Bobman1 Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Any articles about him talking to any Hoosiers? Quote
bnkepner Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Any articles about him talking to any Hoosiers? There have been plenty posted on here from Inside the Hall and any other interviews he did at the Mcdonalds stuff this week Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Any articles about him talking to any Hoosiers? I read somewhere yesterday about him talking to JBJ, Yogi and Rojo. ALASKA HOOSIER and CR3AMnCR1MS0N 2 Quote
CR3AMnCR1MS0N Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 I read somewhere yesterday about him talking to JBJ, Yogi and Rojo. There's a video on ITH in which he said something along the lines of knowing James and Rob. Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 I have a feeling that a TB commitment will come at the completion of the DSG tournament. If not, I will worry it may not be IU. Basically, I'm expectingx/hoping for an IU commitment today or tomorrow. Hoosier Roots, GloryDays, Alford Bailey and 4 others 7 Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Wayne, if he doesn't announce shortly after the completion of the tournament, I'd say the next landmark would be when Yogi officially announces about next season. GloryDays and WayneFleekHoosier 2 Quote
GloryDays Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Wayne, if he doesn't announce shortly after the completion of the tournament, I'd say the next landmark would be when Yogi officially announces about next season. Hope we get good news on both fronts.This state of flux is hard on the nerves. Hoosierboy1980, HoosierHoops1 and IUsafety 3 Quote
PointBlank Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Is Bryant really a difference maker for IU? I am not too sure if he will see much of the ball offensively unless he has a stick back. Is he a vast improvement over an experienced HMP? Last year HMP only averaged 4 shots per game and how many of those were a result of his own offensive rebound? In my opinion, Yogi as the PG still does not include his teammates enough and the man down low is not a priority to him. Vonleh averaged 7 shots per game. Zeller naturally averaged more shots, but Yogi wasn't in control as much and Zeller had a much better supporting cast. Bryant is a consensus 4 star (very good) but I do not see him as the missing piece to get us further. He looked ordinary in the McDonalds game and looked good against a team not comprised entirely of McDonald players. Defense at the major college level is one of the hardest things for a player to comprehend and get right. Thon Maker is a different story if he were to come to IU and if they get him the ball. Beachfront Property 1 Quote
Banksyrules Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 1857 posts. Have we reached Mosses Abraham levels yet? I would hate to have this many posts about a guy, only to ditch us in the last second. I hope he announces soon. I really think his decision has a barring on the Tom Crean decision. FortWayneHoosier, WayneFleekHoosier and Alford Bailey 3 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Wayne, if he doesn't announce shortly after the completion of the tournament, I'd say the next landmark would be when Yogi officially announces about next season. Or next week after the pUKe draft announcements are made? Feathery 1 Quote
Five Prime Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Is Bryant really a difference maker for IU? I am not too sure if he will see much of the ball offensively unless he has a stick back. Is he a vast improvement over an experienced HMP? Last year HMP only averaged 4 shots per game and how many of those were a result of his own offensive rebound? In my opinion, Yogi as the PG still does not include his teammates enough and the man down low is not a priority to him. Vonleh averaged 7 shots per game. Zeller naturally averaged more shots, but Yogi wasn't in control as much and Zeller had a much better supporting cast. Bryant is a consensus 4 star (very good) but I do not see him as the missing piece to get us further. He looked ordinary in the McDonalds game and looked good against a team not comprised entirely of McDonald players. Defense at the major college level is one of the hardest things for a player to comprehend and get right. Thon Maker is a different story if he were to come to IU and if they get him the ball. I can't imagine him not being an improvement defensively and rebounding over HMP. We have a gaping hole at the post position barring vast improvement by our current bigs. BGleas, Walking Boot of Doom, Hovadipo and 4 others 7 Quote
mdn82 Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 1857 posts. Have we reached Mosses Abraham levels yet? I would hate to have this many posts about a guy, only to ditch us in the last second. I hope he announces soon. I really think his decision has a barring on the Tom Crean decision.Atleast this dude can bang. Ranger78, southsidehoosier and Banksyrules 3 Quote
IUfan_Charlie Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Is Bryant really a difference maker for IU? I am not too sure if he will see much of the ball offensively unless he has a stick back. Is he a vast improvement over an experienced HMP? Last year HMP only averaged 4 shots per game and how many of those were a result of his own offensive rebound? In my opinion, Yogi as the PG still does not include his teammates enough and the man down low is not a priority to him. Vonleh averaged 7 shots per game. Zeller naturally averaged more shots, but Yogi wasn't in control as much and Zeller had a much better supporting cast. Bryant is a consensus 4 star (very good) but I do not see him as the missing piece to get us further. He looked ordinary in the McDonalds game and looked good against a team not comprised entirely of McDonald players. Defense at the major college level is one of the hardest things for a player to comprehend and get right. Thon Maker is a different story if he were to come to IU and if they get him the ball. So are you saying that you don't want a MCDAA Center on the team? RoderickJaynes, Hoosier Roots, Bobman1 and 4 others 7 Quote
Popular Post truthseeker Posted April 3, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2015 Is Bryant really a difference maker for IU? I am not too sure if he will see much of the ball offensively unless he has a stick back. Is he a vast improvement over an experienced HMP? Last year HMP only averaged 4 shots per game and how many of those were a result of his own offensive rebound? In my opinion, Yogi as the PG still does not include his teammates enough and the man down low is not a priority to him. Vonleh averaged 7 shots per game. Zeller naturally averaged more shots, but Yogi wasn't in control as much and Zeller had a much better supporting cast. Bryant is a consensus 4 star (very good) but I do not see him as the missing piece to get us further. He looked ordinary in the McDonalds game and looked good against a team not comprised entirely of McDonald players. Defense at the major college level is one of the hardest things for a player to comprehend and get right. Thon Maker is a different story if he were to come to IU and if they get him the ball. I'd argue his offensive production is somewhat irrelevant. You can say what you want about Crean (and there is a lot to say) but he is a good offensive coach (I base my opinion on what the numbers say and not aesthetics or preferred style), so the offense is not really an issue. The McDonald's All American point is silly. I don't think his performance in that game matters either way. However, let's compare his performance to Cody's performance in that game: **Zeller - 15 minutes, 10 points (5/6 FG), 3 rebounds **Bryant - 16 minutes, 9 points (4/5 FG), 3 rebounds That said, I still don't think his performance in that game matters. The defense is what matters. The problem with Hanner is his inability to rebound. He is not near the rebounder that Holt or Williams are. That is a problem. The biggest thing that he can do is rebound for us. From what I gather, this is probably where he will help the most in college. As the old adage goes, the defensive possession does not end until the rebound is grabbed. Will a post with actual size solve all of our problems? No, the biggest defensive problem appears to be the perimeter defense at this point, but Bryant will be a big addition. From strictly a size standpoint, he will make it more difficult to just score over the top of him more difficult than what we throw out there at the 5 now (he is already taller and bigger than Hanner). Bobman1, Walking Boot of Doom, HoosierHoops1 and 5 others 8 Quote
PointBlank Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 So are you saying you don't want a MCDAA Center on the team? I didn't say I didn't want him, I am not convinced he is going to immediately provide a missing piece. WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
Beachfront Property Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Is Bryant really a difference maker for IU? I am not too sure if he will see much of the ball offensively unless he has a stick back. Is he a vast improvement over an experienced HMP? Last year HMP only averaged 4 shots per game and how many of those were a result of his own offensive rebound? In my opinion, Yogi as the PG still does not include his teammates enough and the man down low is not a priority to him. Vonleh averaged 7 shots per game. Zeller naturally averaged more shots, but Yogi wasn't in control as much and Zeller had a much better supporting cast. Bryant is a consensus 4 star (very good) but I do not see him as the missing piece to get us further. He looked ordinary in the McDonalds game and looked good against a team not comprised entirely of McDonald players. Defense at the major college level is one of the hardest things for a player to comprehend and get right. Thon Maker is a different story if he were to come to IU and if they get him the ball. Hey, I think you're exactly right. Many people have made Thomas Bryant into some sort of savior, but those expectations are unfair to him. He has the chance to be a very good player at IU. However, he is not going to come in and be Cody or Vonleh. On the defensive end, he can definitely help us but let's not forget that Perea has all the physical tools in the world and still doesn't have a clue how to play defense after 3 years in the program. Quote
PointBlank Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 I'd argue his offensive production is somewhat irrelevant. You can say what you want about Crean (and there is a lot to say) but he is a good offensive coach (I base my opinion on what the numbers say and not aesthetics or preferred style), so the offense is not really an issue. The McDonald's All American point is silly. I don't think his performance in that game matters either way. However, let's compare his performance to Cody's performance in that game: **Zeller - 15 minutes, 10 points (5/6 FG), 3 rebounds **Bryant - 16 minutes, 9 points (4/5 FG), 3 rebounds That said, I still don't think his performance in that game matters. The defense is what matters. The problem with Hanner is his inability to rebound. He is not near the rebounder that Holt or Williams are. That is a problem. The biggest thing that he can do is rebound for us. From what I gather, this is probably where he will help the most in college. As the old adage goes, the defensive possession does not end until the rebound is grabbed. Will a post with actual size solve all of our problems? No, the biggest defensive problem appears to be the perimeter defense at this point, but Bryant will be a big addition. From strictly a size standpoint, he will make it more difficult to just score over the top of him more difficult than what we throw out there at the 5 now (he is already taller and bigger than Hanner). Apples and oranges comparing Zeller and Bryant. Bryant couldn't carry Zeller's jock strap if they played at the same time. Zeller was a much more polished and complete player than Bryant. With the exception of Zeller, how has Crean noticeably developed any other IU center offensively? Some would argue even Zeller didn't progress as much offensively under Crean's system as expected. Quote
Alford Bailey Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 Apples and oranges comparing Zeller and Bryant. Bryant couldn't carry Zeller's jock strap if they played at the same time. Zeller was a much more polished and complete player than Bryant. With the exception of Zeller, how has Crean noticeably developed any other IU center offensively? Some would argue even Zeller didn't progress as much offensively under Crean's system as expected. You are right. We need to ease up a little on expectations of Bryant next year. Ranger78 1 Quote
Hoosier Roots Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 You are right. We need to ease up a little on expectations of Bryant next year. I don't see any reason why he couldn't be that good. Quote
Bryan Medema Posted April 3, 2015 Posted April 3, 2015 I don't see any reason why he couldn't be that good. He's a (soon to be) Frosh post player. There's a possible reason Quote
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