Fire Darian DeVries? Lol

[coonhounds]

I feel like its way to early to come to a fire scenario until next season but so far the concerns are to far to list. I will touch on a couple of my personal ones. The team he assembled is just flawed. He said after the michigan beat down he was proud of the way the guys played. That may be true but at iu basketball that just isn't going to cut it imo. The team is also showing signs of defeat that is also not good. However watching cig post championship comments i have concerns on the commitment he is getting from the administration.  I mean cig said focus is on football now and basketball to lol. I will say I doubt iu can stay that high level of football imo. I hope but it's tough.  Why cant basketball be a top focus as well? I mean it shouldn't be to hard

[IUCrazy2]

On 1/21/2026 at 11:03 AM, pumpfake said:

Ultimately it's looking like we might have had much more success over the past 10 years if we had hired Alford. Hard to admit as someone who has always opposed it. 

This is all water under the bridge but he should have been the hire when the decision was made to hire an "IU guy" and see how it goes.  Whenever people used to talk about doing that, I feel he was the guy they wanted.  Nobody had Woodson on that list except Quinn and Ferguson.

Outside of that, Devries isn't getting canned.  Anyone already on that train needs to push away from the table and just wait until things look like they are turning around.  I don't think the fans are to blame but having a thread like this get out into the media in year one (and they do watch this place) just makes us look stupid.

[coonhounds]

There is no time in this today's world college basketball to look as poor as we have. I hope he only gets two years here. I hope he gets the financial support to try next season to have a competitive team so he can show if he can coach or not

[maxwell]

19 minutes ago, BGleas said:

With that said, that makes the next question, 'why could he and the staff recruit a legit big'?

That's the issue. How come we couldn't recruit better with our resources? That also makes me concerned for next season since we have to recruit an entire new team. 

I don't have a good explanation to this.  I'm believe we lost out on recruits in the mist of putting together a staff. The challenges seemed to snowball in terms of recruiting both players and coaches.  I'm trying to be patient in this area, but I'm struggling to understand why we are not moving without the ball during periods of picking up 5 second calls.  It seems to me that the quantity and quality of crisp cuts without the ball should not be affected by the quality or size of players.  It should be a freaking baseline of attitude and effort you bring when you put on the uniform.

[spe317]

8 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

This is all water under the bridge but he should have been the hire when the decision was made to hire an "IU guy" and see how it goes.  Whenever people used to talk about doing that, I feel he was the guy they wanted.  Nobody had Woodson on that list except Quinn and Ferguson.

Outside of that, Devries isn't getting canned.  Anyone already on that train needs to push away from the table and just wait until things look like they are turning around.  I don't think the fans are to blame but having a thread like this get out into the media in year one (and they do watch this place) just makes us look stupid.

I really think this is more of a group therapy session. And affordable at that! 
 

The world has changed around us in pretty much everything. Basketball is changing—whether for the better or worse. The only one qualified to speak on that front is his holiness, USPS. 

I don’t think anyone would fire Devries today  but it sure would be nice to see a winning basketball team  

 

[coonhounds]

9 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

This is all water under the bridge but he should have been the hire when the decision was made to hire an "IU guy" and see how it goes.  Whenever people used to talk about doing that, I feel he was the guy they wanted.  Nobody had Woodson on that list except Quinn and Ferguson.

Outside of that, Devries isn't getting canned.  Anyone already on that train needs to push away from the table and just wait until things look like they are turning around.  I don't think the fans are to blame but having a thread like this get out into the media in year one (and they do watch this place) just makes us look stupid.

It does not make us look stupid.  You can literally buy your team. We are getting beat by new coaches that we could have hired. We look like total trash on the court. Time will tell but right now nothing to support him currently 

[coonhounds]

I was totally supportive of Archie for his first two seasons and most of his third. I thought he would find his way and be successful.  I was supportive of woodson at first. This is a totally different world of basketball imo and the way we look is concerning.  Same way cig would look at football if he didn't walk in day 1 and start beating everyone's @$$ immediately with a overlooked team in a sport that is insanely more difficult to win at the highest level imo

[8bucks]

48 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Sounded like the administration wanted a full reboot when they moved on from the old coach 

This is correct. A friends son was manager who could have come back, wanted to, but is not back. He was recognized as an all American manager even but they cleaned house up and down.  It did seem a couple players explored getting an extra year from the ncaa and I guess they may have come back but both were unsuccessful in that. 

[IUCrazy2]

22 minutes ago, spe317 said:

I really think this is more of a group therapy session. And affordable at that! 
 

The world has changed around us in pretty much everything. Basketball is changing—whether for the better or worse. The only one qualified to speak on that front is his holiness, USPS. 

I don’t think anyone would fire Devries today  but it sure would be nice to see a winning basketball team  

 

Oh, don't get me wrong, this basketball season has been totally deflating.  Thank God football has been historically awesome the past two years because without that it would be bleak around here.  I miss college basketball as my interest level in it just isn't the same when Indiana isn't any good.  So my approach this go around is going to be to hold it all at arm's length unless/until it looks like the program is turning the corner.  I won't be a fan that can be blamed for caring too much and being too vociferous this time around.  A bad product will be met with apathy.  That empty hall has been sold as preferable to threads like this.  I just don't want to be part of the cop out from the school this time.  

He has 4 years.  They always do. He and the school are going to sink or swim on their own.  The basketball program has been hot garbage for the better part of almost 3 decades now.  It should be getting the pre-Cignetti IU football treatment at this point.  I will come back fully when it looks like things are turned around.  Until then, I tune in when it fits my schedule and I am early to pull the plug when it looks like things are going **** up.

[IUCrazy2]

28 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

It does not make us look stupid.  You can literally buy your team. We are getting beat by new coaches that we could have hired. We look like total trash on the court. Time will tell but right now nothing to support him currently 

Then don't support it.  Ignore it.  I don't totally buy the argument but threads like this get pointed to as "crazy fans hold the program back" and that ends up being the narrative that leaks out to people who don't pay attention.  "Those IU fans are too harsh, they harass their own coaches and players...."  So that becomes the narrative people hear about us.  They aren't getting that from me this go around and frankly I disagree, a "Fire the Coach" thread halfway through year one is extremely reactionary and stupid IMO.

[Napleshoosier]

This is all silly!  Like over the top!  Cool it guys.  It’s f’n nuts.  Go Hoosiers!

[Home Jersey]

20 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Then don't support it.  Ignore it.  I don't totally buy the argument but threads like this get pointed to as "crazy fans hold the program back" and that ends up being the narrative that leaks out to people who don't pay attention.  "Those IU fans are too harsh, they harass their own coaches and players...."  So that becomes the narrative people hear about us.  They aren't getting that from me this go around and frankly I disagree, a "Fire the Coach" thread halfway through year one is extremely reactionary and stupid IMO.

People who are quick to completely dismiss comments from former players about what it's like to play at IU are not ready for this conversation lol 

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, maxwell said:

I don't have a good explanation to this.  I'm believe we lost out on recruits in the mist of putting together a staff. The challenges seemed to snowball in terms of recruiting both players and coaches.  I'm trying to be patient in this area, but I'm struggling to understand why we are not moving without the ball during periods of picking up 5 second calls.  It seems to me that the quantity and quality of crisp cuts without the ball should not be affected by the quality or size of players.  It should be a freaking baseline of attitude and effort you bring when you put on the uniform.

With a less talented roster, this becomes even more important.  Why it isn’t done is simply baffling.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

People who are quick to completely dismiss comments from former players about what it's like to play at IU are not ready for this conversation lol 

Coming from a bunch of players and coaches who haven’t won anything.  And have underperformed projected metrics for about 9 straight years.  Have given us not 1 enjoyable year as fans.  It’s hard on them and it’s hard on us.  Nobody wants to lose.  Nobody wants to be the reason to lose.  Blame someone else.  Woodson was the master of turning against the fans.  And his players are going to follow suit because you know it’s all they talked about behind the scenes.  If we get an over performing team one of these days our fanbase will again be the best ever.  But the effort, attitude, and results hasn’t been there for decades.  
 

Getva coach who is confident and focused on the right things.  Get players who are confident, capable, and focused on the right things and become a respectable program again. 

Edited yesterday at 05:00 AM by WayneFleekHoosier

[Home Jersey]

7 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Coming from a bunch of players and coaches who haven’t won anything.  And have underperformed projected metrics for about 9 straight years.  Have given us not 1 enjoyable year as fans.  It’s hard on them and it’s hard on us.  Nobody wants to lose.  Nobody wants to be the reason to lose.  Blame someone else.  Woodson was the master of turning against the fans.  And his players are going to follow suit because you know it’s all they talked about behind the scenes.  If we get an over performing team one of these days our fanbase will again be the best ever.  But the effort, attitude, and results hasn’t been there for decades.  
 

Getva coach who is confident and focused on the right things.  Get players who are confident, capable, and focused on the right things and become a respectable program again. 

I think we can agree that vibes matter, right? Woody's vibes were especially terrible and did a lot of damage to much of the IUBB fanbase imo. 

The majority of the blame certainly is on the AD/coaches we've had here. We don't directly affect what happens on the court. However; 

IUBB has essentially been pre-Cig IUFB for the entire lifetime of all the players coming up right now. Yet, fan expectations are still largely shaped by the Knight era standards.

All the "bad" stuff IU fans do, happens at other schools with hungry fanbases too. This is true. At the end of the day, a university is a community and if you don't feel like the community has your back through the highs and lows, you're probably going to look out for yourself. And it's hard to blame them for that.

We are just like most mediocre power conference programs now. There's nothing special about playing basketball for Indiana in 2026. If we can't tolerate anything less than instant success, the vibes will continue to be terrible around the program.

That doesn't mean tolerate 4 years of bad basketball. It's not our call to make anyway as fans. All we can contribute toward are the vibes. And I think a new staff is owed positive vibes from the university community until they've proven they don't deserve them. DDV made mistakes with this team, that doesn't mean we should **** on everything he and the program does because we're upset they're not meeting the standard yet. That said, the forums are definitely the place for venting about that. Not in players mentions on Twitter or IG comments lol. It's better to say nothing at all than pop off with frustration aimed at players IMO.

[str8baller]

10 hours ago, BGleas said:

DeVries made several comments in the off-season saying that our 5 spot and rim protection were a concern and something they were going to need to figure out scheming around. 

It's not like hes a moron that didn't realize you need size in the Big Ten. 

Yet, he’s been unable to scheme around it. And it started before B1G play.  
 

I’m sure he’s a talented Xs and Os guy. But getting that conveyed to the players on the floor is also a coaching skill. It’s not happening with this team. There are definitely coaches/teams/systems that can free up shooters without a big. Yet the first time Bailey slips a screen and misses the layup we abandoned it for a while and our guys look like they’re stuck in mud on the perimeter.  
 

I think the roster excuse has covered up for some bad coaching, too. There are more things that need fixed next year than just the roster. 

[str8baller]

9 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

People who are quick to completely dismiss comments from former players about what it's like to play at IU are not ready for this conversation lol 

I’ve been reading comments all week about what a wonderful special place IU is to play and how the fans are some of the best in the world.  
 

Of course, those comments were coming from football players. Who should we listen to: national champion football players or a bunch of Woody cast-offs? 

[Home Jersey]

Just now, str8baller said:

I’ve been reading comments all week about what a wonderful special place IU is to play and how the fans are some of the best in the world.  
 

Of course, those comments were coming from football players. Who should we listen to: national champion football players or a bunch of Woody cast-offs? 

Football and basketball program are in two completely different stratospheres right now. Obviously fans gush over a winner. 

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

I think we can agree that vibes matter, right? Woody's vibes were especially terrible and did a lot of damage to much of the IUBB fanbase imo. 

The majority of the blame certainly is on the AD/coaches we've had here. We don't directly affect what happens on the court. However; 

IUBB has essentially been pre-Cig IUFB for the entire lifetime of all the players coming up right now. Yet, fan expectations are still largely shaped by the Knight era standards.

All the "bad" stuff IU fans do, happens at other schools with hungry fanbases too. This is true. At the end of the day, a university is a community and if you don't feel like the community has your back through the highs and lows, you're probably going to look out for yourself. And it's hard to blame them for that.

We are just like most mediocre power conference programs now. There's nothing special about playing basketball for Indiana in 2026. If we can't tolerate anything less than instant success, the vibes will continue to be terrible around the program.

That doesn't mean tolerate 4 years of bad basketball. It's not our call to make anyway as fans. All we can contribute toward are the vibes. And I think a new staff is owed positive vibes from the university community until they've proven they don't deserve them. DDV made mistakes with this team, that doesn't mean we should **** on everything he and the program does because we're upset they're not meeting the standard yet. That said, the forums are definitely the place for venting about that. Not in players mentions on Twitter or IG comments lol. It's better to say nothing at all than pop off with frustration aimed at players IMO.

What is this mythical standard you refer to?   At least compete against a similarly crappy Iowa team at home?   

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

What is this mythical standard you refer to?   At least compete against a similarly crappy Iowa team at home?   

They were rightfully booed going into halftime against Iowa IIRC.

The Crean era is a better illustration of the "mythical," as you put it, standard that IU fans erroneously cling to. Don't feel like cracking that can of worms right now since it's basically been 10 years already. It is what it is. Buckle up and enjoy 2-3 more seasons of DDV at least, fellas :)