#348 MVSU vs. #3 Indiana Game Thread

[chitown hoosier]

1 minute ago, Dalton26 said:

 

Get out of here with that crap. You're new so you don't really have a clue because I am one of the bigger "crean haters" or "negative posters" on here. The fact is as I said you all were through the roof when we beat Kansas and because we got upset you all are acting like the world is ending and we got lucky against Kansas? Top teams get upset all the time, it's college basketball it happens. Same thing happened when we got blown out by Duke last season and everyone wanted to call it a season then. Then we went on a nice run and beat UK in the tournament and everyone was excited again. I'm sorry but I'm not going to let 1 game throw me into a hissy fit like it has some on here.

Reason I stayed away after that loss. Knew this board would erupt. I hated that loss as much as anyone but it wasn't the end of the world. It's early on in the season and there will be growing pains within the season as well as within games. Big test Wednesday and it will show where IU is compared to the big boys. Just hoping for a competitive game.

[rebelhoosier848891]

Just now, TheWatShot said:

The IPFW loss stung, and nothing that happened today was going to make it feel any better. 

But a Win against Carolina will be just what the doctor ordered!

[Dalton26]

Reason I stayed away after that loss. Knew this board would erupt. I hated that loss as much as anyone but it wasn't the end of the world. It's early on in the season and there will be growing pains within the season as well as within games. Big test Wednesday and it will show where IU is compared to the big boys. Just hoping for a competitive game.

Exactly. It's still early in the season and we are still trying to replace Yogi Ferrell. It will take time and there will be some road bumps along the way. If we were 20 games in and this happened I'd be worried but there is a lot of basketball left to be played.

[FortWayneHoosier]

Get out of here with that crap. You're new so you don't really have a clue because I am one of the bigger "crean haters" or "negative posters" on here. The fact is as I said you all were through the roof when we beat Kansas and because we got upset you all are acting like the world is ending and we got lucky against Kansas? Top teams get upset all the time, it's college basketball it happens. Same thing happened when we got blown out by Duke last season and everyone wanted to call it a season then. Then we went on a nice run and beat UK in the tournament and everyone was excited again. I'm sorry but I'm not going to let 1 game throw me into a hissy fit like it has some on here.

When I said lucky I meant that we went to overtime and all of their players fouled out. We played a hell of a game that night. But I'm not gonna sit here and act like we are world beaters over that game, at the same act like we suck because of a loss against ipfw. My whole stance is that we need to improve on a lot of things for this team to go really far. I love this team this year but it has a lot of growing to do which is totally fine for a "young" team. My biggest issue is that our big men don't get enough touches, and we shoot way too many 3's, other than that we got small things to work on. I can see this team going really far this year. I hope we are all good here


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[bleedhoosier]

Will see if there's a replay but it's worth not getting worked up about just yet. We have all laughed at MSU and Louisville for dropping some head scratchers early on, in previous years. Let's wait a few more games and see how the team looks.

We have a lot of new pieces working things out on the floor right now. No one looks settled in out there except for Rojo, OG and Blackmon. Even TB looks out of sync floating around the perimeter.

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[Uspshoosier]

No one said people shouldn't state their opinion. Dalton's opinion (and my opinion) is that people are attributing too much negativity into a cupcake game that we won by 35 points.

With our top scorer sitting out as well. Top teams play down to their competition all the time. I'm not saying they should but it's just reality. I watched Louisville play to their competition and let old dominion take them to overtime in the Bahamas. I watched Iowa st play to their competition and let the sycamores come within a 3 from scott in pulling an upset. I have watched Xavier play Lehigh and only win by 3


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[VO5]

3 minutes ago, hurryinghoosier5 said:

If we beat UNC, all of the people that are being so negative are right back on the bandwagon. Kind of annoying, but I get it. Being a fan is emotional.


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It's not people jumping back on the bandwagon. We're all fans here. People get negative because they see great things in this team and don't want it squandered. Being positive about a loss doesn't make someone a better fan than someone who is negative about one

[HooHooHoo22]

It's not people jumping back on the bandwagon. We're all fans here. People get negative because they see great things in this team and don't want it squandered. Being positive about a loss doesn't make someone a better fan than someone who is negative about one

Its like you can jump the gun on how good we can be but you can't jump the gun on how crappy we could possibly be if we don't fix things.


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[The Ola Depot]

I think we all have forgotten Crean's comments before the season started after the Kansas game. This team is not even close to their full potential and where most of them will eventually be. We are a good team and will be even better later.

[Dalton26]

When I said lucky I meant that we went to overtime and all of their players fouled out. We played a hell of a game that night. But I'm not gonna sit here and act like we are world beaters over that game, at the same act like we suck because of a loss against ipfw. My whole stance is that we need to improve on a lot of things for this team to go really far. I love this team this year but it has a lot of growing to do which is totally fine for a "young" team. My biggest issue is that our big men don't get enough touches, and we shoot way too many 3's, other than that we got small things to work on. I can see this team going really far this year. I hope we are all good here


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I agree 100%. 1 game either way early in the season honestly means next to nothing. It's about how you're playing when you're getting closer to the end. I agree and have stated multiple times I think we have a lot to work on and the people who are talking about that aren't the ones my posts were towards. It's more of the posts that say "we're bad" "we shouldn't be ranked" "this team isn't that good" etc etc.

[Stuhoo]

It's okay to be negative.
It's okay to say people are too negative.

It's okay!

[FortWayneHoosier]

I agree 100%. 1 game either way early in the season honestly means next to nothing. It's about how you're playing when you're getting closer to the end. I agree and have stated multiple times I think we have a lot to work on and the people who are talking about that aren't the ones my posts were towards. It's more of the posts that say "we're bad" "we shouldn't be ranked" "this team isn't that good" etc etc.

Ok good! Glad we are on the same page. At the end of the day we all want the same thing.


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[Uspshoosier]

Its like you can jump the gun on how good we can be but you can't jump the gun on how crappy we could possibly be if we don't fix things.


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[OliviaPope40]

1 hour ago, Whoozhers said:

Student Christmas songs sung during MSVS free throws I can do without.

My mom asked what that noise was because she knew it was jingle bells.

[KingPG21]

1 hour ago, hurryinghoosier5 said:

If we beat UNC, all of the people that are being so negative are right back on the bandwagon. Kind of annoying, but I get it. Being a fan is emotional.


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You seem a bit confused as to what a bandwagon fan is. Being negative isn't being a bandwagon fan. 

[yogisballin]

Sorry no one should state opinions on here anymore.


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Why I keep from saying anything much here. I think before last season I was always getting ripped for opinions. Mainly come here to read anymore with a comment here or there


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[Class of '66 Old Fart]

OUCH!   Per KenPom our turnover rate is 23.4% good for 325th in D-1.  

[HooHooHoo22]

Why I keep from saying anything much here. I think before last season I was always getting ripped for opinions. Mainly come here to read anymore with a comment here or there


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I might have to go that route also


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[HoosierAloha]

OUCH!   Per KenPom our turnover rate is 23.4% good for 325th in D-1.  

I'm sure we just need to play faster...

[AKHoosier]

16 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

OUCH!   Per KenPom our turnover rate is 23.4% good for 325th in D-1.  

I'm sure this is a dumb question, but does this mean we essentially turn it over on 1 out of every 4 possessions?

I'm just unclear if kenpom uses anything else to come up with the turnover rate.

If so, that's hideous.  Imagine how many more shots or free throws we could make if we brought that number down just a little.