Walking Boot of Doom Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 I've heard a couple different stories about some players absolutely despising him. These were players who didn't transfer eitherI'd suspect it had less to due with his character and more his aggressive style of coaching (ridiculous practices and expectations).End of the day, Indiana needed someone to clean up a huge mess after Sampson, and someone who wouldn't embarrass the program with cheating and poor character. Crean did that. He messed up how he handled the issues with The Movement (Breaking news: college kids drink underage and smoke pot and do a ton of dumb things), but I'll stand by the opinion that his mishandling of those issues was out of love for his players (hence why everyone thought the punishments were weak).Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app VO5 1 Quote
recker222000 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 It's an interesting narrative that you've crafted. It seems he's burned bridges due to his aggressive personality and over recruiting, which has lost the trust of the in-state coaches.Why did Yogi and Cody and JBJ want to play for him?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appYogi and zeller were early on. People caught onto crean after that. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
bigrod Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 I'm so tired of listening to his BS after games. A really bad team just took us to triple OT at home, and he's never been more proud. Do us all a favor: put in your resignation on that high note.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Uspshoosier Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 Why does nobody from the state want to play for this man? Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Wouldn't that answer be simple because he isnt a good basketball coach. Maybe they feel they would grow as a basketball player under a different coach. I doubt it has anything to do with not playing for him because he isn't a good man. When crean was getting blasted last year after the Duke game Lyle (Ohio st tweeted about how he was like a father figure to him. Although Wilkes went to UCLA he has nothing but good things to say about crean the person. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Walking Boot of Doom and 8bucks 2 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 Yogi and zeller were early on. People caught onto crean after that. Sent from my SM-J700T using TapatalkJBJ?It's a lot easier to find direct and indirect evidence of people supporting Crean and promoting the idea that he's a good man. You have back channel rumors and your own assumptions. Believe what you want. Crean can be a good man and a bad coach. Not mutually exclusive.Plus, if Crean's an a$$hole, that sort of goes against your entire argument that Glass loves him and won't fire him. Would make it pretty easy to fire him if he were like Kevin Wilson.Keep doing you man [emoji108]🏼Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 14 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said: It's an interesting narrative that you've crafted. It seems he's burned bridges due to his aggressive personality and over recruiting, which has lost the trust of the in-state coaches. Why did Yogi and Cody and JBJ want to play for him? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I think Crean has a, unique, personality that rubs some people the wrong way. That could be part of the reason for why he's disliked by some people who know him. WayneFleekHoosier, recker222000, Stuhoo and 3 others 6 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 I think Crean has a, unique, personality that rubs some people the wrong way. That could be part of the reason for why he's disliked by some people who know him. Agreed. Good character, but a prickly personality. I know plenty of people who I dislike but will eagerly promote as good people. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Hoosierfan2017 1 Quote
AZ Hoosier Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: The "he's a great man" storyline seems like another excuse for his subpar coaching to me. "So what if he's not a very good coach, he's a great man and a great person to represent our program so we should keep him." I dont know the man personally so I can't judge his character, but there are enough stories out there to make me wonder how true the "he's a great person" angle really is. I remember the "good guy" comments about Bill Lynch, too. Bill is a heck of a nice guy, and is well-respected as a man... but that does not make him a good coach, neither does it mean that he can/should coach IU Football. It's the same with Tommy Boy. He may be a swell feller (I've never met him, personally), but he is clearly neither a good coach, nor the man to lead the IU basketball program. Hoosierfan2017 and Happydaze 2 Quote
AZ Hoosier Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said: Wouldn't that answer be simple because he isnt a good basketball coach. Maybe they feel they would grow as a basketball player under a different coach. I doubt it has anything to do with not playing for him because he isn't a good man. When crean was getting blasted last year after the Duke game Lyle (Ohio st tweeted about how he was like a father figure to him. Although Wilkes went to UCLA he has nothing but good things to say about crean the person. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Yeah, Tommy Boy impresses me as the kind of guy that players who don't play for him like. You just named two... I'm sure there are more. Quote
TheWatShot Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 It's probably easy for players to like Crean and say good things about him when they aren't subjected to his 4 hour practices and constant manic energy. Quote
JSHoosier Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: The "he's a great man" storyline seems like another excuse for his subpar coaching to me. "So what if he's not a very good coach, he's a great man and a great person to represent our program so we should keep him." I dont know the man personally so I can't judge his character, but there are enough stories out there to make me wonder how true the "he's a great person" angle really is. I heard similar "he's a good guy" things about Mike Davis too when I was at IU. Doesn't matter, that's not really part of the job description. Although I've heard Crean described as an a**hole on more than one occasion. By the same person so there is that. Hoosierfan2017 and Happydaze 2 Quote
southsidehoosier Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 I'm jealous [emoji19] Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app IUsafety, CR3AMnCR1MS0N, BGleas and 1 other 4 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 1 hour ago, TheWatShot said: It's probably easy for players to like Crean and say good things about him when they aren't subjected to his 4 hour practices and constant manic energy. I'd really like to know what Crean has them doing at practice for 4 hours. Obviously nothing to do with defense, inbounding or feeding the post.. The way they play makes me think he just has them standing around doing 3pt drills the entire time. Beachfront Property and ALASKA HOOSIER 2 Quote
Popular Post Hovadipo Posted February 2, 2017 Popular Post Posted February 2, 2017 I don't think anyone is saying Crean being a good guy is a reason for him to stay as our coach, as many are making it out to be. More that him being a good guy gives no one any reason for the personal attacks or stupid (and not even creative or humorous) nicknames. Pretty much everyone agrees that he isn't a good enough coach to get us where everyone wants us to be. The insults are just childish. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners ALASKA HOOSIER, 8bucks, Walking Boot of Doom and 9 others 12 Quote
TheWatShot Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 I know it's been discussed, but how realistic would our chances be with Tony Bennett? He makes $2.1 million a year at Virginia, and they just upped his salary not long ago. Crean makes $3.5 million here. If we bumped that up to $4 million and offered to double Bennett's salary, would he take it? thebigweave, BGleas and ALASKA HOOSIER 3 Quote
Yogi's Picnic Basket Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 I don't think anyone is saying Crean being a good guy is a reason for him to stay as our coach, as many are making it out to be. More that him being a good guy gives no one any reason for the personal attacks or stupid (and not even creative or humorous) nicknames. Pretty much everyone agrees that he isn't a good enough coach to get us where everyone wants us to be. The insults are just childish. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersExactly!! This x100000!! He is an awesome person and the insults are annoying. I want a new coach, but I also want to see Crean succeed. Last night people wanting us to lose was crazy just to make his chances higher. If losing to Penn State was gonna do it now than the IPFW at #3 would've done it. I think it is 50/50 he leaves or stays. Glass will have feelers out there and if no one better than Crean wants the job he will stay. At least that is what I hope will happen. I think Crean has brought our program back to being a desirable job and I thank him for that as all you should. This isn't the same IU it used to be just like UCLA and UK and KU aren't the same. We may never get back there, but I hope we do. Sent from my LGLS676 using BtownBanners mobile app Hovadipo, BGleas and ALASKA HOOSIER 3 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 I know it's been discussed, but how realistic would our chances be with Tony Bennett? He makes $2.1 million a year at Virginia, and they just upped his salary not long ago. Crean makes $3.5 million here. If we bumped that up to $4 million and offered to double Bennett's salary, would he take it? Can't say for certain but I don't think so. I have no facts to go on except the overall feel. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Hovadipo Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 I'd love Bennett. Not sure how much the sister thing matters, but it wouldn't hurt to throw some money at him and see what happens. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners BGleas, IUsafety, ALASKA HOOSIER and 1 other 4 Quote
recker222000 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 I don't think anyone is saying Crean being a good guy is a reason for him to stay as our coach, as many are making it out to be. More that him being a good guy gives no one any reason for the personal attacks or stupid (and not even creative or humorous) nicknames. Pretty much everyone agrees that he isn't a good enough coach to get us where everyone wants us to be. The insults are just childish. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners I'd really like to know what Crean has them doing at practice for 4 hours. Obviously nothing to do with defense, inbounding or feeding the post.. The way they play makes me think he just has them standing around doing 3pt drills the entire time. You weren't around for the Mike Davis years I take it? Crean has it easy compared to Davis.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 You weren't around for the Mike Davis years I take it? Crean has it easy compared to Davis.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalklol I was at school then and I disagree. People weren't saying things to Davis family.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
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