Tom Crean to Alabama Rumor Thread

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Crean should be embarrassed by these numbers. I would be!

[swatford]

No Penn State #'s?

 

There really has to be some logical explanation why our recruiting costs are so relatively high. Maybe because we brought in  ton of Freshmen this year?

[WayneFleekHoosier]

No Penn State #'s?

These #s are missing Northwestern, Penn State, and Wisconsin. Not sure why?

[MartintheMopMan]

Glass is an attorney have you ever meet one of those that don't lie?

Hurtful.

[IU Hoosier41]

in the Crean Saying Goodbye thread, page 20. Don't want to link. Not sure if thats allowed here

Edit: Page 20, my bad

You can link.

[323SGrant]

Men's basketball coach salaries, benefits, bonuses paid by university

1. Tom Crean, Indiana - $3,702,559

2. Tom Izzo, Michigan State - $3,530,631

3. Thad Matta, Ohio State - $3,505,565

4. John Beilein, Michigan - $2,873,800

5. Matt Painter, Purdue - $2,458,274

6. Mark Turgeon, Maryland - $2,299,453

7. Tim Miles, Nebraska - $1,887,213

8. John Groce, Illinois - $1,822,604

9. Richard Pitino, Minnesota - $1,605,165

10. Fran McCaffery, Iowa - $1,548,548

11. Eddie Jordan, Rutgers - $1,087,601



Men's basketball recruiting spending

1. Indiana - $716,888

2. Illinois - $431,327

3. Nebraska - $416,096

4. Minnesota - $359,056

5. Iowa - $291,811

6. Michigan State - $256,167

7. Michigan - $234,090

8. Ohio State - $226,226

9. Purdue - $197,206

10. Rutgers - $111,178

11. Maryland - $104,889

Not a good return on investment for his salary or recruiting dollars relative to wins and losses!

[IU Hoosier41]

That recruiting budget compared to our results is so laughable. O$U gets that talent for a quarter of the cost. This is infuriating to me. We pay top dollar and get middle of the pack results. How can anyone be happy with our results????

Just to explain this a bit more. The recruiting dollars are normally budgeted how much you can spend. If Ohio state were budgeted for 800,000 you can damn well bet they'd be much closer to 800,000. I hate seeing those spend numbers because it's all relative to the budget they are given.

Basically Crean does not need to spend all that but he does cus he has it.

[LIHoosier]

These #s are missing Northwestern, Penn State, and Wisconsin. Not sure why?

NW is private, they won't divulge financials.

Penn St pays Chambers $1 for every patron at Bryce Jordan(not much).

As for Wisconsin, Bo just takes everyone's Christmas presents.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Just to explain this a bit more. The recruiting dollars are normally budgeted how much you can spend. If Ohio state were budgeted for 800,000 you can damn well bet they'd be much closer to 800,000. I hate seeing those spend numbers because it's all relative to the budget they are given.

Basically Crean does not need to spend all that but he does cus he has it.

doesn't make it any better. Makes it worse maybe. I am not complaining on the $ amount, it is more about the results. I'd expect top 5-10 classes annually if you are going to spend that amount. If not, stop wasting the extra. Bankroll it.

[AZ Hoosier]

Men's basketball coach salaries, benefits, bonuses paid by university

1. Tom Crean, Indiana - $3,702,559

2. Tom Izzo, Michigan State - $3,530,631

3. Thad Matta, Ohio State - $3,505,565

4. John Beilein, Michigan - $2,873,800

5. Matt Painter, Purdue - $2,458,274

6. Mark Turgeon, Maryland - $2,299,453

7. Tim Miles, Nebraska - $1,887,213

8. John Groce, Illinois - $1,822,604

9. Richard Pitino, Minnesota - $1,605,165

10. Fran McCaffery, Iowa - $1,548,548

11. Eddie Jordan, Rutgers - $1,087,601



Men's basketball recruiting spending

1. Indiana - $716,888

2. Illinois - $431,327

3. Nebraska - $416,096

4. Minnesota - $359,056

5. Iowa - $291,811

6. Michigan State - $256,167

7. Michigan - $234,090

8. Ohio State - $226,226

9. Purdue - $197,206

10. Rutgers - $111,178

11. Maryland - $104,889

 

Tops in coach's salary and tops in recruiting spending... and a 7th place finish after a season ending collapse. WOW.

[AZ Hoosier]

doesn't make it any better. Makes it worse maybe. I am not complaining on the $ amount, it is more about the results. I'd expect top 5-10 classes annually if you are going to spend that amount. If not, stop wasting the extra. Bankroll it.

 

Save it to pay the buyout.

[MikeRoberts]

Top pay, top recruiting budget, top facilities, top history, top fan base, top state talent, top everything but a top coach and performance. This is Ludacris

[Hovadipo]

Top pay, top recruiting budget, top facilities, top history, top fan base, top state talent, top everything but a top coach and performance. This is Ludacris

http://youtu.be/N4C75F4O4BU

[HoosierTrav]

Men's basketball coach salaries, benefits, bonuses paid by university

1. Tom Crean, Indiana - $3,702,559

2. Tom Izzo, Michigan State - $3,530,631

3. Thad Matta, Ohio State - $3,505,565

4. John Beilein, Michigan - $2,873,800

5. Matt Painter, Purdue - $2,458,274

6. Mark Turgeon, Maryland - $2,299,453

7. Tim Miles, Nebraska - $1,887,213

8. John Groce, Illinois - $1,822,604

9. Richard Pitino, Minnesota - $1,605,165

10. Fran McCaffery, Iowa - $1,548,548

11. Eddie Jordan, Rutgers - $1,087,601



Men's basketball recruiting spending

1. Indiana - $716,888

2. Illinois - $431,327

3. Nebraska - $416,096

4. Minnesota - $359,056

5. Iowa - $291,811

6. Michigan State - $256,167

7. Michigan - $234,090

8. Ohio State - $226,226

9. Purdue - $197,206

10. Rutgers - $111,178

11. Maryland - $104,889

Makes me SICK!!!

[bleedhoosier]

So we spent that much for a recruiting class of 2 basically unranked recruits...

[Walking Boot of Doom]

So we spent that much for a recruiting class of 2 basically unranked recruits...

No. It's a 3-4 year investment. What was spent this year was used to recruit kids for 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

So we spent that much for a recruiting class of 2 basically unranked recruits...

Too much airplane expense flying all over the US to repeatedly watch recruits we'll never get.  There are more than enough quality basketball players in IN and the surrounding states.    Small towns like to say 'Shop Local' and I think that's what we should be doing more of in our recruiting. 

[Walking Boot of Doom]

Too much airplane expense flying all over the US to repeatedly watch recruits we'll never get. There are more than enough quality basketball players in IN and the surrounding states. Small towns like to say 'Shop Local' and I think that's what we should be doing more of in our recruiting.

If recruiting just the state was a reliable recruiting strategy, no one in Indiana would be spending money to recruit elsewhere. This state is poached left and right by outsiders, and does not produce enough players to continually fill all recruiting needs.

Crean has done a pretty good job of landing quality in state players. He's also missed on a handful of great players as well.

If we want to be competitive, we need to recruit the best talent out there, and explore all recruiting options.

Plus, if our program generates $25+ million in profit a year, $800k to obtain the players that drive the profit is an excellent investment.

[mamasa]

We've got plenty of Crean coaching, Crean recruiting and info on Crean's salary in the appropriate threads. Please keep this about Alabama rumors.

[HoosierTrav]

You can link.

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A Brief Summary:

*Guy that claims to have a reliable source makes claims that

1.) Archie Miller has reached out and said that if there is a vacancy, he would like to have consideration.
2.) See #1 and replace Miller with Marshall
3.) Brad Stevens has spoken with IU and has interest in the position but was weary about breaking his current contract.
4.) If Crean is going to go, it will have to happen on his own accord. Glass is not moving unless Crean does.

This pretty much sums it up. The guy did say that this could all be Bologna but that the source was someone he trusted and has always been spot on in other rumor mill predictions.

One thing is for certain... Quite a few people are going to forever earn or lose credibility with me and many other Hoosier fans. I'm speaking of the ones who confidently claim to know what's happening. We shall find out who really is in the know.