College Bball Thread

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I think this idea of the NCAA doing with Basketball with how the College Hockey Athletes use the NHL Draft and then decide if they are going to stay in school is interesting.

The main drawback would be unsettled rosters in June, but I believe they would adapt well

 

 

 

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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

I think this idea of the NCAA doing with Basketball with how the College Hockey Athletes use the NHL Draft and then decide if they are going to stay in school is interesting.
The main drawback would be unsettled rosters in June, but I believe they would adapt well
 
 

 
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It should be pretty simple. Declare by a week after the national title game. If you declare, you lose your eligibility. You’re an adult. Make a decision and deal with the consequences.


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[Brass Cannon]

46 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

It should be pretty simple. Declare by a week after the national title game. If you declare, you lose your eligibility. You’re an adult. Make a decision and deal with the consequences.


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Yeah because that’s totally how the real world works. 

[jk34]

2 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

It should be pretty simple. Declare by a week after the national title game. If you declare, you lose your eligibility. You’re an adult. Make a decision and deal with the consequences.


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Not even close!

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Yeah because that’s totally how the real world works. 

It is. But let’s keep coddling them all because that’s what has happened their entire lives as they fail to set themselves up for the future because daddy is telling them they’re are the best since sliced bread.


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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

It is. But let’s keep coddling them all because that’s what has happened their entire lives as they fail to set themselves up for the future because daddy is telling them they’re are the best since sliced bread.


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Just basketball? Or every Sport that allows the players to decide after they get drafted?

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[Brass Cannon]

27 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

It is. But let’s keep coddling them all because that’s what has happened their entire lives as they fail to set themselves up for the future because daddy is telling them they’re are the best since sliced bread.


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It is?  Because I most assuredly quit a job once for another then realized I made a mistake and was able to stay at my old job. 
 

There’s nothing immature about realizing you have made a mistake with a decision and trying to go back to the status quo 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Just basketball? Or every Sport that allows the players to decide after they get drafted?

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Is there is a big difference between going from college basketball to the NBA and trying to go pro from college into hockey, football or baseball. Basketball is incredibly hard to go pro in. As in like a 1 in 11000 chance. The other sports aren’t even close. It would actually protect players even more so than rules would now.


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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

It is?  Because I most assuredly quit a job once for another then realized I made a mistake and was able to stay at my old job. 
 
There’s nothing immature about realizing you have made a mistake with a decision and trying to go back to the status quo 

Maybe they should learn to think things through, look through possibilities of things that could happen, pros and cons, is going undrafted really worth leaving? Is the 2nd round worth leaving early for when I’ll go in the 2nd round any year? Maybe I could come back and go from undrafted to 2nd round. How much does it cost to live here or there. How much does an agent cost. How good will my team be if I return? Well this team says they are i interested in me but what’s other 20 guys are they interested in?


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[Brass Cannon]

23 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Maybe they should learn to think things through, look through possibilities of things that could happen, pros and cons, is going undrafted really worth leaving? Is the 2nd round worth leaving early for when I’ll go in the 2nd round any year? Maybe I could come back and go from undrafted to 2nd round. How much does it cost to live here or there. How much does an agent cost. How good will my team be if I return? Well this team says they are i interested in me but what’s other 20 guys are they interested in?


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Ok once again admitting you made a mistake is not a sign of immaturity.  
 

And not making somebody suffer for a mistake is a sign of maturity. 
 

 

[CS2]

A G league that pays well is the right answer and solves 90% of the issues discussed here.  Give kids who are not interested or ready for college a chance to go pro and not make a mockery of the university process.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

A G league that pays well is the right answer and solves 90% of the issues discussed here.  Give kids who are not interested or ready for college a chance to go pro and not make a mockery of the university process.

I believe the NBA was waiting on all 30 teams to get a G-League team. I think they want a legitimate farm system. And it’s a good idea. Personally I’d love to see there be a type of D-2(G-League) and a D-3 under the G-League. Maybe D-3 players get paid in the 50-75K range and have the ability to work up. Kinda like in baseball. There are a lot of basketball players out there.


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[CS2]

2 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I believe the NBA was waiting on all 30 teams to get a G-League team. I think they want a legitimate farm system. And it’s a good idea. Personally I’d love to see there be a type of D-2(G-League) and a D-3 under the G-League. Maybe D-3 players get paid in the 50-75K range and have the ability to work up. Kinda like in baseball. There are a lot of basketball players out there.


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Yes, this accomplishes many things.

Gives even more young players a chance to develop and live out their dream before moving on.  So many baseball players have benefitted from this.   And it doesn't feed the mockery of college academic standards.

[mdn82]

I wonder how much owners who are businessmen mind losing money on these things. That will determine how much they pay players to play against prospects. Hopefully they learn from MLBs mistakes. MLB is close to closing half of their minor league systems down.


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[Brass Cannon]

11 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

I wonder how much owners who are businessmen mind losing money on these things. That will determine how much they pay players to play against prospects. Hopefully they learn from MLBs mistakes. MLB is close to closing half of their minor league systems down.


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I’ve always wondered how much benefit the minor leagues really are.  Figured one minor league team makes sense. Having multiple levels never did. 
 

Maybe back in the day when baseball was king but not nowadays. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

I wonder how much owners who are businessmen mind losing money on these things. That will determine how much they pay players to play against prospects. Hopefully they learn from MLBs mistakes. MLB is close to closing half of their minor league systems down.


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It would be a lot different for basketball. A team would be paying 40 players for all 3 levels compared to how many for the baseball systems?


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

I can tell you one thing. The Fort Wayne Mad Ants struggle to park butts in the seats. The Fort Wayne Komets (hockey) nearly quadruples the attendance. The Fort Wayne Tin Caps (baseball) does great based off of atmosphere, beer nights, extracurricular, nice field, etc. BUT with the backing from the Pacers, if it is beneficial enough to them to back a farm team it makes sense when you consider the NBA payroll. The Mad Ants put on a pretty good show, but the interest and money from the fans will never be there.


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[mdn82]

It would be a lot different for basketball. A team would be paying 40 players for all 3 levels compared to how many for the baseball systems?


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There are so many variables it is not worth going down a rabbit hole you don’t know exists when discussing Minor League Baseball. Just know the G league doesn’t draw. Minor league baseball does exponentially more. Fort Wayne has both. Almost 6k attendance for baseball over 140 games. Basketball? Under 2k in 50 games. Baseball pays that level on average $290 a week. It’s going up to around $500 and that’s why they might get down to the 3 or 4 levels. Arenas cost more to maintain than a baseball diamond. So there are variable levels to minors and pay. Just know there are around 250 minor leaguers getting paid in the course of a season. No matter what your salary for the minors is under $2 million. G league at $50k per for 30 players assuming that was an average? $1.5 million. So something that has 90 less games and draws exponentially less will be able to do that? I know you never look at the business side of things. But there is a reason owners are rich and it’s not because they make stupid decisions to make everyone else’s experience better in a years. Your wage idea along with massively growing the g league is not a viable business option. Again Major League Baseball will massively shrink their minor league systems due to the expenses associated with all of these affiliates.


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[HoosierTrav]

2 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I can tell you one thing. The Fort Wayne Mad Ants struggle to park butts in the seats. The Fort Wayne Komets (hockey) nearly quadruples the attendance. The Fort Wayne Tin Caps (baseball) does great based off of atmosphere, beer nights, extracurricular, nice field, etc. BUT with the backing from the Pacers, if it is beneficial enough to them to back a farm team it makes sense when you consider the NBA payroll. The Mad Ants put on a pretty good show, but the interest and money from the fans will never be there.


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Agreed. The Fort Wayne Fury had trouble putting fans in the seats as well. Even when Master P played for the team. Lol.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Agreed. The Fort Wayne Fury had trouble putting fans in the seats as well. Even when Master P played for the team. Lol.

Those were my days. Everyone had it narrowed down to which hotel he was stationed at. Ughh, Na Na na na !

 

 

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