MikeRoberts Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 Such a weak conference. Our SOS is just going to kill us. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appHow do those ranked teams SOS look compared to ours? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
MikeRoberts Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 How do those ranked teams SOS look compared to ours? We are 14/14 teams in the bigten and it’s not even close. Are people wrong to bring up, complain about our digusting SOS?All 13 of those teams that have played a tougher schedule all play in the bigten and have to go through the gauntlet tooSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Iugradman 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 How do those ranked teams SOS look compared to ours? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appTexas Tech has 164 SOS with 3 losses. We are 134 with 1 loss. They have 3 losses against top 60 teams using RPI while beating Louisville. 5 of the 7 wins beyond UL were RPi 269 or worse. They have 2 wins in the 125-140 range. We have 6 wins from 169 to 215. Win against 8 and 85 while losing to 63. Just using RPI because I am lazy and it was right there. Ranking wise others may have them different but not that much. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
NOLA Hoosier Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 IU goes 12-1 and beats Arkansas I could maybe see them cracking the 25, but I still have doubts. It’s gonna take at least a couple conference wins. I’m personally fine with that. Quote
MikeRoberts Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 IU goes 12-1 and beats Arkansas I could maybe see them cracking the 25, but I still have doubts. It’s gonna take at least a couple conference wins. I’m personally fine with that.We will of course get tested in bigten play but no reason to have the weakest SOS in the entire conference. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Josh 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appActually we have the toughest road in the B1G. Not all schedules are created equal. We actually have the toughest schedule in America from here on out. Sure, anybody is allowed to complain about it. I don’t know if that was rhetorical but I have never said anything about this. But I did respond to your first question where you quoted me. I wasn’t sure if you were asking me the rest of this or if it was rhetorical. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Chips&Dipo Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 At what point should teams stop being rewarded for having a tougher SOS if they are losing against tougher opponents? At the end of the day, IU has beaten everyone besides a bad showing AT Madison. There are teams that are ranked that have far worse loses than that. Look at Virginia. Who the hell have they beaten that warrants them to be ranked where they are? They have loses to Purdue (at Mackey, but Purdue doesn't look very good) and South Carolina (AT HOME). There only "good" wins are against a historically bad Syracuse and North Carolina. cthomas and Stuhoo 2 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 Actually we have the toughest road in the B1G. Not all schedules are created equal. We actually have the toughest schedule in America from here on out. Sure, anybody is allowed to complain about it. I don’t know if that was rhetorical but I have never said anything about this. But I did respond to your first question where you quoted me. I wasn’t sure if you were asking me the rest of this or if it was rhetorical. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI asked because I was curious and believed all the ranked bigten teams had a tougher SOS and then didn’t wait for a reply and looked it up, only to find it was way worse than I thought and that our SOS is worst in the conference by far, only Northwestern being in the same ball park.The schedules in bigten play are different but nowhere near as contrasting as the out of conference schedules. I can’t imagine we end up moving too far out of that cellar position Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app mdn82 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 I asked because I was curious and believed all the ranked bigten teams had a tougher SOS and then didn’t wait for a reply and looked it up, only to find it was way worse than I thought and that our SOS is worst in the conference by far, only Northwestern being in the same ball park.The schedules in bigten play are different but nowhere near as contrasting as the out of conference schedules. I can’t imagine we end up moving too far out of that cellar position Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appFor sure. It will change a little as teams will fluctuate based on their play. I imagine we will end up close to 40-50 in the nation. Northwestern and us will be very close. They may end up behind us. Maybe Nebraska? But I wouldn’t think anyone other than that. Like if we ended up with 5 losses overall our SOS will not hurt us from getting a top seed if that’s what we are worried about. We won’t get 5 losses but I just wanted to illustrate our SOS will not hamper us for things that will matter.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 At what point should teams stop being rewarded for having a tougher SOS if they are losing against tougher opponents? At the end of the day, IU has beaten everyone besides a bad showing AT Madison. There are teams that are ranked that have far worse loses than that. Look at Virginia. Who the hell have they beaten that warrants them to be ranked where they are? They have loses to Purdue (at Mackey, but Purdue doesn't look very good) and South Carolina (AT HOME). There only "good" wins are against a historically bad Syracuse and North Carolina. Because of the name on the jersey. They really haven’t looked great at all. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Popular Post Stuhoo Posted December 23, 2019 Popular Post Posted December 23, 2019 Us being unranked at this point is absolute horsesh!t. VO5, Blackmon_for_3, MoyeNeeded and 7 others 9 1 Quote
LamarCheeks Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 46 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Us being unranked at this point is absolute horsesh!t. Not sure I understand not being ranked, but it doesn't bother me a whole lot. ... What completely flummoxes me is PU getting more votes than us in the coaches poll. That makes absolutely no sense to me. Quote
HoosierAloha Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 Us being unranked at this point is absolute horsesh!t. I feel like pollsters are waiting for the collapse. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Josh, Alford Bailey and mdn82 3 Quote
NOLA Hoosier Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said: I feel like pollsters are waiting for the collapse. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I can’t say I blame them at all, judging from going ranked last year to our nearly unprecedented losing streak. They’re hesitant to rank us, and frankly so am I. WayneFleekHoosier, Josh and 8bucks 3 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 Combination of a weak non con and the collapse last year are probably working against us. Class of '66 Old Fart, Iugradman, MikeRoberts and 1 other 4 Quote
Ranger78 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 A lot of people are complaining about SOS and the complaints have some merit. I personally think it was smart with the make up of this team. I’m not sure how it works out and I’m not sure it prepared us enough for the grinds of the BIG10, but I think it gives us the best shot to make the tournament. Coach needs small victories (like making the tournament) to continue to build his program. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Alford Bailey, Hoosier Roots, HoosierDYT and 4 others 6 1 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 Combination of a weak non con and the collapse last year are probably working against us.And an untimely curb stomping from Wisconsin. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Popular Post cthomas Posted December 24, 2019 Popular Post Posted December 24, 2019 44 minutes ago, Ranger78 said: A lot of people are complaining about SOS and the complaints have some merit. I personally think it was smart with the make up of this team. I’m not sure how it works out and I’m not sure it prepared us enough for the grinds of the BIG10, but I think it gives us the best shot to make the tournament. Coach needs small victories (like making the tournament) to continue to build his program. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Exactly. After what we've been through the last few years we are not jumping into the deep end of the pool. I really like the kids on this team and that has not always been the case. They are all easy to root for. Are they the most talented? No. But I like them. I like how we have won ugly with different kids stepping up. I like how they seem to support each other. Maybe they won't take us where we want to go, but I would rather hang with these guys than a bunch of kids just using IU to showcase their skills for the next level. Call me a dinosaur, but student-athlete still means something to me. These kids seem like student-athletes. If you read Anderson's comments before the Crossroads about how he learned he had to get better and grind every day, how can anyone not want him on our team representing our university. He didn't transfer, he went to work, and it shows. I'm old and not impatient and am willing to let it play out and let the kids develop. Maybe, probably, they won't hang banner number six, but I'll take them ten times out ten over what UK, Duke and the other OAD factories put on the floor. Winning is important, but how it's done is more important to me. jk34, Class of '66 Old Fart, Ranger78 and 6 others 9 Quote
rcbowla Posted December 24, 2019 Posted December 24, 2019 And an untimely curb stomping from Wisconsin. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI'd say this is the biggest factor in their determination. That and not looking good in the following wins.Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk Loaded Chicken Sandwich 1 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted December 24, 2019 Posted December 24, 2019 A lot of people are complaining about SOS and the complaints have some merit. I personally think it was smart with the make up of this team. I’m not sure how it works out and I’m not sure it prepared us enough for the grinds of the BIG10, but I think it gives us the best shot to make the tournament. Coach needs small victories (like making the tournament) to continue to build his program. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersI think this has a bit to do with it. I also think it has to do with perspective. In two games against ACC opponents, ESPN has mentioned it. In the Notre Dame game it came up just once. Although IU has a much stronger SOS than Notre Dame. Against FSU, it was pretty much every other comment. Don’t get it twisted, the noncon SOS isn’t good by any stretch. But...La Tech - Quad 3 (fringe 2)FSU - Quad 1 UConn - Quad 2Notre Dame - Quad 3 (fringe 2)Arkansas - Quad 2 gameThen the grind starts..Opponent - NET (Home) AwayNeb - 178 (quad 4) quad 3Wiscy - 45 (quad 2) quad 1Maryland - 20 (quad 1) quad 1Northwestern - 143 (quad 3)O$U - 2 (quad 1) quad 1Rutgers - 39 quad 1MSU - 22 (quad 1)Penn St. 18 (quad 1) quad 1pu - 47 (quad 2) quad 1Iowa - 26 (quad 2)Michigan - 16 quad 1Minny - 28 (quad 2) quad 1Ill- 41 quad 1Conference games only:Quad 1 - 13Quad 2 - 4Quad 3 - 2Quad 4 - 1The noncon SOS will have zero effect on whether we make the tourney or stay home. Our ability to win enough conference games and not have a bad conference loss will be the determining factor in us dancing. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app woodenshoemanHoosierfan, Class of '66 Old Fart, HinnyHoosier and 4 others 7 Quote
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