Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Chris007 51,096]

10 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Would he really leave UNC?

You asked for a big name. People have said he might want a change of scenery and to see how much he could get on the open market

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2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

You asked for a big name. People have said he might want a change of scenery and to see how much he could get on the open market

LOL ... what that wouldn't do to IU's guard situation. Competition would be fierce in practice for playing time. How many total minutes are available in a game? 200 .... some are not going to play as much as they want.

[Chris007 51,096]

28 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

I am taking projections out of the equation and just going on simplistic blind numbers — past performance.  It’s not advanced by any means.  I am just not seeing how these two moves, and these two moves only, make us a championship contender.   They may be some of the better players available, but their stats don’t jump off the charts compared with what we lost.    With these two additions are we really significantly better than we have been the past three years?  Or will we be back here in November saying the things we did the past three years.  
 

Plus we need to pass the time until the next visits this weekend. :)

These guys feel the same as you do. Still no shooting and everything is crowded. Goodman said this is a roster for the 80's

 

[Golfman25 6,110]

15 minutes ago, Papacap said:

With just Ballo and Rice? No. But I think Rice could be significantly better than X. And given that we had to replace Ware and X, it’s hard to imagine doing better than these two going into the portal.

And adding in Carlyle, Tucker and whoever else does make us significantly better than we have been in terms of talent.

That doesn’t mean Woodson will win at a high level. But he is certainly building a roster better than it has been. As long as we get a shooter or two with remaining spots.

 

As I have said the next few players, plus Tucker, may make the difference.  But Tucker has yet to play a game and the others aren’t official yet. 

[Golfman25 6,110]

18 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Yeah Haircut Gunn, Banks, Sparks, and our child of a 24yr old point guard. Huge losses 

Only comparing to X and Ware.  The others should be upgrades. 

[Golfman25 6,110]

18 minutes ago, Papacap said:

With just Ballo and Rice? No. But I think Rice could be significantly better than X. And given that we had to replace Ware and X, it’s hard to imagine doing better than these two going into the portal.

And adding in Carlyle, Tucker and whoever else does make us significantly better than we have been in terms of talent.

That doesn’t mean Woodson will win at a high level. But he is certainly building a roster better than it has been. As long as we get a shooter or two with remaining spots.

 

I Don’t disagree.  But I am taking the “could” out of the equation.  What if he doesn’t get there?  I know what he is now, for sure.  

[Hovadipo 58,751]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

These guys feel the same as you do. Still no shooting and everything is crowded. Goodman said this is a roster for the 80's

 

Well…the 80s were pretty good to us. Thank u jeff!!!!

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Just now, Golfman25 said:

Only comparing to X and Ware.  The others should be upgrades. 

X? 

In conference games--X avged 6p and A/T ratio was 1:1... He was awful. 

[Chris007 51,096]

1 minute ago, Hovadipo said:

Well…the 80s were pretty good to us. Thank u jeff!!!!

Funny thing is we played more 3 guard lineups in the 80's then we do now

[Golfman25 6,110]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

These guys feel the same as you do. Still no shooting and everything is crowded. Goodman said this is a roster for the 80's

 

I don’t know if that’s good or bad. LOL. :)

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1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

I Don’t disagree.  But I am taking the “could” out of the equation.  What if he doesn’t get there?  I know what he is now, for sure.  

True. And whether or not he can win with the talent is a huge question mark. But, I’m not sure he could do a lot better so far in the portal. 

[Hovadipo 58,751]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Funny thing is we played more 3 guard lineups in the 80's then we do now

Thought I was cooking there. 

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8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

These guys feel the same as you do. Still no shooting and everything is crowded. Goodman said this is a roster for the 80's

 

Goodman phoning in this analysis. Wow. Ballo isn’t a 3 point shooter? Thanks for that. And how lazy is it to ask what Mgbako’s percentage is and then say, I don’t know it but it’s not good.

we do need to add shooters and if we don’t with our remaining spots, that could spell trouble. But come on man, show a little effort when you are an “expert”.

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4 minutes ago, Papacap said:

Mgbako’s percentage is and then say, I don’t know it but it’s not good.

He's the one guy I'm confident that he'll be able to shoot it next year.  His first month was pretty rough.  After that he was pretty consistently a 35% 3pt shooter on good volume.  That's pretty good for a freshman.  He's a threat even if he doesn't improve.  But I'd guess he's at least in the high 30s on 5+ attempts a game next year. 

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7 minutes ago, str8baller said:

He's the one guy I'm confident that he'll be able to shoot it next year.  His first month was pretty rough.  After that he was pretty consistently a 35% 3pt shooter on good volume.  That's pretty good for a freshman.  He's a threat even if he doesn't improve.  But I'd guess he's at least in the high 30s on 5+ attempts a game next year. 

Shot 38% in conference games. 

Last 26 games he was 36% 

Last 9 games-- 16p 4r ---6 3pt attempts a game.. 

[Hovadipo 58,751]

24 minutes ago, Papacap said:

Goodman phoning in this analysis. Wow. Ballo isn’t a 3 point shooter? Thanks for that. And how lazy is it to ask what Mgbako’s percentage is and then say, I don’t know it but it’s not good.

we do need to add shooters and if we don’t with our remaining spots, that could spell trouble. But come on man, show a little effort when you are an “expert”.

I actually saw Jeff wearing this shirt one time. 

[OldBuddy67 291]

49 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

These guys feel the same as you do. Still no shooting and everything is crowded. Goodman said this is a roster for the 80's

 

Say what you want about Dakich, but he nailed it on Goodman years ago. 

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First class reporting by FO68! 

[ap2345 9,606]

1 minute ago, reconmkd said:

First class reporting by FO68! 

They are clueless

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56 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Funny thing is we played more 3 guard lineups in the 80's then we do now

We did.  But at the minimum it does seem like that the staff is looking at bringing in shooters -- I don't know why you would bring in Essegian for a visit if you weren't because that is pretty much what he did well when he was on his game.

My guy says that Rice and Carlyle decided they wanted to play together and sold themselves as such.  And if the option is both of them neither, put me down as a resounding yes to both of them.  Let's say that they both shoot 35% from three next year -- pretty realistic expectation for the jump from freshman to sophomore year (for an IU comparison, C.J. Gunn and Tamar Bates certainly had holes in their game and neither shot the ball well as all as freshman, but they were at 34 and 37% as sophomores).  Rice and Carlyle as 35% shooters from deep are a couple of pretty effective three level scorers.