College Football Thread

[cthomas]

Penn State looks slow and overmatched so far.

[RoadRage]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Not so fast, my friend.

My guess is Texas doesn't fall below 5 (6 if Oregon loses to Penn State).  IU looks locked in at the 10 (with either Alabama and Arizona State or Clemson and SMU or Clemson and Alabama behind them).   I don't see a scenario where IU is anything but the 10 seed, which means playing the 7.  

As of now, would say the seeds are:

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. SMU (although they are getting skull drug in the first four minutes against Clemson)
4. Boise State
5. Texas
6. Penn State
7. Notre Dame
8. Ohio State
9. Tennessee
10. Indiana
11. Alabama
12. Arizona State

That would have us at Notre Dame.

If Clemson beats SMU, I would expect Clemson to be at 12 and Arizona State to move to 4 as the auto bye and Boise State to move to 3.  At that point it depends on what the committee does with SMU -- but I think the decision isn't whether they stay ahead of IU but rather if they are in over Alabama.  In that case, just put SMU at 11, Alabama out, and Clemson at 12.

The Penn State/Oregon game I expect not to have any ripple effect beyond the first 8 seeds.  If Penn State wins, they would be the 1 seed, Oregon would probably be the 5, Texas the 6.  If Oregon wins, I would expect Penn State to fall to 7 and Notre Dame to move to 6.

So my two cents:  IU at Notre Dame if Penn State beats Oregon, IU at Penn State if Penn State loses to Oregon.

Arizona State impressed me today, Skattebo is a hard guy  to bring down!

[Brass Cannon]

12 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Not so fast, my friend.

My guess is Texas doesn't fall below 5 (6 if Oregon loses to Penn State).  IU looks locked in at the 10 (with either Alabama and Arizona State or Clemson and SMU or Clemson and Alabama behind them).   I don't see a scenario where IU is anything but the 10 seed, which means playing the 7.  

As of now, would say the seeds are:

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. SMU (although they are getting skull drug in the first four minutes against Clemson)
4. Boise State
5. Texas
6. Penn State
7. Notre Dame
8. Ohio State
9. Tennessee
10. Indiana
11. Alabama
12. Arizona State

That would have us at Notre Dame.

If Clemson beats SMU, I would expect Clemson to be at 12 and Arizona State to move to 4 as the auto bye and Boise State to move to 3.  At that point it depends on what the committee does with SMU -- but I think the decision isn't whether they stay ahead of IU but rather if they are in over Alabama.  In that case, just put SMU at 11, Alabama out, and Clemson at 12.

The Penn State/Oregon game I expect not to have any ripple effect beyond the first 8 seeds.  If Penn State wins, they would be the 1 seed, Oregon would probably be the 5, Texas the 6.  If Oregon wins, I would expect Penn State to fall to 7 and Notre Dame to move to 6.

So my two cents:  IU at Notre Dame if Penn State beats Oregon, IU at Penn State if Penn State loses to Oregon.

I don’t see any reason the losers today will stay ahead of Notre dame 

[LamarCheeks]

PSU committing some stupid penalties. Had a personal foul on a kickoff that wasn't returned. 

That's the kinda crap you can't afford while playing the No. 1 team. 

[HoosierTrav]

11 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

PSU committing some stupid penalties. Had a personal foul on a kickoff that wasn't returned. 

That's the kinda crap you can't afford while playing the No. 1 team. 

Looks familiar and giving me ptsd.

[RoadRage]

Penn State is overrated....they might be a top 10 team, but not a top 3!

[RaceToTheTop]

This first half for Penn State is the worst thing to happen in Penn State football history.

 

Too soon?

[reconmkd]

Yep feeling confirmed, definitely not indigestion! As an Oregon State alum, it pains me to say this but the ducks are going to be B1G Champs and the Ninny Lions may not score again.

Edit: Well at least part of it may still be right, lol

[Alford Bailey]

48 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Not so fast, my friend.

My guess is Texas doesn't fall below 5 (6 if Oregon loses to Penn State).  IU looks locked in at the 10 (with either Alabama and Arizona State or Clemson and SMU or Clemson and Alabama behind them).   I don't see a scenario where IU is anything but the 10 seed, which means playing the 7.  

As of now, would say the seeds are:

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. SMU (although they are getting skull drug in the first four minutes against Clemson)
4. Boise State
5. Texas
6. Penn State
7. Notre Dame
8. Ohio State
9. Tennessee
10. Indiana
11. Alabama
12. Arizona State

That would have us at Notre Dame.

If Clemson beats SMU, I would expect Clemson to be at 12 and Arizona State to move to 4 as the auto bye and Boise State to move to 3.  At that point it depends on what the committee does with SMU -- but I think the decision isn't whether they stay ahead of IU but rather if they are in over Alabama.  In that case, just put SMU at 11, Alabama out, and Clemson at 12.

The Penn State/Oregon game I expect not to have any ripple effect beyond the first 8 seeds.  If Penn State wins, they would be the 1 seed, Oregon would probably be the 5, Texas the 6.  If Oregon wins, I would expect Penn State to fall to 7 and Notre Dame to move to 6.

So my two cents:  IU at Notre Dame if Penn State beats Oregon, IU at Penn State if Penn State loses to Oregon.

I’d take either scenario.

[RoadRage]

Impressive come back by Penn State!

[go iu bb]

1 hour ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Georgia Tech was one play on multiple occasions from beating Georgia....but a Georgia win over Texas in the title game would have given them a bye anyway.  

If a three loss team can get a bye, the new CFP seeding is broken.  I get allowing the top five conference champions in but you shouldn't give four of them automatic byes.  Right now being the 8 or 9 seed is really bad because the winner plays the 1 seed in round 2.

The 5 seed draw isn't bad....you host the 12 and then face the 4 seed who really isn't 4 in the CFP rankings;  it will be Boise State (who is currently 10th) or Arizona State who is somewhere around 15.

I think this will change. I think the current setup is only for this year and next, maybe even just this year (I don't remember which). A lot of people have seen the issues you posted here.

[Crimson and Cream]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

Tom Allen’s defense is wearing concrete shoes and running in mud. 

I bet they LEO though

[Crimson and Cream]

Penn St hanging in there. That Oregon defense looks like it could be the weak spot. Not that PSU's offense is anything to scoff at mind you.

[Hovadipo]

SMU setting its case for staying in over Bama on fire. 

[NashvilleHoosier]

2 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

SMU setting its case for staying in over Bama on fire. 

And simultaneously making all of the conversation tomorrow about all the 3 loss SEC teams vs. SMU instead of all the 3 loss SEC teams vs. IU. 

[Hovadipo]

1 minute ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

And simultaneously making all of the conversation tomorrow about all the 3 loss SEC teams vs. SMU instead of all the 3 loss SEC teams vs. IU. 

I wasn’t too worried about that, but any insurance is nice. Especially after Cig took a big fat dump on the committee on national TV today. 

[RoadRage]

DEFENSE!

[Brass Cannon]

Gotta think SMU is out 

[RaceToTheTop]

57 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

I don’t see any reason the losers today will stay ahead of Notre dame 

Because of what the committee has said in terms of handling winners/losers of conference championship games -- basically not penalizing a team for reaching their championship game.  I'm not arguing for that thinking or against it, just going by what the committee has said.  I think outside of a team getting trounced, the amount of movement you see isn't going to be major.  I don't see Texas falling below the 5 seed unless Oregon loses, in which case Oregon is the 5 and Texas is the 6.  The truth is I could see a scenario where Notre Dame actually goes to the 7 if Penn State wins of hangs really close with Oregon.

Given the Georgia win, I don't see Notre Dame being any better than the 6 seed.

The one item yet to be seen is how the committee is going to handle SMU if they continue to lay an egg to Clemson in the second half.  If they are true to their word, Alabama is out.  If not, Alabama is in.

[Magnanimous]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Because of what the committee has said in terms of handling winners/losers of conference championship games -- basically not penalizing a team for reaching their championship game.  I'm not arguing for that thinking or against it, just going by what the committee has said.  I think outside of a team getting trounced, the amount of movement you see isn't going to be major.  I don't see Texas falling below the 5 seed unless Oregon loses, in which case Oregon is the 5 and Texas is the 6.  The truth is I could see a scenario where Notre Dame actually goes to the 7 if Penn State wins of hangs really close with Oregon.

Given the Georgia win, I don't see Notre Dame being any better than the 6 seed.

The one item yet to be seen is how the committee is going to handle SMU if they continue to lay an egg to Clemson in the second half.  If they are true to their word, Alabama is out.  If not, Alabama is in.

I think that whole thing about not penalizing a team needs to be confined to each respective conference. For example (taking Alabama out of the equation) Miami shouldn’t get in over SMU because SMU lost an extra game. 

But these games also have to mean something and should still serve as a data point for seeding and evaluating bubble teams.