Stuhoo Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 Lol. Well ok then. :) PS Feathery...I like you! :biggrin: HoosierAloha and Feathery 2 Quote
8bucks Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 Yeah bc extra phone calls, which aren't illegal anymore, completely makes everything he says for the rest of his life worth nothing... It wasn't just Sampson that said that about Crean. Announcers have said it. Marquette fans complained about it. IU fans have seen it happen almost every single year. Thanks. I said something similar but my post disappeared. Quote
Popular Post Stuhoo Posted January 25, 2016 Popular Post Posted January 25, 2016 Thanks. I said something similar but my post disappeared. I believe it was the revered Coach Robert M. Knight who was once famously quoted as saying: "I don't give a g_ddam flying motherf**king f**k what the hell godd_m Kelvin f**king Sampson says about godd_m anything". I feel the same, but unlike Coach Knight, I would not have put it that politely. HoosierAloha, ThompsonHoosier, Naturalhoosier and 6 others 9 Quote
HoosierTrav Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 Bozich article link: BOZICH | One secret to Indiana's success? Those $3 gardening gloves Posted: Jan 23, 2016 4:24 PM EST Updated: Jan 23, 2016 4:56 PM EST By Rick BozichCONNECT . Collin Hartman, Max Bieldfeldt and Yogi Ferrell discussed Indiana's 12th straight win. BLOOMINGTON, Ind. (WDRB) – Tom Crean was neither pleased nor impressed with the way his Indiana University basketball team was handling the basketball. Crean was not booing the sloppy turnovers, but let’s be honest: Indiana fans were. It wasn't unusual for IU to kick the ball away 20 times. So Crean invested in several things: A box of $3 cloth gardening gloves and a stopwatch. He told his players they needed to show him that they could dribble, pass and catch the basketball crisply while wearing those cheap gloves. Keep wearing them and figure it out. Get control of the ball and yourself. When they didn’t? They ran. Crean gave his guys a limit of 12 turnovers in road games and nine during home games. Exceed those totals and it was time for a running drill that Crean cooked up at Marquette. He calls it "17." Get on the line and sprint. From one side of the court to the other. Do it 17 times. And do it in less than 65 seconds. “Coach has been telling us that for us to be a great team and for us to be able to win, we can’t turn the ball over,” said Yogi Ferrell, IU’s senior point guard. "We had three in practice once. It was a tough day." This is the way the Hoosiers have responded: In their last two games Indiana has delivered more three-point field goals than turnovers. They made 13 threes and only 10 turnovers while defeating Northwestern, 89-57, Saturday in Assembly Hall. It was Indiana’s 12th straight win overall and seventh straight in Big Ten play. They owe their coach one "17." Somebody get Calbert Cheaney on the phone. Send a text message to Damon Bailey. Ask your mother or uncle how those guys played college basketball. They’ve been gone from Indiana University for more than two decades. That’s how long it’s been since the Hoosiers had won seven consecutive Big Ten games – 1993. Victor Oladipo couldn’t do it. Cody Zeller couldn’t do it. Eric Gordon couldn’t do it. Jared Jeffries, A. J. Guyton or Brian Evans? No, no, no. Ferrell, Collin Hartman, Thomas Bryant and the rest of Crean’s surging team have now done it. “I knew we had a lot of talent,” IU forward Max Bielfeldt said. “With this little streak, we’ve had, I think it’s beginning to show.” Consider this victory additional proof the Hoosiers are sharing the ball, shooting the ball and defending the ball better than anybody watching in Bankers Life Fieldhouse thought was possible when Indiana fans were booing this team as it trailed Notre Dame by 16 points in the second half five weeks ago. Even John Mellencamp’s latest Uptown Girl, Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition cover girl Christie Brinkley, was up and cheering for nearly two hours. “The more simple we can make our passing and the more active we are in our cutting the better we are,” Crean said. “These guys were too good to be giving the ball back like that.” Take another look at the standings: The Hoosiers sit a half-game ahead of Iowa (6-0) atop the Big Ten. The grind of the schedule awaits, beginning with a trip to Wisconsin Tuesday night. IU has only beaten two teams – Ohio State and Nebraska – currently in the first division of the Big Ten. But that’s a story for next week. Today this team looks capable and determined to slug it out with Iowa, Maryland, Purdue and Michigan State at the top of the league. “I feel like we have a lot of confidence, especially on the defensive end,” Ferrell said. Some teams have to manufacture the No Respect card. Indiana was drawing that card from both sides of the deck after the Hoosiers finished sixth in the Maui Invitational and followed that performance with a 20-point loss at Duke. This game was similar to the last two that Indiana played at home when the Hoosiers overpowered Ohio State and Illinois. They led 10-0. They never trailed. Shooting? James Blackmon Jr. is out for the season after surgery on his right knee, but Crean has shooters. Seven players scored from distance, four days after nine IU players made three-point shots in the Illinois victory Tuesday. That list included the usual suspects – Robert Johnson, Ferrell and Hartman all scored three times from distance. It also included two unusual suspects – freshman forward Juwan Morgan as well as senior walk-on Ryan Burton, the transfer from Bellarmine. (Nick Zeisloft and Max Bielfeldt were the others.) In its last two home games, Indiana has made half of its three-point field goal attempts – 19 of 36 against Illinois and 13 of 28 against Northwestern. “It’s amazing the level the confidence gets when the ball goes in the basket and when their teammates want it to go in the basket,” Crean said. Their scoring was balanced. Ferrell led IU with 17 points, but seven others scored at least seven. Their defense showed no similarities to the defense they played over the opening month of the season. For the seventh consecutive game, Indiana limited a Big Ten opponent to less than one point per possession. Is there more work to do? There is always more work to do. Reducing turnovers. They'll run extra for their coach in the next practice. “It’s all mindset,” Hartman said. “You’ve got to come in being aggressive. The Big Ten is a tough league.” Wisconsin awaits. The Hoosiers defeated the Badgers, 59-58, in Assembly Hall on Jan. 5. But Indiana has lost 13 consecutive games in Madison, a streak that started with Bob Knight, accelerated with Mike Davis, continued with Kelvin Sampson and has not disappeared under Crean. Another chance for Indiana to break out the gloves. Great article by Bozich. I'm so hot and cold with him. At times he hits the nail on the head, while at other times, he really goes out of his way to push a pro Crean agenda. He should stick to these types of articles. He just embarrasses himself and loses credibility (with me) when he tries to defend Crean each time the coach puts himself in a tough spot. Nothing makes me want to ignore a journalist more than when they write with an air of haughtiness. When he makes claims that he and pro-crean factions are the "realistic people", while purposely leaving out legitimate questions that the other side of the aisle present, it just makes me never want to take a word of his seriously. Sorry for the rant. Good article. hoosierpap and 8bucks 2 Quote
HoosierTrav Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 "Fire Tom Crean?" Seriously?? As of tonight he could be elected governor of Indiana. Might want to lay low for a while... He and his team are fighting like crazy right now. He has dug himself such a deep hole, that his criticisms will remain to be valid until he proves otherwise. Unfortunately for him, these criticisms cannot possibly be refuted in January. Lets have a chat in March, shall we? 8bucks, Napleshoosier and ALASKA HOOSIER 3 Quote
biteoftheapple Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 Great article by Bozich. I'm so hot and cold with him. At times he hits the nail on the head, while at other times, he really goes out of his way to push a pro Crean agenda. He should stick to these types of articles. He just embarrasses himself and loses credibility (with me) when he tries to defend Crean each time the coach puts himself in a tough spot. Nothing makes me want to ignore a journalist more than when they write with an air of haughtiness. When he makes claims that he and pro-crean factions are the "realistic people", while purposely leaving out legitimate questions that the other side of the aisle present, it just makes me never want to take a word of his seriously. Sorry for the rant. Good article. I just wanted to point out that this article is written by Rick, not Alex. He is a journalist is Louisville. Alex brother. Quote
HoosierTrav Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 I just wanted to point out that this article is written by Rick, not Alex. He is a journalist is Louisville. Alex brother. Sometimes I cant tell them apart. I am speaking on rick from the Louisville Courier. He's hot and cold with me. I dont read anything written by his son Alex. Quote
Jam Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 Not his brother, Alex's dad. Napleshoosier and ALASKA HOOSIER 2 Quote
wilfordhetzel Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 This thread is silly. Crean has done his best job so far this year. Give him credit stop the negativity. ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Popular Post BlueDevil Posted January 25, 2016 Popular Post Posted January 25, 2016 This thread is silly. Crean has done his best job so far this year. Give him credit stop the negativity. This thread is not silly. This thread was here long before this season. IU is playing great but the jury is still out once the schedule picks up. Crean has gotten credit so far. HoosierAloha, ALASKA HOOSIER, southsidehoosier and 8 others 11 Quote
Popular Post biteoftheapple Posted January 25, 2016 Popular Post Posted January 25, 2016 This thread is silly. Crean has done his best job so far this year. Give him credit stop the negativity. You are silly. Everyone's opinion is valuable as the next. Just do not open it if it displeases you. KingPG21, thebigweave, mdn82 and 5 others 8 Quote
mdn82 Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 You are silly. Everyone's opinion is valuable as the next. Just do not open it if it displeases you.From a mods perspective this... There are all sorts of temperaments in IU basketball now. They should all have their chance to discuss their views without ridicule. Naturalhoosier, Napleshoosier, ALASKA HOOSIER and 2 others 5 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 This thread is not silly. This thread was here long before this season. IU is playing great but the jury is still out once the schedule picks up. Crean has gotten credit so far.true story. Looking forward to see how things develop. I honestly don't know if we flop or not. But, I have hope again, and that is awesome. Parakeet Jones, 8bucks, HoosierTrav and 2 others 5 Quote
Popular Post MikeRoberts Posted January 25, 2016 Popular Post Posted January 25, 2016 true story. Looking forward to see how things develop. I honestly don't know if we flop or not. But, I have hope again, and that is awesome.here lies the issue. As good as we look RIGHT NOW, we are all cautiously optimistic it carries through to the end of the season. History says it won't but... WayneFleekHoosier, thebigweave, Napleshoosier and 5 others 8 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 This thread is really just the Btown Banners Heat Check. Changes faster than Crean's recruiting interests. Naturalhoosier 1 Quote
Uwe Robb Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 Not lots of people giving Crean props which I am fine with, but the Crean apologists can scan back to the night we lost to Duke and realize that there isn't near as much talk as harsh as that either. I think this thread is pretty fair. Stuhoo 1 Quote
Popular Post HoosierAloha Posted January 25, 2016 Popular Post Posted January 25, 2016 Can you not give props to Crean and the team but still feel a change should be made? I really like how the team is playing right now but not blind to see how we played during stretches of this winning streak. If Crean had his team playing this consistently well over the last 3-4 years this thread wouldn't exist. There is a much larger picture here and in that overall image I don't see Crean being the coach that takes IU to the sustained heights I think IU should be. Nothing less, nothing more. GO HOOSIERS!!! ALASKA HOOSIER, MikeRoberts, Class of '66 Old Fart and 7 others 10 Quote
mdn82 Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 I think all things considered this has been one of the better behaved topics. It could have went bad but people are open to discussion. Bobman1, HoosierAloha, mamasa and 3 others 6 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 http://www.crimsonquarry.com/2016/1/25/10826336/tom-creans-quietly-making-an-early-run-at-big-ten-coach-of-the-year Quote
Brass Cannon Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 I have been as critical of Crean as anybody. But what he is doing now is intriguing me. Not even to change my mind yet. But if he sustains this then I could see myself changing my mind. -This is the first year we are hearing he is letting up on the team. So hopefully they don't fade. This is something I have been critical of. -This is the first year where I can remember him using the bench as a learning tool for turnovers and lack of defense. This is something I have been very critical of. I think these two things are just so critical for the team. If Crean can sustain this type of team culture, I think it will lead to more success as a program. ALASKA HOOSIER, ThompsonHoosier, WayneFleekHoosier and 1 other 4 Quote
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