College Football Thread

[Lebowski]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

It is not possible to have too many playoff games. Especially when opening round games will be on campus. That’s going to be bananas. 

Yeah my hope is that the fans will want more than 12 teams. Personally I would like automatic bids for conference champions so that means at least a 16 team tournament in order for at large bids to compete.  

[Demo]

Check this out. Schwartz test driving the rationale the committee had on file to disregard the Bama-Texas result in case FSU had dropped a 50 bomb on Louisville. “We believe Alabama’s best win was better than Texas’ and their 1 loss wasn’t as bad. We just couldn’t ignore those facts and reward an undeserving Texas.”

[hoopsta007]

7 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Yeah my hope is that the fans will want more than 12 teams. Personally I would like automatic bids for conference champions so that means at least a 16 team tournament in order for at large bids to compete.  

I’d limit it to only conference champions.  It would be a way to temporarily fight the super conference expansion talk.  If only conference champions made it then there would be less incentive for the top teams to group up as it would minimize their playoff access.

[OliviaPope40]

FSU fans

[Alford Bailey]

Luckily for the committee FSU plays Georgia. Odds are they lose but if they beat Georgia….

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

16 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Sure, a 3rd stringer who led his team to a 59-0 blowout in his conference title game while throwing for 250+ and 3 tds. FSU’s third stringer threw for 55 yards last night. 219 total yards of offense last night. 224 yards against a 5-7 Florida team.

FSU Was averaging 400+ offensive yards with Travis. Now they’re averaging half that. They very clearly are not the same team they were before. It stinks for the team, and maybe it’s not ‘fair,’ but it’s abundantly clear that they aren’t a top 4 team in the country now. 

And OSU still wasn't undefeated. And FSU will have their 2md string QB for the bowl game. Bama was the money maker. Only reason they were included.

[Hovadipo]

It's going to be really awkward when Bama wins the title. Even the most angry fans right now realize that's more likely than not.

[Hoosierfan2017]

19 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

And OSU still wasn't undefeated. And FSU will have their 2md string QB for the bowl game. Bama was the money maker. Only reason they were included.

Sure, I’m not naive enough to think that money didn’t play any part in it. But we’re talking about a 12-1 SEC champion that just beat the #1 team in the country. It’s not like they put Alabama in for the heck of it because they absolutely needed an SEC team. I don’t think anyone genuinely believes that FSU without Jordan Travis is better than Alabama. So I can’t be mad about the committee putting Alabama in. 

[Banksyrules]

I'm glad that they're expanding the playoffs.  It's been impossible for me to enjoy college football full knowing that even if IU were ever going to go undefeated that we still had no chance of winning it all.  I believe everything is corrupt but College football is to the extreme. 

[Hovadipo]

5 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

I'm glad that they're expanding the playoffs.  It's been impossible for me to enjoy college football full knowing that even if IU were ever going to go undefeated that we still had no chance of winning it all.  I believe everything is corrupt but College football is to the extreme. 

If IU ever went undefeated in the B1G East we would've 100% been in the playoff. The SOS, SOR, etc. would've been astronomical. FSU's was not.

[Lebowski]

29 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

It's going to be really awkward when Bama wins the title. Even the most angry fans right now realize that's more likely than not.

Then again, it'll be extremely awkward if you're wrong. Especially if UM destroys them. Auburn, Arkansas and Texas A&M weren't really good football teams this year and they played them to one score wins. Auburn being the most dramatic only two weeks ago. I might be wrong but I truly think the SEC is the weakest conference this year. If not the weakest then one of the weakest. We'll see it all play out and for the sake of "earning the right" to play over an undefeated P5 school, I hope you are correct here. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

31 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Sure, I’m not naive enough to think that money didn’t play any part in it. But we’re talking about a 12-1 SEC champion that just beat the #1 team in the country. It’s not like they put Alabama in for the heck of it because they absolutely needed an SEC team. I don’t think anyone genuinely believes that FSU without Jordan Travis is better than Alabama. So I can’t be mad about the committee putting Alabama in. 

Sure. And got whooped at home by Texas, struggled to beat South Florida at home, struggled to beat Auburn, struggled to beat Arkansas, struggled to beat Texas A&M.

[Hovadipo]

7 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Then again, it'll be extremely awkward if you're wrong. Especially if UM destroys them. Auburn, Arkansas and Texas A&M weren't really good football teams this year and they played them to one score wins. Auburn being the most dramatic only two weeks ago. I might be wrong but I truly think the SEC is the weakest conference this year. If not the weakest then one of the weakest. We'll see it all play out and for the sake of "earning the right" to play over an undefeated P5 school, I hope you are correct here. 

For sure, I just don't think it's likely at all that Michigan pounds Bama. Either way, and it's just my opinion, I'd rather see Michigan/Bama than Michigan/FSU without Travis. That game probably looks a lot more like the B1G Championship did this weekend than a CFP semifinal.

Also, Bama had some grinders in the SEC, but no one is talking about FSU struggling with average to below average Boston College, Clemson, and Miami with Travis.

[Lebowski]

7 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

For sure, I just don't think it's likely at all that Michigan pounds Bama. Either way, and it's just my opinion, I'd rather see Michigan/Bama than Michigan/FSU without Travis. That game probably looks a lot more like the B1G Championship did this weekend than a CFP semifinal.

Also, Bama had some grinders in the SEC, but no one is talking about FSU struggling with average to below average Boston College, Clemson, and Miami with Travis.

I prefer a defensive battle but that's just me.

Everyone is talking about how FSU never lost a game this year. Even without Travis, good defense be damned. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

23 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Sure. And got whooped at home by Texas, struggled to beat South Florida at home, struggled to beat Auburn, struggled to beat Arkansas, struggled to beat Texas A&M.

Texas beat them by 10 points and Alabama led going into the fourth quarter…. We can play the “they had close games against meh teams” with any of the top teams this year. Michigan barely beat Maryland. 7 of Washington’s last 9 wins have been by one possession. Florida State struggled with Boston College, Michigan, and Clemson (before they lost Travis). Texas barely beat Kansas State, Houston, and TCU. 

As it stands today, do you think FSU is a better team than Alabama? 

[Hovadipo]

9 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

I prefer a defensive battle but that's just me.

Everyone is talking about how FSU never lost a game this year. Even without Travis, good defense be damned. 

I also love a defensive battle, never said differently. To my eyes, Alabama gives Michigan a better game than FSU would have and that's really all I care about. FSU got screwed and deserves to be mad, but I'll let them handle the moaning. They'll probably go and beat Georgia too when half of the Dawgs' roster declares for the draft and sits out, but it won't change anything.

I think both semis will be great.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

12 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Texas beat them by 10 points and Alabama led going into the fourth quarter…. We can play the “they had close games against meh teams” with any of the top teams this year. Michigan barely beat Maryland. 7 of Washington’s last 9 wins have been by one possession. Florida State struggled with Boston College, Michigan, and Clemson (before they lost Travis). Texas barely beat Kansas State, Houston, and TCU. 

As it stands today, do you think FSU is a better team than Alabama? 

Better maybe not. But Florida State did their work and won every game and won the ACC. But Clemson? Clemson is 8-4 and the committee has them in the Top 25. That's somehow bad on FSU? They struggled against Miami. But that's still a better team than USF, Auburn or Arkansas. So you're saying that FSU struggling against Boston College(6-6), Miami(7-5) and #22 Clemson(8-4) are equivalent to struggling against USF(6-6), Arkansas(4-8) and Auburn(6-6)? Texas' are more comparable I guess with Houston(4-8) and TCU(5-7). But Kansas State is #25 and 8-4.

[Scotty R]

14 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

I also love a defensive battle, never said differently. To my eyes, Alabama gives Michigan a better game than FSU would have and that's really all I care about. FSU got screwed and deserves to be mad, but I'll let them handle the moaning. They'll probably go and beat Georgia too when half of the Dawgs' roster declares for the draft and sits out, but it won't change anything.

I think both semis will be great.

You probably loved that Chargers/Patriots game yesterday 6-0

[Hovadipo]

Just now, Scotty R said:

You probably loved that Chargers/Patriots game yesterday 6-0

Defensive battle =/= bad ball. That was bad ball.

[Josh]

53 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

As it stands today, do you think FSU is a better team than Alabama? 

No hate to you, but this question is what makes me angry here.

Who do I think is a better team?  Who cares.  Florida State deserves their chance to prove themselves.  Taking that chance away because somebody's opinion is there's a better team sucks.