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16 minutes ago, VO5 said:

I get what you’re saying, but it’s not like those guys at Kansas and UK are “separate” from the student body. I’m sure they mingle and do everything that other normal college students do too. Just like here. That doesn’t change because they have their own dorms.

Sometimes I think our hatred for other schools like UK, Kansas, Duke, etc. really prevents rational thinking by otherwise really intelligent posters. My 2 cents anyway.

Stu summed up my thoughts, but the players are completely separated both physically and mentally from the regular student body, based on what I've read.

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Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

This is the apartment complex that Morgan, Davis, Green, and Blackmon just signed a lease at. It’s brand new, and it’s covered by their scholarships. It’s better than what Kansas and Kentucky offer, imo, and it’s right across the street from the football stadium.

https://www.evolvebloomington.com/bloomington/evolve-bloomington/photos/

 

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Is this what they did to The Villas??

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13 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Is this what they did to The Villas??

The Villas are still there, as far as i know at least. I think there was another older apartment complex by the stadium that the company tore down to build this new one.

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Then you don’t want to be elite. We can’t consider IU basketball a blueblood and expect to compete for championships every year if that is the attitude we have. And I believe that is the attitude that he IU administration has. Nebraska and Louisville have better practice facilities for cryin’ out loud!

Lmao Nebraska has better practice facilities than CH? Good for them if they do. I am sure it was that way when CH was built. As for Louisville I would hope they do. They had the largest basketball budget in the country and it’s most profitable. If you want change donate the money and tell them how to spend it. Pretty easy actually. If you can’t donate the money how can you sit there and ***** about how they spend their money when you have no clue where the money goes?


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Then you don’t want to be elite. We can’t consider IU basketball a blueblood and expect to compete for championships every year if that is the attitude we have. And I believe that is the attitude that he IU administration has. Nebraska and Louisville have better practice facilities for cryin’ out loud!

Our practice facilities aren't good? I thought you just had a problem with the locker rooms.

 

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28 minutes ago, moyemayhem said:

I think living in dorms your freshmen year with a bunch of people you've never met and wouldn't necessarily hang out with is part of what makes college great.  It may be uncomfortable at first, but it builds character and forces you to grow up more quickly.  Personally, I think that part of the college experience is nearly as important as the classes themselves.  If the players lived in separate dorms, they just won't get that.  Call me old fashioned, but if they want to be student athletes I think they should actually live with other students.  If that loses us some recruits then so be it.

I mean, it’s not like those guys are confined to their dorms. I guarantee they go out and hang with other students in their dorms and have other students come to theirs. You guys are making it sound like they are completely separate entities and I just don’t believe that’s the case. 

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6 minutes ago, Iugradman said:

Then you don’t want to be elite. We can’t consider IU basketball a blueblood and expect to compete for championships every year if that is the attitude we have. And I believe that is the attitude that he IU administration has. Nebraska and Louisville have better practice facilities for cryin’ out loud!

Cook Hall is just fine. It has a renovated weight room, two practice courts, very nice video room, coaches office and everything you need to succeed. The only thing that IU is behind on is a really nice locker room. Where did that nice practice facility get Duke, Nebraska, UK this year?

If players want to get better they will be in Cook Hall getting better all summer long. 

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42 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

WOW do I ever disagree!

The UK players dorm is NOT a place for the players to "mingle and do everything other normal college students do." And do I have evidence of that? Boy do I ever:

 

 

Yes, the dorms are much better than the average student dorm. That’s not my point.

You guys are treating this like the players never get out of them and don’t mingle with other students. That they aren’t getting the “true” college experience and I think that’s false. But we can agree to disagree on this one :)

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I mean, it’s not like those guys are confined to their dorms. I guarantee they go out and hang with other students in their dorms and have other students come to theirs. You guys are making it sound like they are completely separate entities and I just don’t believe that’s the case. 

They have badge access to their dorm building with security watching who comes and goes and when at the front. I guarantee if Cal felt a stud player had hanger on types that were creating issues it would stop.


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15 minutes ago, Iugradman said:

Then you don’t want to be elite. We can’t consider IU basketball a blueblood and expect to compete for championships every year if that is the attitude we have. And I believe that is the attitude that he IU administration has. Nebraska and Louisville have better practice facilities for cryin’ out loud!

Your failure is in assuming there is only one path to become elite. That is why you will not win this argument.

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Last thing I’ll say on the subject of dorms in this thread, but I guarantee if you asked our players about living in normal dorms or dorms like UK has they would pick the UK dorms 10/10 times

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30 minutes ago, Iugradman said:

Then you don’t want to be elite. We can’t consider IU basketball a blueblood and expect to compete for championships every year if that is the attitude we have. And I believe that is the attitude that he IU administration has. Nebraska and Louisville have better practice facilities for cryin’ out loud!

If building basketball specific dorms is the cost of being elite, then I guess I'm not willing to be elite.  I'll still root for the team regardless.  Apologies if that makes me any less of a fan.

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15 minutes ago, moyemayhem said:

If building basketball specific dorms is the cost of being elite, then I guess I'm not willing to be elite.  I'll still root for the team regardless.  Apologies if that makes me any less of a fan.

Doesn’t make you less of a fan. 

My opinion on the subject is college basketball is a business. Basketball/football pay for all the other sports. So you need to treat it as such. When you struggle you make less $$. When you do well you make $$ and it also increases applicants to the university. Basketball is a window to IU for the outside world. It behooves IU to make IU basketball as good as it can be. Why not go all out and be on par with the rest of the elite schools on facilities. If I had my choice I’d rather have a chef and plush living. Especially if I’m not a one and done. I might not ever get to live in luxury again. 

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2 hours ago, Blackmon_for_3 said:

I agree with the player dorms and facilities but I don’t know about the chef part. Maybe I’m old school but I would want my kid to learn how to take care of himself and be a functioning adult. We have a coaching staff that really covers every aspect of player and character development. I’m proud of that. 

I'll disagree with you a bit on the chef thing. While yes in college kids learn how to function as adults and part of that is getting your own meals, but most (most, not all) kids leave college knowing how to prepare Ramen noodles and order pizza's, etc. With an in-house chef players are being exposed to foods they probably normally wouldn't be exposed to, and are learning about nutrition and what the proper foods, prepared the correct ways can provide for your health, performance, etc. 

They probably learn more about food and cooking this way as opposed to being left to their own devices. 

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