I wouldn't like his stance. He is a troll no doubt. Knowing that, I can tolerate him for what he is.


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[HoosierRob]

I agree with everyone about this team being worse next year.

Does glass really wanna go thorough another year of this garbage? All he would be doing is delaying it by another year, when he needs to do it before the fan base gives up on the program.

If he thinks yesterday's attendance was bad, wait til next year if crean is brought back.

[kreigh8]

17 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Where are TB and JBJ going....? Really starting to doubt their ability to make a move to the NBA. JBJ probably gone no matter what, but damn they've really shot themselves in the foot.


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NBA, D-League, Europe? Does it matter - they won't be wearing candy stripes regardless

[Rookie33]

17 minutes ago, kreigh8 said:

NBA, D-League, Europe? Does it matter - they won't be wearing candy stripes regardless

Bryant is a late first rounder (likely).  JBJ will be in D League or Europe likely.  The one who might come back is OG b/c of his injury and his underwhelming (IMO) play prior thereto.  I hope Hartman is given an opportunity to come back though the tea leaves suggest he's being forced out ala Matt Roth (which was ridiculous).

[Stuhoo]

 

I thought this was kinda interesting:

A Greg Doyle article dated March 19, 2015 explaining why Indiana fans are dumber than a stump to believe that Billy Donovan would be interested in being the coach of the Hoosiers. The reason why? Now, in all fairness, the option of leaving UF for the pros was not contemplated in this piece, but the primary reason cited by Doyle was because supposedly Donovan was a University of Florida lifer that would not ever consider leaving Gainesville. 39 days later, Donovan...you guessed; moved on from Gainesville.

A direct passage from that article is below...Hawhumpfh!

Billy Donovan to Indiana? Because he doesn't want to be at a football school, presumably.

Never mind that he turned down Kentucky, twice, to stay at that football school, both times when the UF football team was near the top of the world. In recent years UF football has slid to irrelevance. And now's the time Donovan wants to leave?

Come on.

People spreading that rumor don't understand how invested Donovan is in Gainesville, not just in the university community but also in the high school community. Donovan is a devout Catholic, and his family was instrumental in the fundraising for St. Francis Catholic High, which opened in Gainesville in 2004. The two oldest Donovan children went to St. Francis. The third, Bryan, is a junior at St. Francis. The fourth, Connor, will enter the school next year.

Donovan's leaving for Indiana? He's not leaving for Indiana.

 

[Brass Cannon]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

I thought this was kinda interesting:

A Greg Doyle article dated March 19, 2015 explaining why Indiana fans are dumber than a stump to believe that Billy Donovan would be interested in being the coach of the Hoosiers. The reason why? Now, in all fairness, the option of leaving UF for the pros was not contemplated in this piece, but the primary reason cited by Doyle was because supposedly Donovan was a University of Florida lifer that would not ever consider leaving Gainesville. 39 days later, Donovan...you guessed; moved on from Gainesville.

A direct passage from that article is below...Hawhumpfh!

Billy Donovan to Indiana? Because he doesn't want to be at a football school, presumably.

Never mind that he turned down Kentucky, twice, to stay at that football school, both times when the UF football team was near the top of the world. In recent years UF football has slid to irrelevance. And now's the time Donovan wants to leave?

Come on.

People spreading that rumor don't understand how invested Donovan is in Gainesville, not just in the university community but also in the high school community. Donovan is a devout Catholic, and his family was instrumental in the fundraising for St. Francis Catholic High, which opened in Gainesville in 2004. The two oldest Donovan children went to St. Francis. The third, Bryan, is a junior at St. Francis. The fourth, Connor, will enter the school next year.

Donovan's leaving for Indiana? He's not leaving for Indiana.

 

He is the reason I don't read the star anymore. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

1 minute ago, Rookie33 said:

Bryant is a late first rounder (likely).  JBJ will be in D League or Europe likely.  The one who might come back is OG b/c of his injury and his underwhelming (IMO) play prior thereto.  I hope Hartman is given an opportunity to come back though the tea leaves suggest he's being forced out ala Matt Roth (which was ridiculous).

If we're lucky enough to get a new coach and Hartman wants to come back, I'm confident there will be a roster spot for him and plenty of playing time available.  And with some likely transfers out and expected pro departures , surely even CTC isn't dumb enough to look a gift horse in the mouth in terms of an experienced player if CTC should, god forbid, still be our coach next season.

[Bowhunter]

 Crean's system is flawed . For dribble-drive offense to work you need Elite athletes. The system we run like the three-man Weave, is basically starting our offense with penetration by driving one on one . We do not have Fox and Monk on our team to blow by everyone. So basically we are forcing everything and when you force things, you turn it over.  So with the right players healthy we can win by out scoring the other team, that is if our shots are falling (usually at home).  If they are not we lose because our defense is so bad. I just don't see this as a recipe for success at the college level. 

[bigrod]

TBH Crean is saying plenty that all of this is on him. No one has been cherry picking those quotes though.

Still needs to go, just saying I think people are crucifying him for calling out players and completely deflecting blame.


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What gets me is Crean acts like these are new developments. This has been going on all season (actually, several seasons). Even when we beat Kansas, we were putting the welcome mat out in the lane.

Blame the players all you want, but if the coach accepts mediocrity, the players are more than willing to accept it. If the coach allows players to lose their man and just pick up the closest guy, the players think it is the norm. If he thinks these habits have developed over the last few games, he simply hasn't been paying attention.

Name one time when Crean has sat a player down for this kind of play. It has been consistent throughout the year and he has been unwilling to motivate with the bench. What motivation do the players have to change?

As long as he states the problem but doesn't come up with solutions, he should definitely be held accountable. It is his job to find solutions. Period.


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[recker222000]

I have now heard three media people say glass will not fire him. That is just mind boggling. If true he has 100 lives.

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[theriverpilot]

3 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Yep, but nothing but status quo. Both are charter members of the Mediocrity Admiration Society.

Dakich is putting it ALL on the players... he said "do it his (Crean's) way, you win big. do it your (the player's) way, you lose". What a load of crap. Sure it's partly on the players, but who's starting them, leaving them in the game, not "coaching" them. It's on Crean

Odd that Dakich is putting it on the players since these are the players Crean recruited and offered.  You just can't put it on players here IMO.

[IUHAHN81]

Anyone think the team will take enough offense to creans comments to lay down extra hard now?

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

Some major news regarding Billy D. Anthony Davis's agent has told people that him and Westbrook plan on going to LA together in a year or two. If this is true Billy D will not want to take part in a rebuild after being so close to winning a title.

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