TOM CREAN FIRED

[MikeRoberts 6,844]

Because that 20 yr old kid doesn't see IU as anything but a stepping stone between high school and the millions. He doesn't care how the team performs as long as he makes his millions. It's rather apparent in a few of their styles. I mean, one mother already is laughing her way to the bank.

i liked your post/response to mine because I agree in General but I don't think that equates to "apathy" as I was commenting on

[Naturalhoosier 15,366]

i liked your post/response to mine because I agree in General but I don't think that equates to "apathy" as I was commenting on

 

Apathy in the sense of not caring.  They don't care about winning.  They care only for themselves.  That's the apathy I'm referring to.  ;)

 

Edit:  Our interpretations of apathy could be different and that's ok too.  :)

[mdn82 25,467]

Not sure what to make of this but, IU had their biggest comeback win in the Crean era this year against ND (-16).

We should have never been down 16 but nevertheless, we came back and won. I don't know if that was a complete fluke or something different that is happening. Anytime during Crean's time here that we have been down double digits I have said, well, we're done and we always been, but for the first team, we fought back.

Maybe it was a fluke, maybe not, just trying to find something positive regarding this coach and team

The worst part was Ray Charles could see an adjustment in the zone that created that opportunity and yet it doesn't carry forward. That should have been the light bulb moment. IMO

[southsidehoosier 4,799]

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I had to read the comment below the pic twice before I realized who they were talking about but once I did I was cracking up

[Old Friend 8,389]

Because that 20 yr old kid doesn't see IU as anything but a stepping stone between high school and the millions. He doesn't care how the team performs as long as he makes his millions. It's rather apparent in a few of their styles. I mean, one mother already is laughing her way to the bank.

And this is the problem with our program.  This is fine at Kentucky.  That's who Kentucky is.  It is not fine at Indiana.  Not our culture, not our history, not our DNA.  We have a coach who enables this and allows 23 turnovers in a game against a bad team because he wants the players to showcase themselves.  We need our soul back....

[Naturalhoosier 15,366]

And this is the problem with our program. This is fine at Kentucky. That's who Kentucky is. It is not fine at Indiana. Not our culture, not our history, not our DNA. We have a coach who enables this and allows 23 turnovers in a game against a bad team because he wants the players to showcase themselves. We need our soul back....

Can't argue that at all.

[MikeRoberts 6,844]

And this is the problem with our program. This is fine at Kentucky. That's who Kentucky is. It is not fine at Indiana. Not our culture, not our history, not our DNA. We have a coach who enables this and allows 23 turnovers in a game against a bad team because he wants the players to showcase themselves. We need our soul back....

even UK plays great defense

[OliviaPope40 6,304]

Steven's deal with Boston is 6 years worth $22 million. 

[Brass Cannon 24,069]

Steven's deal with Boston is 6 years worth $22 million.

3 years down by the time we'd be calling

[Josh 12,386]

My thought is that the apathy that the general fan base is feeling has leaked into the locker room and has directly affected the team's mindset.

 

I think blaming the fanbase for the team's struggles got Mike Davis fired.  They don't need us to tell them how bad they look.  They know.  I'm sure the lockerroom mindset is messed up, but that's on them.

[BlueDevil 8,655]

I think blaming the fanbase for the team's struggles got Mike Davis fired. They don't need us to tell them how bad they look. They know. I'm sure the lockerroom mindset is messed up, but that's on them.

Haha unrelated but brings back memories of an old college baseball coach chewing our ass after a game. Basically said the bench and bullpen weren't loud enough and talkative and that was the reason we lost. That was his last year.

[JSHoosier 19,645]

Haha unrelated but brings back memories of an old college baseball coach chewing our ass after a game. Basically said the bench and bullpen weren't loud enough and talkative and that was the reason we lost. That was his last year.

"The bench wasn't loud enough".  Seems like we've heard that one before.  Did he also say the lights were too bright?

[JSHoosier 19,645]

I read through the first few pages again, and wow things have changed.  I went from "he shouldn't be fired yet" to "so, has he been fired yet?".

 

I also totally forgot this thread started in Vonleh's only season.

[BlueDevil 8,655]

I read through the first few pages again, and wow things have changed. I went from "he shouldn't be fired yet" to "so, has he been fired yet?".

I also totally forgot this thread started in Vonleh's only season.

Closing in on 3k posts should be all that needs to be known hahaha

[Trish 11,417]

First day of 2016 and he's still our coach.

 

Lord

[Stuhoo 76,317]

I read through the first few pages again, and wow things have changed.  I went from "he shouldn't be fired yet" to "so, has he been fired yet?".

 

I also totally forgot this thread started in Vonleh's only season.

 

 

Two and a half straight years of NEVER being ranked in the top 25 for any meaningful time will definitely have that effect!

[JSHoosier 19,645]

Two and a half straight years of NEVER being ranked in the top 25 for any meaningful time will definitely have that effect!

I said in those pages Vonleh's team was undisciplined, sloppy and at times downright lazy.  Flash forward to now and the team is undisciplined, sloppy and at times downright lazy with the added bonus of thinking defense is de-thing that goes around de-house.

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,057]

Two and a half straight years of NEVER being ranked in the top 25 for any meaningful time will definitely have that effect!

perfect way to put it.

[mdn82 25,467]

Does ANYBODY support this guy? Except for Glass......?

Yes. The games I went to it was still split.

[Brass Cannon 24,069]

Yes. The games I went to it was still split.

What? How can that be. What are the supporters saying.