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Class of '66 Old Fart

Transfer Portal w IU Interest

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10 minutes ago, Iu1973 said:

He would be the best shooter on the team.   Guess he will light up Indiana under Hoiberg system.  At least he will have  a better coach and program currently.  

I like Essegian -- loved his potential after his freshman season -- but I think considering him a knock down shooter is overstating what he's done.  Through two seasons he's made 34.5% of his threes.  If you ask me if I'd rather have a guy who has shot a volume of threes his freshman year and shot 32 or 33% or one who's at 34.5% after two seasons, I'd take the freshman.  Mgbako was at 32.7%, Carlyle was at 32.0%.

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1 hour ago, Iu1973 said:

He would be the best shooter on the team.   Guess he will light up Indiana under Hoiberg system.  At least he will have  a better coach and program currently.  

He’s likely the worst defender in the entire B10, and not joking either. I don’t know if he’ll even see the floor enough at Nebraska to light anybody up. Nebraska lost a lot in the backcourt this offseason so the avenue to immediate playing time is cleared there, but he was going to struggle to get minutes here next year.

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13 hours ago, Iu1973 said:

He would be the best shooter on the team.   Guess he will light up Indiana under Hoiberg system.  At least he will have  a better coach and program currently.  

To him it's probably not worth being the best shooter on the team if he's getting 15 minutes a game (at best), which is the situation he just left. The upside for us is he'll have to play defense against a more dynamic backcourt.

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13 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

That’s part of my concern for Woody’s recruiting pitch. When you target bench guys you get bench guys with less talent.  Let’s say he goes hard for TJ Power as a player with starter potential. Maybe he earns it, maybe he doesn’t.  
 

but when you are trying to recruit guys happy to be Bench guys you are severely capping your talent on the team.  He needs to find a way to figure this out. 

Nothing is promised.  Everything is earned.  

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18 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

They don’t recruit that way.  They definitely sell starter spots and bench spots.  
 

That’s why we weren’t able to get the guard we needed last cycle.  It’s why we recruited Peyton Sparks.  It’s why we are having a tougher time filling the last 3-4 spots.  

Now if during practice one of the bench guys outplays a starter, I imagine they would switch but it’s not really Woody’s ways either.

Instead of having 10 guys that look like they could be starters and letting the cream rise to the top we recruit tiers.  Makes the margin of error in assessment so much more difficult .  

 

They can recruit top tier players but when it comes to role players, they pretty much suck!

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Looking at Old Fart's big board (and assuming Carlyle commits), we have visits from Payne and Malone;  Walker visiting early next week and according to Chris, Anderson should be soon.  Payne looks like the least likely one since the visit was about a week ago and with Ballo committing he looks like the least likely as a fit.

By position:

Payne 4/5

Malone 4/5

Anderson 3/4

Walker 1

IMO, though, you can play two point guards simultaneously so Walker would still be an option off the bench.  He can shoot some.  Anderson and Malone are both intriguing but different players.  It is known that Payne can play a P5 level, just offers the least flexibiliity.

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17 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Looking at Old Fart's big board (and assuming Carlyle commits), we have visits from Payne and Malone;  Walker visiting early next week and according to Chris, Anderson should be soon.  Payne looks like the least likely one since the visit was about a week ago and with Ballo committing he looks like the least likely as a fit.

By position:

Payne 4/5

Malone 4/5

Anderson 3/4

Walker 1

IMO, though, you can play two point guards simultaneously so Walker would still be an option off the bench.  He can shoot some.  Anderson and Malone are both intriguing but different players.  It is known that Payne can play a P5 level, just offers the least flexibiliity.

Yeah I am intrigued by Malone and I just outright like Anderson and Walker for the roles they'd have at IU. Don’t know that any of those three would have more $ elsewhere but could probably find more PT.

Would be pretty pleased with the overall haul if it’s the three I named, Carlyle, and the two already in the fold.

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2 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

They don’t recruit that way.  They definitely sell starter spots and bench spots.  
 

That’s why we weren’t able to get the guard we needed last cycle.  It’s why we recruited Peyton Sparks.  It’s why we are having a tougher time filling the last 3-4 spots.  

Now if during practice one of the bench guys outplays a starter, I imagine they would switch but it’s not really Woody’s ways either.

Instead of having 10 guys that look like they could be starters and letting the cream rise to the top we recruit tiers.  Makes the margin of error in assessment so much more difficult .  

 

I agree.  That's why they need to take a lesson from Coach Cig.  

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