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2025 NCAA Mens Basketball Tournament Discussion

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Not sure if anyone was up late enough to see it, but there were four reviews in the last two minutes between Arizona and Oregon. Two of them occurred just 2 seconds apart (review, inbounds pass knocked out of bounds, another review). Oregon was out of timeouts at the two-minute mark, so I'm sure they appreciated the additional four timeouts. 

 

With 8 minutes left, it was 11:35 p.m. The game officially ended at 12:17. 

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Just now, AZ Hoosier said:

Glad to see that you're at least giving Darian DeVries a chance... 

He might turn out to be great coach. But this hire is a huge gamble. Why pay $6 million for a buyout to a coach that has won one play in game when you have a proven winner in beard who would also be cheaper? Not to mention beard has been practically begging for the job. He will be at Kansas or North Carolina now in the next 2 years now. Half of the coaches in the sweet 16 have previous scandals and guess what? Nobody cares!!! It’s all about winning and beard was the best coach available by a mile 

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1 minute ago, Zcorey92 said:

He might turn out to be great coach. But this hire is a huge gamble. Why pay $6 million for a buyout to a coach that has won one play in game when you have a proven winner in beard who would also be cheaper? Not to mention beard has been practically begging for the job. He will be at Kansas or North Carolina now in the next 2 years now. Half of the coaches in the sweet 16 have previous scandals and guess what? Nobody cares!!! It’s all about winning and beard was the best coach available by a mile 

You just don't get it. Beard's baggage will never allow him to be hired at Indiana. Even two of the slimiest programs (Kentucky and Louisville) passed on him...  I would be really surprised if either Kansas or UNC took a shot on him.

And yeah, some coaches have "scandals" in the skeleton closet, but none have been down the DV abuse road, AFAIK.

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12 minutes ago, Zcorey92 said:

He might turn out to be great coach. But this hire is a huge gamble. Why pay $6 million for a buyout to a coach that has won one play in game when you have a proven winner in beard who would also be cheaper? Not to mention beard has been practically begging for the job. He will be at Kansas or North Carolina now in the next 2 years now. Half of the coaches in the sweet 16 have previous scandals and guess what? Nobody cares!!! It’s all about winning and beard was the best coach available by a mile 

You can't seriously be bringing this back up. This horse is so dead its bones are dust.

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33 minutes ago, Zcorey92 said:

He might turn out to be great coach. But this hire is a huge gamble. Why pay $6 million for a buyout to a coach that has won one play in game when you have a proven winner in beard who would also be cheaper? Not to mention beard has been practically begging for the job. He will be at Kansas or North Carolina now in the next 2 years now. Half of the coaches in the sweet 16 have previous scandals and guess what? Nobody cares!!! It’s all about winning and beard was the best coach available by a mile 

There’s a really easy solution for people who want to root for a guy like Beard.  You’re never going to be able to do it as a fan of Indiana University.

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35 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

You just don't get it. Beard's baggage will never allow him to be hired at Indiana. Even two of the slimiest programs (Kentucky and Louisville) passed on him...  I would be really surprised if either Kansas or UNC took a shot on him.

And yeah, some coaches have "scandals" in the skeleton closet, but none have been down the DV abuse road, AFAIK.

He'll be hired by another blue blood program without a doubt. We all get that IU will never hire a coach with baggage. You have no idea why Kentucky and Louisville passed on him. Mark Pope was a coach at mid majors and a former player for Kentucky. You think Beard was the only other candidate they were also looking at? Not likely. 

Pat Kelsey was another one of those mid major coach stories. He did well at the lower level and they thought they were going to catch lightning in a bottle. Once again, you really think Beard was the only other candidate that they were looking at for that job? Not likely. Both programs most likely had a handful of candidates they were looking at. They didn't pass on only Beard for those roles

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37 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

You just don't get it. Beard's baggage will never allow him to be hired at Indiana. Even two of the slimiest programs (Kentucky and Louisville) passed on him...  I would be really surprised if either Kansas or UNC took a shot on him.

And yeah, some coaches have "scandals" in the skeleton closet, but none have been down the DV abuse road, AFAIK.

It's interesting that you mention beard & UK.  I was perusing their MB and there's a couple of threads about our hire.  More than one poster was criticizing us for not hiring beard.  All I could think was: why didn't you guys hire him, then? They instead hired a guy that no one outside Kentucky considered a home run but it seems to have worked out well for them.  It's similar hypocrisy as those types being critical our our past hires (justifiably), but then criticizing our fans of "running off" those same lackluster coaches after 4 seasons (or more).

 

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Beard’s a great coach. It’s been a (self-inflicted) up and down past few years for him, but he moved to 14-5 in the NCAA tournament last night. I hope DD succeeds so we don’t have to think of Beard as yet another coach who got away. 

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17 minutes ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

He'll be hired by another blue blood program without a doubt. We all get that IU will never hire a coach with baggage. You have no idea why Kentucky and Louisville passed on him. Mark Pope was a coach at mid majors and a former player for Kentucky. You think Beard was the only other candidate they were also looking at? Not likely. 

Pat Kelsey was another one of those mid major coach stories. He did well at the lower level and they thought they were going to catch lightning in a bottle. Once again, you really think Beard was the only other candidate that they were looking at for that job? Not likely. Both programs most likely had a handful of candidates they were looking at. They didn't pass on only Beard for those roles

Louisville ended up with Kelsey because they:

a) whiffed on Scott Drew

b) whiffed on Dusty May

c) couldn't afford Cronin's buyout

Louisville could have hired Beard after b and c failed and still chose to hire Pat Kelsey. That speaks volumes. 

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He'll be hired by another blue blood program without a doubt. We all get that IU will never hire a coach with baggage. You have no idea why Kentucky and Louisville passed on him. Mark Pope was a coach at mid majors and a former player for Kentucky. You think Beard was the only other candidate they were also looking at? Not likely. 

Pat Kelsey was another one of those mid major coach stories. He did well at the lower level and they thought they were going to catch lightning in a bottle. Once again, you really think Beard was the only other candidate that they were looking at for that job? Not likely. Both programs most likely had a handful of candidates they were looking at. They didn't pass on only Beard for those roles

Agree, we have no idea why both Kentucky and Louisville passed on Beard... but if he was the "home run" that some are claiming, why would they pass on him for someone no one else would be considering? To me, that speaks volumes... 

And since we've been around this topic way more than we should, I'm gonna drop it... just know that I am excited about Darian DeVries and what he can do here.

Go Hoosiers!

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12 hours ago, Zcorey92 said:

We could of had beard for cheaper than we paid for an unproven guy lol 

Cheaper? Are you sure about that? He already has a $5M salary and his buyout is $.45M. So I'm not seeing much savings there other than the inconsequential $1.5M more that CDD's buyout turned out to be. 

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/college/ole-miss/2024/08/21/chris-beard-contract-ole-miss-basketball-salary-texas/74853744007/

Here's an Ole Miss message board. Go show your new fandom there.

https://www.secrant.com/rant/ole-miss-sports/

 

 

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1 hour ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

He'll be hired by another blue blood program without a doubt. We all get that IU will never hire a coach with baggage. You have no idea why Kentucky and Louisville passed on him. Mark Pope was a coach at mid majors and a former player for Kentucky. You think Beard was the only other candidate they were also looking at? Not likely. 

Pat Kelsey was another one of those mid major coach stories. He did well at the lower level and they thought they were going to catch lightning in a bottle. Once again, you really think Beard was the only other candidate that they were looking at for that job? Not likely. Both programs most likely had a handful of candidates they were looking at. They didn't pass on only Beard for those roles

So you're calling it for him to end up at UNC or Kansas when those jobs open up in the not too far future? I doubt he ends up at either one.

What does UK and UL passing on other coaches have to do with them passing on Beard? The 8 billion other people they didn't hire makes no difference when talking about Beard. They didn't hire Beard when they could have. That is the point. 

IU has their coach. Pining for some other coach at this point is just pathetic. Pining for one with Beard's baggage is also gross.

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1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Agree, we have no idea why both Kentucky and Louisville passed on Beard... but if he was the "home run" that some are claiming, why would they pass on him for someone no one else would be considering? To me, that speaks volumes... 

And since we've been around this topic way more than we should, I'm gonna drop it... just know that I am excited about Darian DeVries and what he can do here.

Go Hoosiers!

Well, L'ville did have that whole Pitino and strippers scandal in the recent past. They might have been more worried about introducing a coach with so much baggage than even IU at this point. 

I'm not sure why everyone mentions L'ville and Kentucky in the breath. It's been quite a long time since the Chris Mill's scandal at UK. L'ville's last scandal wasn't all that long ago, relatively speaking. It's likely that they were more risk-averse at this point. 

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