TOM CREAN FIRED

[Stuhoo]

I don't see Bennett leaving a top 15 ACC program.

[Brass Cannon]

8 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I don't see Bennett leaving a top 15 ACC program.

$$$$$

[Uspshoosier]

I don't see Bennett leaving a top 15 ACC program.

 

 

 

You will always be no better then 3rd behind Duke and North Carolina in the ACC. (Always battle Syracuse and Louisville for 3rd) If he came to IU he could be the top coach (assuming izzo doesn't stay forever) at the top school in the B1G. Even if you Finish better then duke and North Carolina they will always be the talk of the league

 

 

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[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

You will always be no better then 3rd behind Duke and North Carolina in the ACC. (Always battle Syracuse and Louisville for 3rd) If he came to IU he could be the top coach (assuming izzo doesn't stay forever) at the top school in the B1G. Even if you Finnish better then duke and North Carolina they will always be the talk of the league

 

 

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Best argument for him leaving I have heard. Great points. I do think he is very comfortable there though.

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[Stuhoo]

$$$$$

Using IU to leverage a big $$$ extension from UVA?
That I could see.

[Feathery]

For me its 

1. Marshall

2. Bennett

3. Tie between Archie Miller and Smith. 

Those guys have proven to have championship level defenses multiple times and recently. So they know how to defend todays game and have adapted well.

All 4 are viable options in my opinion. IU is a better program than the ones they are at.  IU will pay more and has better natural recruiting grounds to get talent from. 

Id pass on hoiberg bc he never has shown to coach a championship level defense, so its much like Crean. Unless I missed his top 20 defenses somewhere....

 

[Feathery]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Using IU to leverage a big $$$ extension from UVA?
That I could see.

The administration that fired his sister is gone. His other reason for saying no before was he wasnt ready for that big of a job. The man has won the ACC, he is ready for the job now. If he says no, fine, but you cant just rule him out. This isnt a Stevens/Boston Celtics situation. Its freaking Virginia, currently the 5th best program in the ACC. They are behind Duke, UNC, Cuse, Lville in prestige and importance.  On a given year they could be lower than that. 

[HoosierAloha]

Izzo has personal accountability, a sound team defense(for most years), and a tough non-con schedule to have his team prepared for B1G play and March.

Did Crean spend his tenure under Izzo with his hands over his ears yelling, "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA"?

According to Crean, he was responsible for making signs to hold up during the game. I'm not sure if they needed them or if it was his "special" task.

[Stuhoo]

The administration that fired his sister is gone. His other reason for saying no before was he wasnt ready for that big of a job. The man has won the ACC, he is ready for the job now. If he says no, fine, but you cant just rule him out. This isnt a Stevens/Boston Celtics situation. Its freaking Virginia, currently the 5th best program in the ACC. They are behind Duke, UNC, Cuse, Lville in prestige and importance.  On a given year they could be lower than that. 

I don't rule Bennett out; I think he's excellent.
I just don't see it.

[JSHoosier]

25 minutes ago, Feathery said:

For me its 

1. Marshall

2. Bennett

3. Tie between Archie Miller and Smith. 

Thise guys have oeoven to jave championship level defenses multiple times and recently. So they know how to defend todays game and have adapted well.

All 4 are viable options in my opinion. IU is a better program than the ones they are at.  IU will pay more and has better natural recruiting grounds to get talent from. 

Id pass on hoiberg bc he never has shown to coach a championship level defense, so its much like Crean. Unless I missed his top 20 defenses somewhere....

 

I'd put Bennett above Marshall.

Marshall has at least won consistently everywhere he's been with resources similar to his opponents, so I do think he's am improvement.  Crean can't win consistently even with better resources than most programs in the country.

[JSHoosier]

I'm so fed up with watching Crean's street ball offense that I'd probably dance a jig if the new coach ran the exact opposite style.

Granted 'opposite style' just means taking care of the ball, being fundamental, and not forcing a 3 just because you crossed half court.

[HoosierAloha]

Random thoughts...

The Boston Celtics is a class organization that can win at the highest levels in the best league, second best isn't even close, in the world. However, IU would offer the opportunity to reclaim elite status under your guidance. Is it possible that a combination of family and reestablishing your childhood program to the top of college basketball is a big enough draw?

When the IU coaching position is vacant you present your best pitch to the man. If he turns it down multiple times you move on. I still believe Stevens ends up at IU before he retires.

The next in line would be Donovan and Bennet. All three (Stevens, Donovan, Bennet) would be "lifers" at IU. When you make that move you're committed to them to bring a natty to Btown.

If we reach a point where none of them are willing to sign on the dotted line you move to the next tier of younger coaches with upside. Archie Miller and Hoiberg.

That would be my list with Marshall and Mack being "better-than-Crean" but not great hires. You have to think highly enough of the program that you're willing to fail in order to succeed. I believe most on here still consider IU a blue blood with potential to be elite. We need to focus on getting the program back to that level. The first step is believing we can get back there.

[Brass Cannon]

39 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Using IU to leverage a big $$$ extension from UVA?
That I could see.

I don't think they could match us if we were determined

[JSHoosier]

2 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Random thoughts...

The Boston Celtics is a class organization that can win at the highest levels in the best league, second best isn't even close, in the world. However, IU would offer the opportunity to reclaim elite status under your guidance. Is it possible that a combination of family and reestablishing your childhood program to the top of college basketball is a big enough draw?

When the IU coaching position is vacant you present your best pitch to the man. If he turns it down multiple times you move on. I still believe Stevens ends up at IU before he retires.

The next in line would be Donovan and Bennet. All three (Stevens, Donovan, Bennet) would be "lifers" at IU. When you make that move you're committed to them to bring a natty to Btown.

If we reach a point where none of them are willing to sign on the dotted line you move to the next tier of younger coaches with upside. Archie Miller and Hoiberg.

That would be my list with Marshall and Mack being "better-than-Crean" but not great hires. You have to think highly enough of the program that you're willing to fail in order to succeed. I believe most on here still consider IU a blue blood with potential to be elite. We need to focus on getting the program back to that level. The first step is believing we can get back there.

Stevens and Donovan have to be the first calls, doing whatever you have to do to land one; not just call to call.

Either of them with the resources of IU is a nightmare for any non-IU fan.

[HoosierAloha]

Stevens and Donovan have to be the first calls, doing whatever you have to do to land one; not just call to call.

Either of them with the resources of IU is a nightmare for any non-IU fan.

This. I want the rest of the B1G and college basketball world pooping their pants when IU lands an elite coach.

[Alford Bailey]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Most venerable poster Milehiiu on the 247 board is very far from a Crean hater.
He just posted that there is movement toward an amicable split.
FWIW

Im holding on to this with every fiber of my being.

[IUHAHN81]

I don't care what Stevens says publicly, no way he doesn't go home and talk it over and give it serious thought.  Those of us from Indiana(including Stevens) know what Indiana bball means and how important and close we hold it to our hearts.  You don't just say eff it without a second thought.  No way.  U see it all the time.  Coaches in every sport publicly saying they aren't going anywhere when rumors come out and 2 days later the coach moves on.  He(Stevens) is gonna think on it trust me.

[IUHAHN81]

Bennett as 2nd choice hands down for me.

[AKHoosier]

30 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

This. I want the rest of the B1G and college basketball world pooping their pants when IU lands an elite coach.

Exactly.  I wonder what other objective fans who follow college basketball think of our program the last 10-20 years.

They probably look at IU basketball the way that I look at University of Texas football.  They've got all the resources, fan support, recruiting hotbed, money, tradition..so what is their problem?  Why can't they put it together?  

There's no excuse.

[Walking Boot of Doom]

The Boston Celtics is a class organization that can win at the highest levels in the best league, second best isn't even close, in the world. However, IU would offer the opportunity to reclaim elite status under your guidance. Is it possible that a combination of family and reestablishing your childhood program to the top of college basketball is a big enough draw?

 

Sooo... what's with people not realizing that the Celtics are a "blueblood" of the NBA, and BS is currently bringing it back to its former glory...?

 

The only draw outside of the NBA vs. College argument is that BS supposedly said IU is his dream job. People's opinions also change over time... I don't think there is really any logical reason why he would chose IU over Boston.

 

Not saying it won't happen, but there isn't a strong argument why it's even reasonable to think it could happen.

 

 

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