Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[tyappleg]

Mods, are we allowed to tell posters to "Shut the **** up", or is that against board guidelines?

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Just now, tyappleg said:

Mods, are we allowed to tell posters to "Shut the **** up", or is that against board guidelines?

As long as you say please and you don't say it to any of the mods.

[tyappleg]

1 hour ago, RoadToZion said:

How exciting 

Please shut the **** up.

[Demo]

1 minute ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

As long as you say please and you don't say it to any of the mods.

But we still get to say to each other, right? 

[Hoosierfan2017]

6 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

Wilkerson said he was visiting every team before committing since the dead period.  nothing has changed.  if DeVries decides not to up the amount Wilkerson wants then so be it.  we saw what happened with CMW when handing out money like it was monopoly and that didn't end too well.  

It didn’t end well because Woodson was a crappy coach. The solution to “winning the offseason but losing the actual season” isn’t losing the offseason.  A strong start in year one is critical to his long term success. Cheaping out in the portal isn’t the way you accomplish that. Miss the tournament in year one and his seat is warm going into year two. 

[Ryno6284]

9 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

Wilkerson said he was visiting every team before committing since the dead period.  nothing has changed.  if DeVries decides not to up the amount Wilkerson wants then so be it.  we saw what happened with CMW when handing out money like it was monopoly and that didn't end too well.  

And I think DDV  knows who is worth bidding up for. Some on here make it look like he won’t play ball or know how, but I bet he has certain guys he wants and are worth over spending for! 

[Chris007]

44 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Guys, you do all realize the way our portal season is playing out is EXACTLY the same as what Louisville, Michigan, and UK went through last year, right? Slow to sign guys, few top portal signees, fans doubting that the new coach had the moxie to win at the highest level...

And we all saw how those situations turned out. Again, chill...

But aren't the dates different this year? Also, with revenue sharing, more teams have more NIL to work with than years past, so not sure we can compare the years. Also, maybe those three teams were the outliers and not the norm. I hope you're correct, but I will say from what I have heard the staff thought they would be a little farther along than they are so far. No panic so far, but ready to get some players. 

[Chris007]

26 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

I've announced my commitment to reup my season tickets for this upcoming season.  I can contribute the most to the concession stand Moreso than anything, a few upland drinks, hot dogs and popcorn throughout the season. Thank you for your support in my return to watch IU start its return to greatness

After playing golf all weekend, I should reopen my commitment to basketball. I'm pretty sure I can still shoot it. I can't get my shot off very quickly, can't jump very high, not going to guard anyone, will get tired fast, probably foul a lot, but if I'm open, it's money. Plus I can be had for a cheap NIL deal. 

[TheWatShot]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

But aren't the dates different this year? Also, with revenue sharing, more teams have more NIL to work with than years past, so not sure we can compare the years. Also, maybe those three teams were the outliers and not the norm. I hope you're correct, but I will say from what I have heard the staff thought they would be a little farther along than they are so far. No panic so far, but ready to get some players. 

It's IU basketball. We're always hoping to be just like the outliers. 

[dwtaylor1055]

6 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It didn’t end well because Woodson was a crappy coach. The solution to “winning the offseason but losing the actual season” isn’t losing the offseason.  A strong start in year one is critical to his long term success. Cheaping out in the portal isn’t the way you accomplish that. Miss the tournament in year one and his seat is warm going into year two. 

cant say he is cheaping out until at least the season is over.  what is the main goal for year 1?  make the tourney?  I'd say yes and not as a "at large bid" either

[akumanina]

Just now, Chris007 said:

After playing golf all weekend, I should reopen my commitment to basketball. I'm pretty sure I can still shoot it. I can't get my shot off very quickly, can't jump very high, not going to guard anyone, will get tired fast, probably foul a lot, but if I'm open, it's money. Plus I can be had for a cheap NIL deal. 

Sounds like you're a warm body with 5 fouls to give. The current market price is $250/month. Interested?

[Demo]

10 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

God forbid some people have concerns and discuss them on a message board. 

I think that guy has a pretty decent feel for the value of message board discussion, ya know, since he created this  board and all, but I think the issue may be the snowball effect of a segment of folks playing can you top this over and over and over all day, every day, with their heightening negativity when literally nothing new has happened. Example: Wilkerson said he was gonna take all his visits, flat out said it, yet some folks are having a collective aneurysm that he’s actually doing it. It’s Lord of the Flies $hit and it’s absurd and soul-sucking. 

[CSP]

8 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It didn’t end well because Woodson was a crappy coach. The solution to “winning the offseason but losing the actual season” isn’t losing the offseason.  A strong start in year one is critical to his long term success. Cheaping out in the portal isn’t the way you accomplish that. Miss the tournament in year one and his seat is warm going into year two. 

 

"cheapening out in the portal isn't the way you accomplish that"..... like what? 

[Chris007]

2 minutes ago, akumanina said:

Sounds like you're a warm body with 5 fouls to give. The current market price is $250/month. Interested?

[skhoosier2]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

But aren't the dates different this year? Also, with revenue sharing, more teams have more NIL to work with than years past, so not sure we can compare the years. Also, maybe those three teams were the outliers and not the norm. I hope you're correct, but I will say from what I have heard the staff thought they would be a little farther along than they are so far. No panic so far, but ready to get some players. 

It does seem like many, many programs have as much or more to spend as we do.  I can't lie and say I'm not a bit concerned at this point.  There is a long way to go and once the other teams fill out their rosters obviously, we will look more attractive to many because those more attractive programs no longer have space.  I think it is imperative though we have at least a tournament appearance this season in order to start attracting more players to the program.  I do feel CDD needs to prove himself and put IUBB on an upwards trajectory before we are going to be able to compete with those bigger programs for better players.  Plus, now that we have more of a staff in place I expect that will help with the recruiting. Not ready to panic or be completely dismayed at this point like some, but I don't think expressing concern is unwarranted.

[TadQueasy]

26 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

Mods, are we allowed to tell posters to "Shut the **** up", or is that against board guidelines?

[Home Jersey]

His seat won’t be warm if we miss the tournament in year 1. Fan engagement will dip. But his seat won’t be warm. Look at his contract. He’s getting minimum 4, probably at least 5. Maybe 6. Fans will come back if/when the winning starts. After all the years of sucking, fans are at their breaking point with the program. But winning brings them right back. The job of fans is to cheer and support the team. Having concerns is fine but the fans don’t make or break the coach’s tenure. We should support them even if you’re not impressed after one month on the job. Being snarky about a JuCo big man is looking for a reason to dump on the new coach. How are IU fans who aren’t ready to throw in the towel on the program supposed to react to constant negativity on an IU sports board? I don’t really care how any of you guys feel, personally, no offense. It’s just funny how both sides needle each other constantly. Long offseason

[IndyHoosier1997]

So did Kentucky embarrassingly swing and miss on Wilkerson too?

[Hoosierfan2017]

7 minutes ago, Demo said:

I think that guy has a pretty decent feel for the value of message board discussion, ya know, since he created this  board and all, but I think the issue may be the snowball effect of a segment of folks playing can you top this over and over and over all day, every day, with their heightening negativity when literally nothing new has happened. Example: Wilkerson said he was gonna take all his visits, flat out said it, yet some folks are having a collective aneurysm that he’s actually doing it. It’s Lord of the Flies $hit and it’s absurd and soul-sucking. 

Soul sucking has been the IU basketball fan experience for the past decade. Could I be more positive, absolutely. I would’ve loved nothing more than for DD to hit the ground running. But it’s been a shaky start out the gate. Combine that with the past decade of experiences and alarm bells start going off. Part of the “snowball effect” comes from posters getting attacked whenever they share their concerns with what they’ve seen thus far. 

[IU Prof]

18 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

But aren't the dates different this year? Also, with revenue sharing, more teams have more NIL to work with than years past, so not sure we can compare the years. Also, maybe those three teams were the outliers and not the norm. I hope you're correct, but I will say from what I have heard the staff thought they would be a little farther along than they are so far. No panic so far, but ready to get some players. 

Yes, there are certainly differences, which is fair to note. But I don't think the differences are so drastic that it totally undermines the point. Some people are freaking out way too prematurely.