College Football Thread

[Alford Bailey]

If records don’t matter Alabama, Georgia and Ohio St should be in every year because they are always the most talented teams.

[Hoosierfan222]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Texas beat them by 10 points and Alabama led going into the fourth quarter…. We can play the “they had close games against meh teams” with any of the top teams this year. Michigan barely beat Maryland. 7 of Washington’s last 9 wins have been by one possession. Florida State struggled with Boston College, Michigan, and Clemson (before they lost Travis). Texas barely beat Kansas State, Houston, and TCU. 

As it stands today, do you think FSU is a better team than Alabama? 

I hate the argument of who’s the best team, because it’s completely subjective and there’s no actual way to determine it, so stop using that as the chief metric. 
 

Do I THINK Alabama is better than FSU? Yes, but FSU won every game and earned the right on the field to prove that. These stupid predictive measures should not matter more than wins and losses, nothing should. 

Most people thought Oregon was better than Washington, which is why they were nearly double digit favorites in the PAC Championship. Yet Washington won, GAMES HAVE TO MATTER. We are robbing FSU of the chance to prove anything. 
 

It’s just absurd we’ve determined there are more important factors to who qualifies for a chance to compete for the national championship than wins and losses.

This isn’t a P5 vs G5 argument, we are comparing the ACC to the SEC, and by the way, the ACC has a winning record on the year versus the SEC. 

[LamarCheeks]

College football misses this man ... 
 

 

[Hoosierfan2017]

35 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

I hate the argument of who’s the best team, because it’s completely subjective and there’s no actual way to determine it, so stop using that as the chief metric. 
 

Do I THINK Alabama is better than FSU? Yes, but FSU won every game and earned the right on the field to prove that. These stupid predictive measures should not matter more than wins and losses, nothing should. 

Most people thought Oregon was better than Washington, which is why they were nearly double digit favorites in the PAC Championship. Yet Washington won, GAMES HAVE TO MATTER. We are robbing FSU of the chance to prove anything. 
 

It’s just absurd we’ve determined there are more important factors to who qualifies for a chance to compete for the national championship than wins and losses.

This isn’t a P5 vs G5 argument, we are comparing the ACC to the SEC, and by the way, the ACC has a winning record on the year versus the SEC. 

“Best team” isn’t any more subjective than “most deserving team.” Why does FSU deserve it? Does Liberty deserve it this year? Did UCF “deserve” it in 2017? 

I mean, if you remove subjectivity, the BCS had Alabama at #3 and FSU at #4 instead of Texas. So Alabama still would’ve gotten in, but the 12-1 Big 12 champion that beat them wouldn’t have been. 

https://twitter.com/cfbnerds/status/1731665352541581396?s=46&t=LoczziaTWuqlhvyvHGT92A

[Hoosierfan222]

12 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

“Best team” isn’t any more subjective than “most deserving team.” Why does FSU deserve it? Does Liberty deserve it this year? Did UCF “deserve” it in 2017? 

I mean, if you remove subjectivity, the BCS had Alabama at #3 and FSU at #4 instead of Texas. So Alabama still would’ve gotten in, but the 12-1 Big 12 champion that beat them wouldn’t have been. 

https://twitter.com/cfbnerds/status/1731665352541581396?s=46&t=LoczziaTWuqlhvyvHGT92A

You’re making nonsense comparisons and you know it. 
 

Does Liberty deserve it? No, because they didn’t beat a single P5 team the entire year and have zero top 25 wins and one of the weakest SOS’s in the entire country. 
 

Is that a good comparison to FSU who beat two SEC teams, won every game they played, including multiple top 25 wins, and completely throttled LSU on the way to doing that? That’s a solid comparison to Liberty? Really? 
 

FSU isn’t in a G5 conference. If Alabama’s exact resume is replaced with the name Indiana, is anyone deluding themselves into thinking we’d jump FSU?

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

24 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

“Best team” isn’t any more subjective than “most deserving team.” Why does FSU deserve it? Does Liberty deserve it this year? Did UCF “deserve” it in 2017? 

I mean, if you remove subjectivity, the BCS had Alabama at #3 and FSU at #4 instead of Texas. So Alabama still would’ve gotten in, but the 12-1 Big 12 champion that beat them wouldn’t have been. 

https://twitter.com/cfbnerds/status/1731665352541581396?s=46&t=LoczziaTWuqlhvyvHGT92A

Texas was moved to 3 to put Bama in. Texas should have been 4. FSU 3. Plain and simple. FSU got jobbed for money and money only.

[go iu bb]

Let's not forget that Alabama didn't just get beat soundly by Texas, they got beat soundly by Texas at home. 

I've heard the argument that basically says Alabama is a different team now because that happened in week 2. Okay, then, when do losses start to count? Week 3? Week 6? When? I thought the whole season was supposed to count but I guess not.

[Josh]

Final Four Heisman candidates are set.  Michael Penix, Jayden Daniels, Bo Nix, Marvin Harrison Jr

It would sicken me if the SEC slurping biased this list like it did the Playoff field

[maharkn]

Final Four Heisman candidates are set.  Michael Penix, Jayden Daniels, Bo Nix, Marvin Harrison Jr
It would sicken me if the SEC slurping biased this list like it did the Playoff field

I'm sure Daniels will when it but penix is the only one that actually deserves it. Only 18 yards on Indiana should be an automatic disqualification

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[Alford Bailey]

Gotta be Daniel’s or Penix

[Hovadipo]

It’s going to be Daniels because a large portion of the voters are box score watchers that don’t even care about college football. 

[Lebowski]

Here we go. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-proposing-new-college-athletics-subdivision-rooted-in-direct-athlete-compensation-145051537.html

[reconmkd]

17 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Here we go. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-proposing-new-college-athletics-subdivision-rooted-in-direct-athlete-compensation-145051537.html

What could go wrong?

[Rico]

You can't make this stuff up:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/alabama-qb-tyler-buchner-enters-transfer-portal-to-return-to-notre-dame-as-lacrosse-player-per-report/

[Hovadipo]

52 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Here we go. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-proposing-new-college-athletics-subdivision-rooted-in-direct-athlete-compensation-145051537.html

The part that confuses me from Dellenger’s twitter thread is that apparently schools in this division would still compete with everyone else for NCAA titles? Everything else seems fairly reasonable considering the office it’s coming from. 

[Alford Bailey]

It’s all gonna be make believe before long. Made up story lines for maximum clicks.

[Demo]

That’s insane if true. As the 4th pick last year, which must be close to Harrison’s landing spot, Anthony Richardson got a signing bonus of 21 mil over the life of the deal. So, what, 6 mil a year or so with salary included? Better be a stronga$$ insurance policy involved as well.

[Stuhoo]

15 minutes ago, Demo said:

That’s insane if true. As the 4th pick last year, which must be close to Harrison’s landing spot, Anthony Richardson got a signing bonus of 21 mil over the life of the deal. So, what, 6 mil a year or so with salary included? Better be a stronga$$ insurance policy involved as well.

Not so crazy. Why shouldn't a top ten team's football revenue, and therefore their player budget rival that of an NFL team? Not sure how college can compete with a multi-year pro deal though.

If open season NIL is what they wanted and what's allowed, this is a logical progression. It's the New York Yankees vs the Oakland A's college football style.

[Hovadipo]

7 minutes ago, Demo said:

That’s insane if true. As the 4th pick last year, which must be close to Harrison’s landing spot, Anthony Richardson got a signing bonus of 21 mil over the life of the deal. So, what, 6 mil a year or so with salary included? Better be a stronga$$ insurance policy involved as well.

I think he's going to go #2. Last year his old QB got $36 million guaranteed at 2. There's just no way, but even if it is true, it would be such a bad idea. Insurance like you said, quality of life, etc. Resources at OSU are not topped at the college level, but still don't compare to NFL resources.

[Demo]

6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not so crazy. Why shouldn't a top ten team's football revenue, and therefore their player budget rival that of an NFL team? Not sure how college can compete with a multi-year pro deal though.

If open season NIL is what they wanted and what's allowed, this is a logical progression. It's the New York Yankees vs the Oakland A's college football style.

Yeah, I didn’t make that clear at all. Not insane for them to offer it. I’m sure they can. It’d be nuts for him to take it. Risking the possibility of making 9 figures over a career for a de facto guaranteed 1 year deal plus insurance should be a total non-starter for him.