College Bball Thread

[yogisballin]

I hate the polls. Marquette at 21 after that win at home to I think an overrated Wisky bunch. And we come in with a 3 way tie at 25? Just doesn’t make sense


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[Ranger78]

54 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/sports/columnists/graham-couch/2018/12/10/graham-couch-ap-top-25-college-basketball-ballot-why-duke-kansas-tennessee-didnt-make/2264942002/

Interesting explanation.

I don't agree with him, but I like his explanation and give him props for explaining it so clearly. And I respect that he actually has a method to his madness. I do agree with him that a 'road' win should weigh a lot more into the equation.

[Deserthoozier]

18 hours ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Carsen is legit. Don't see the hate on him. He has to shoot that much because they have nothing around him...hence more turnovers. Eastern is a bust so far. I think Haarms is nothing more than a role player. Future not looking good in West Lafayette. Painter couldn't get past the Sweet 16 with that "great" senior class and Swanigan the last few years. If they miss the NCAA's this year he could be on the hot seat going into next season. Archie stealing the in-state kids is hurting him. Hunter, Gillis, and Thompson are probably role players at IU (like Damezi or Jake). PU is expecting them to get major minutes from day 1. I think stealing Rob from them was huge and isn't talked about enough. He is left with the scraps except for Newman. I think he could be really good. 

Seems to me that he is ‘meeting expectations’ there! ; )

[tyappleg]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/sports/columnists/graham-couch/2018/12/10/graham-couch-ap-top-25-college-basketball-ballot-why-duke-kansas-tennessee-didnt-make/2264942002/

Interesting explanation.

It's still dumb.  He's just doing it for the site clicks. If he was serious, he would just rank them lower based on that criteria.  It's ridiculous not to have Duke, Tenn, Kansas, etc. ranked at all. 

[Str8Hoosiers]

I am happy he did this, otherwise we wouldn't be ranked... and for those of us who care about that I say thank you to Mr Couch!

[Hoosierfan2017]

28 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

It's still dumb.  He's just doing it for the site clicks. If he was serious, he would just rank them lower based on that criteria.  It's ridiculous not to have Duke, Tenn, Kansas, etc. ranked at all. 

Bingo. Dude just wants attention. 

[Uspshoosier]

I'm sure there is some kind of analysis out there on the forum about the NET, so I won't reinvent the wheel, but I just did some analysis of IU's schedule as compared to the NET Rankings and RPI. As most folks know, wins are now broken down into 4 quadrants based on the RPI Rankings which are in parenthesis (released this morning) and whether it was a home, road, or neutral court.
Quadrant 1 and 2 wins are really the only ones that matter. Butler, at Michigan, at Maryland, and vs Nebraska are Indiana's next chances at Q1 wins. Based on how the non-conference schedule played out, getting Q1 wins in the Big Ten is going to be VERY important. Until then, IU will have to continue beating up on inferior talent. 
Quadrant 1 wins:
Marquette (19)
Quadrant 2 wins:
@ Penn State (78)
Louisville (33)
*Note - These rankings WILL change during the season as teams continue to play out their schedule.

They actually have 2 Quad 1 wins and 2 Quad 2 wins
Marquette (22), Louisville(19) are Quad 1
Penn st and Northwestern are Quad 2
Here is the Net rankings through Dec 9th
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings


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[LIHoosier]

This probably has its own thread in the catacombs of the site...but Happy Birthday WatShot!

 

[Uspshoosier]

Slim pickens on games this week until Saturday. 🤢


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[Southside]

[Southside]

IU now 25 in the AP.

A little, actually a lot confused why a 2 loss Marquette who we beat, and a 2 loss Wisconsin (who Marq beat) are ranked ahead of us.

[biteoftheapple]

IU now 25 in the AP.
A little, actually a lot confused why a 2 loss Marquette who we beat, and a 2 loss Wisconsin (who Marq beat) are ranked ahead of us.

The voters must have read the game thread and could see how bad the team is

[HoosierAloha]

They actually have 2 Quad 1 wins and 2 Quad 2 wins
Marquette (22), Louisville(19) are Quad 1
Penn st and Northwestern are Quad 2
Here is the Net rankings through Dec 9th
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings


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Would Butler be a quad 1 win? It's 1-25 at home, 1-50 neutral, and 1-75 away?


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[Southside]

10 minutes ago, biteoftheapple said:

17 minutes ago, Irish YJ said:

IU now 25 in the AP.
A little, actually a lot confused why a 2 loss Marquette who we beat, and a 2 loss Wisconsin (who Marq beat) are ranked ahead of us.

The voters must have read the game thread and could see how bad the team is

lol.... if they had read the game thread, they would have believed we're 0-3 over the last 3 games, and would have left us out altogether...

but maybe you're right, and saw the comment about our 23 pt thumping of Marquette as nothing more than an "aberration"

[yogisballin]

It's still dumb.  He's just doing it for the site clicks. If he was serious, he would just rank them lower based on that criteria.  It's ridiculous not to have Duke, Tenn, Kansas, etc. ranked at all. 

He on crack too! Iowa 13th?


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[Uspshoosier]

Would Butler be a quad 1 win? It's 1-25 at home, 1-50 neutral, and 1-75 away?


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Yes it would. Penn st is close to 75 as well I think they are 81 right now.


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[Baltimore Hoosier]

They actually have 2 Quad 1 wins and 2 Quad 2 wins
Marquette (22), Louisville(19) are Quad 1
Penn st and Northwestern are Quad 2
Here is the Net rankings through Dec 9th
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings


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You’re absolutely right.. I was looking at RPI, not NET. That was dumb.


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[HoosierAloha]

Yes it would. Penn st is close to 75 as well I think they are 81 right now.


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Sooo if we can beat Butler on Saturday IU would be 3-2 in quad 1 noncon games... not too shabby.


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[HoosierFan1994]

1 hour ago, Irish YJ said:

lol.... if they had read the game thread, they would have believed we're 0-3 over the last 3 games, and would have left us out altogether...

but maybe you're right, and saw the comment about our 23 pt thumping of Marquette as nothing more than an "aberration"

Plus they have Duke over Gonzaga...

[Uspshoosier]

https://www.insidethehall.com/2018/12/10/news-and-notes-from-archie-millers-radio-show-17/


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