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Darian DeVries - New IUBB Head Coach

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9 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

2? 

Probably didn't phrase it right that he was one WV's two top scorers. They brought in Jayden Stone as a transfer to be a scorer. He averaged 20.8/5.6/2.7 the prior season at Detroit. Scored 30 in Detroit's final Horizon tourney game. Wasn't available all season for WV. 

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1 minute ago, Motley's said:

Probably didn't phrase it right that he was one WV's two top scorers. They brought in Jayden Stone as a transfer to be a scorer. He averaged 20.8/5.6/2.7 the prior season at Detroit. Scored 30 in Detroit's final Horizon tourney game. Wasn't available all season for WV. 

ahhhhh. Didn't even know that. 

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4 minutes ago, Motley's said:

Probably didn't phrase it right that he was one WV's two top scorers. They brought in Jayden Stone as a transfer to be a scorer. He averaged 20.8/5.6/2.7 the prior season at Detroit. Scored 30 in Detroit's final Horizon tourney game. Wasn't available all season for WV. 

Stone has one year left due to medical redshirt and I’d be happy with him coming to IU. I can see it now: Stone hits a massive 3 and you just got Dazed and Confused.

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21 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

The third paragraph misrepresents what happened the last two years at Dayton and why Brian Gregory left.  Sure, he won a lot.  But not in conference.  The last two years of Gregory's coaching at Dayton resulted in dropping completely out of the picture of competing at high levels in the ACC.  He went from 2nd to 7th and 8th in the conference and only got one NCAAT bid in his last 7 years there.  Recruiting had dried up.  For the University of Dayton...they saw no reason to extend the contract and Gregory knew he was on a slippery slope.  Brian Gregory jumped ship as UD contemplated making him walk the plank.  

Miller came in and the cupboard was bare.

According to Wiki: Miller became the head coach of the Dayton Flyers men's basketball team in 2011 and turned around a program that had back-to-back disappointing seasons. His first season with Dayton saw Miller take the school to 20 wins. In his third year, 2014, he had the Flyers in the Elite Eight with 26 wins; to get there, Dayton upset three higher seeded teams. After the Elite Eight run in 2014, Miller faced replacing three starters and four seniors from that team. Despite having a depleted roster featuring just six players who were recruited to Dayton and no active player taller than 6-foot-6, Miller led his Flyers to a 27–9 overall record and to the third round of the 2015 NCAA tournament.

Miller's short stint at Dayton was the 2nd best coaching job at that university...second only to Don Donoher.  

I loved Miller's work at Dayton.  It did not translate to the big time at IU.  In my humble opinion...he was not a good fit.  But IU administration did not seem to support him in many ways relative to building his team.

Archie Miller had to go.

 

Not to turn this into an Archie thread, but I followed that program pretty closely back then, and the truth about it is really somewhere in between really good and stagnant.  He struggled his first 2 1/2 years, low conference finish his second year and started the third year 1-5 in the league and the natives were getting restless.  Then, mid-season, they miraculously turned it around and had the miracle Elite 8 run.

After that Archie was certainly very good in conference.  It should be noted that was right after Xavier and Butler left for the Big East, but he was still very good in league.  Never was able to have another tournament run, though.

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7 minutes ago, Motley's said:

Probably didn't phrase it right that he was one WV's two top scorers. They brought in Jayden Stone as a transfer to be a scorer. He averaged 20.8/5.6/2.7 the prior season at Detroit. Scored 30 in Detroit's final Horizon tourney game. Wasn't available all season for WV. 

If those two are available, that’s a top-25 maybe top-15ish team all season and the DD conversation is completely different right now. The fact he still had them a tournament team was just good coaching. (Snubbed obviously but that team should have been in) 

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2 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

Not to turn this into an Archie thread, but I followed that program pretty closely back then, and the truth about it is really somewhere in between really good and stagnant.  He struggled his first 2 1/2 years, low conference finish his second year and started the third year 1-5 in the league and the natives were getting restless.  Then, mid-season, they miraculously turned it around and had the miracle Elite 8 run.

After that Archie was certainly very good in conference.  It should be noted that was right after Xavier and Butler left for the Big East, but he was still very good in league.  Never was able to have another tournament run, though.

He never was able to have another tournament run.  True.

But he did get into the NCAAT his last 4 years at Dayton.

At Dayton...that is good.

Archie was not in my top 5 of picks when he got tapped for the job.  I was surprised.

He did not have the basketball players with long arms and with the work ethic that was team oriented in his tenure at IU.  

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Archie's been gone for four years and we're still doing postmortems on his tenure lol, he really did a number on this fanbase.

Archie Miller was a poorly vetted coach, frankly. That's all there is to it. He was a bad fit for the program because of who he is, not necessarily because he is a bad coach -- and I still believe he's a decent coach, he's just in a shitty situation at Rhode Island, and frankly the IU job may have broken his spirit a bit. If he'd never left Dayton I think he'd still have that program rolling.

The reason I trust Dolson is because of the process through which he hired Cignetti. He didn't look at wins and losses, he looked at the character traits that led to the wins and losses. He identified the type of leader IUFB needed and got him. I believe he had a very similar, if not even more refined, process for the basketball coaching search. And in the introductory press conference, both he and Whitten discussed the traits they had been looking for, and that DeVries "met or exceeded" all of the criteria. And then DeVries spoke and confirmed that for us.

Sure, it's just words and we'll have to see the on-court product. But this felt starkly different from the Woodson and Miller introductory press conferences. There was a much clearer description of the vetting and hiring process that IU underwent, and a much clearer vision for how Coach DeVries wants to build the program.

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43 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

This is just a guess. But 3 high school kids Sisley and 2 from WV. Then 10 portal guys and none from the current roster. 

Fully agree... wipe it clean and don't forget the bleach...

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12 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

One of the things mentioned in the analysis video a few pages back was CDD ability to adapt and adjust.  Back in the Drake days Tucker was good enough to create his own shots.  When they moved to WVU, the talent was better, so they ran him off a series of screens to get him looks.   That’s what I like.  Will adjust to personal in order just win baby.   Can’t wait to see how this roster comes together in the next month.   

That is one of the many things that has been driving me mad for the past eight years +. The coaches recruited these players and then they try to jam a square peg in a round hole. If the guys that you recruited are not doing well in your system, change things up and that’s what I like to hear. Awesome.

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2 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Probably just one of the few times we've ever seen Fisch without a giant set of headphones matting his hair down.

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16 minutes ago, TadQueasy said:

The only good thing about the Archie time period is having a coach named after the great Archie Bunker. 

No, the only thing good about the Archie time period was his smokeshow wife. 

Archie was an absolute disaster, and I can't believe that he got past the interview. Archie must have brought his better half and Fred was ... uh ... distracted. 

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6 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

This video gets me pumped up. It’s so nice to have a coach who gets fired up and moves along the sidelines communicating instead of just standing there with a blank stare with his mouth wide open looking confused

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5 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

No, the only thing good about the Archie time period was his smokeshow wife. 

Archie was an absolute disaster, and I can't believe that he got past the interview. Archie must have brought his better half and Fred was ... uh ... distracted. 

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She was no Edith Bunker, but she was alright. 

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