Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[AH1971 3,185]

3 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Debating minutes for an incomplete team with a new coach is funny lol 

Not really, there's 10 guys on the roster and doubt we play all 10. We're missing one piece, a defensive 5. Assuming we sign one of the two rumored guys, everybody else after is going to be building for the future. Wouldn't expect much out of Curtis next year if he is indeed on board. Wouldn't mind adding Briscoe to fill out the bench. 

[Hoosier987 2,769]

11 hours ago, IU Prof said:

Where did Torvik have IU last year, preseason? I feel like it was Top 15.

Computer rankings aren't the be all, end all.

I actually think Torvik had us ranked in the mid 40s. It was they pre-season hype and "stars" that made us preseason top 20 not the metrics...it seemed like the metrics surprisingly had us pegged pretty well prior to the season...Honestly, it was probably pretty easy  because last year's team -outside of Goode and maybe Mgbako -- didn't have have shooters.  You can't win if you can't shoot. This year we look to have an elite shooting team.

With that said, I wouldn't put all my eggs in these rankings. We really need to play first to get an idea of how it is going to go. Right now Torvik has OSU and UNC significantly higher than us, and frankly, I think we will be better than both of them by a significant amount. 

[Hoosier987 2,769]

11 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Transfer portal rankings

2024- Carlyle 15 

2025- Carlyle 313

Optics looked good in 2024 though 

Also shows you that these rankings are pure guesswork outside of several really good players....I'm pretty sure connections will get you far in these rankings even if you're not good. See Kristian Lander as an example - highly ranked, played at Indiana Elite but clearly shouldn't have been ranked in the top 1000. 

 You really have to do your scouting. I felt far too often -- imo -- Woodson was taking the easy way and chasing stars. Simply put, Carlyle had no business being ranked in the top 300, let alone top 20.  Anyways, he's moved on, made a nice bag while being here.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,878]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Also shows you that these rankings are pure guesswork outside of several really good players....I'm pretty sure connections will get you far in these rankings even if you're not good. See Kristian Lander as an example - highly ranked, played at Indiana Elite but clearly shouldn't have been ranked in the top 1000. 

 You really have to do your scouting. I felt far too often -- imo -- Woodson was taking the easy way and chasing stars. Simply put, Carlyle had no business being ranked in the top 300, let alone top 20.  Anyways, he's moved on, made a nice bag while being here.

Lander shouldn't have been Top 100 in his original class lol 

[lillurk 5,123]

The handwringing about a starting-caliber center right now reminds me of the period after Enright committed when some were mad because they thought he’d start.

Or after Conwell picked UL and Wilkerson took other visits and they sky was falling because we had like three players.

The rim running, shot blocking, screen-and-dive center we need is going to look at the roster and see a perfect fit for him.

C — it could be you! Feast at the rim with our spacing and passing.

PF — Bailey

SF — DeVries

SG — Wilkerson

PG — Conerway

bench: Alexis, Enright, Miles, Dorn, Drake, Sisley, (Goode?)

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,878]

30 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

I actually think Torvik had us ranked in the mid 40s. It was they pre-season hype and "stars" that made us preseason top 20 not the metrics...it seemed like the metrics surprisingly had us pegged pretty well prior to the season...Honestly, it was probably pretty easy  because last year's team -outside of Goode and maybe Mgbako -- didn't have have shooters.  You can't win if you can't shoot. This year we look to have an elite shooting team.

With that said, I wouldn't put all my eggs in these rankings. We really need to play first to get an idea of how it is going to go. Right now Torvik has OSU and UNC significantly higher than us, and frankly, I think we will be better than both of them by a significant amount. 

Near certain to the bold... that had me filtering "excitement" from the get go... then you watched us play, and well .... yeah. 

We also didn't have any creators. 

[iu2win 189]

21 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Umm....are you saying that Dean Garrett and Noah Vonlah played over 300 college games each?

Vonleh and Garrett's numbers you are citing are from the NBA, lol.

No, obviously CAREER numbers . . . not NBA alone.  Nevertheless, you clearly set me straight . . . kudos!  

[Hoosier987 2,769]

1 hour ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

does it sound any sort of realistic to add either of those two, at this juncture? 

When Bailey was playing, opposing teams scored at a rate of 60% in the paint. Miller or Fedx2 would serve a purpose on this team...not offensive threats but good defensively. I think Fed has a 7'4" wingspan. We got plenty of guard depth now...which is awesome.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,878]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

When Bailey was playing, opposing teams scored at a rate of 60% in the paint. Miller or Fedx2 would serve a purpose on this team. We got plenty of guard depth now. 

I don't find the bold to be all that relevant without knowing every other factor that played into that %

I agree they'd serve a purpose, sort of..... but ... we signed Alexis for a reason and I doubt he came here to play less mins than he did at UF. 

[Scotty R 3,682]

As of now this is how I see the lineup 

Conerway/Enright 

Wilkerson/Drake 

Miles/Dorn

Devries/Sisley 

Bailey/Alexis

Hopefully we get another 5 like Fredricko and then go get two freshmen who are either a big wing or another 4

[Juwan Moye 1,208]

I think (hope?) everyone understands this but, generally speaking, early in the year coaches play broader rotations and, once they learn what works, settle into a tighter rotation. So early in the season, expecting 10+ guys to get minutes is reasonable but later in the year it’s likely to tighten up to 8 or so.

The luxury we seem to have is that there will be real competition for those minutes instead compared to what we rolled out last year. I personally love the “mid major all conference performer” approach.

[Mopladysman 1,403]

16 hours ago, SlammySammy said:

FYI, Curtis has been on campus but I have no idea whether it was official or not. Just some insight, my sources are a couple of students who talked with him while he was on campus and keep in touch with him.....nothing more, nothing less..

Where’s those students with an update?

[Rico 3,558]

19 minutes ago, Mopladysman said:

Where’s those students with an update?

[Victor 114]

2 hours ago, Silat Player said:

It sounds like we're in bad shape in the frontcourt if Alexis plays any bigger role than say Peyton Sparks did. Just a spot player here and there. 

Not true. Some of you/us aren’t ready to see a team like this one. Need to stop thinking post centric. The B1G is going away from banging and backing down type bigs. Alexis is 240 pound by the way. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,878]

1 minute ago, Victor said:

Not true. Some of you/us aren’t ready to see a team like this one. Need to stop thinking post centric. The B1G is going away from banging and backing down type bigs. Alexis is 240 pound by the way. 

10 years late, but yeah, we're getting there. 

This is a really good post, though. 

[Victor 114]

2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

10 years late, but yeah, we're getting there. 

This is a really good post, though. 

The wings he’s getting play more like guards. Will be sweet seeing kick outs to multiple “guards”. Can’t wait to see them vs. fletcher and smith. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,878]

1 minute ago, Victor said:

The wings he’s getting play more like guards. Will be sweet seeing kick outs to multiple “guards”. Can’t wait to see them vs. fletcher and smith. 

I hope we can finally find officiating that doesn't pander to tackle basketball; that would be nice. 

The bald 7ft official needs to GOOOOO

[AH1971 3,185]

7 minutes ago, Victor said:

Not true. Some of you/us aren’t ready to see a team like this one. Need to stop thinking post centric. The B1G is going away from banging and backing down type bigs. Alexis is 240 pound by the way. 

I don't think many are worried about what the 5 brings offensively. Defensively however, it's a glaring concern at the present moment.

[Hoosierfanyuh 6,753]

9 minutes ago, Victor said:

Not true. Some of you/us aren’t ready to see a team like this one. Need to stop thinking post centric. The B1G is going away from banging and backing down type bigs. Alexis is 240 pound by the way. 

This!!!!!! Thank you. The only two teams off the top of my head with elite bigs and high usage are Michigan and Purdue at the moment. 

[IndyHoosier1997 146]

I agree we need to look at defensive bigs, but one of the teams in the national championship in Houston weren’t exactly playing your typical rim protecting defensive bigs. 
 

They didn’t have a player in their rotation above 6’8.