Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[RaceToTheTop]

24 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

27% from 3 is 27% from 3, it’s not good.

maybe he has a big leap from freshmen year to sophomore year, it is possible but a full season from start to finish without cherry-picking says he isn’t a good 3 point shooter.

The two additions to the team are talented no doubt but don’t fill the need all of us have been clamoring for and frustrated about. Crimson colored glasses here for sure.

when do we fill THE VOID?

So does 247 have crimson colored glasses in having him as a top 20 portal pickup?  Did the Pac 12 poll having him as Pac 12 freshman of the year have crimson colored glasses?

I'm certainly not clear how getting a 14 point scoring freshman guard wasn't a need.

[AH1971]

28 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

27% from 3 is 27% from 3, it’s not good.

maybe he has a big leap from freshmen year to sophomore year, it is possible but a full season from start to finish without cherry-picking says he isn’t a good 3 point shooter.

The two additions to the team are talented no doubt but don’t fill the need all of us have been clamoring for and frustrated about. Crimson colored glasses here for sure.

when do we fill THE VOID?

28 games shooting 35% is a larger sample size than a 7 game 0-22 shooting slump. Cherry picking….lol

[AH1971]

30 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Not sure anyone's used "3 point shooter", "larger volume" and "Woodson's system" in the same sentence. Ever.

Check Mgbako’s conference stats.

[MikeRoberts]

8 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

So does 247 have crimson colored glasses in having him as a top 20 portal pickup?  Did the Pac 12 poll having him as Pac 12 freshman of the year have crimson colored glasses?

I'm certainly not clear how getting a 14 point scoring freshman guard wasn't a need.

WE NEED SHOOTERS

we were one of the worst 3 point shooting teams in all of college basketball - that neeeds to be addressed and neither additions thus far changes that. That’s it, that’s the point. Maybe you think we can win big being one of the worst 3 point shooting teams in college basketball but stats/history says otherwise

[MikeRoberts]

4 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

28 games shooting 35% is a larger sample size than a 7 game 0-22 shooting slump. Cherry picking….lol

That is the definition of cherry picking. You looked at a whole season and wiped out his worst performances. Lol

[AH1971]

3 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

That is the definition of cherry picking. You looked at a whole season and wiped out his worst performances. Lol

The proverbial freshman wall. Have zero concerns with Rice being able to shoot from the perimeter going forward. If teams want to play off him like they did Cupps and Galloway all last year, more power to them.

[8bucks]

9 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

WE NEED SHOOTERS

we were one of the worst 3 point shooting teams in all of college basketball - that neeeds to be addressed and neither additions thus far changes that. That’s it, that’s the point. Maybe you think we can win big being one of the worst 3 point shooting teams in college basketball but stats/history says otherwise

We still have 5 spots to fill. We also needed a dynamic PG. I hoped we could get both in one player. First 2/3 of his season he fit that. Definitely need more of that than the last 1/3 but he is a huge upgrade and is young. Remember when some hoops guy said after we lost boogie we could probably get someone similar with experience in the portal. Rice kind of fits that 

[TTT]

Offensive execution and system makes shooting percentages go up or down regardless of player.  

[Hornsby]

In theory, recruiting portal players with more than a single year of eligibility is a good thing but in the current environment every kid on your roster is technically nothing but a 1-year rental.  I hate it but that's what it's become.

That's the issue once they allowed unlimited transfers. Look at kriisa goes from Arizona to West Virginia to the portal again.


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[hoopsta007]

I think (and am hoping) with Trey, Cupps, and X as the primary ball handlers last season, the shooters weren’t put in good spots and the passes were often at the feet or over the head.  If we get a true point guard the numbers can improve across the board with better ball movement.

[Hornsby]

What happened to the 'one free transfer' limitation? I've lost track.

I guess that only lasted a year or so Now I guess it's every year if you want.  Covid years I am lost.

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[Stuhoo]

15 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I guess that only lasted a year or so Now I guess it's every year if you want.  Covid years I am lost.

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It’s a crazy, mixed up system.

At least the Covid year thing goes away after this year. Hopefully the unlimited free agency will someday soon.

[Hornsby]

It’s a crazy, mixed up system.
At least the Covid year thing goes away after this year. Hopefully the unlimited free agency will someday soon.

Yep. It's really a worse deal for teams with not much money. They can develop a guy only to see him leave cause they can't pay him enough. Minnesota just lost a guy to nebraska cause they could only pay 100k I read. Nebraska paid 200k to get him.I don't think minnesota has much nil money



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[RaceToTheTop]

19 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Yep. It's really a worse deal for teams with not much money. They can develop a guy only to see him leave cause they can't pay him enough. Minnesota just lost a guy to nebraska cause they could only pay 100k I read. Nebraska paid 200k to get him.I don't think minnesota has much nil money



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At this point Minnesota seems to just try to reload with players from low to mid majors.  They've been able to keep Dawson Garcia in the fold but little else.  But it does seems like even if they develop talent, that talent then transfers out.

[Hornsby]

At this point Minnesota seems to just try to reload with players from low to mid majors.  They've been able to keep Dawson Garcia in the fold but little else.  But it does seems like even if they develop talent, that talent then transfers out.

Yep though I think in garcias case alot had to do with family. I think he had some family deaths and why he moved back to minn originally. Maybe why he stayed not maybe about money totally. But they did expect to be pretty good next year then lost like four guys to the portal. No idea what they could pay Garcia though.

 

I just found this even their football team which is pretty good seems to not have the nil they need.

 

PJ Fleck warns Gophers will lose players without more NIL money

 

"So, if want to keep players. All these guys we have, they won't be here ne

 

 

 

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[IU - Kaulie]

8 hours ago, AH1971 said:

Leal/Cupps/Galloway/Johnson combined made 60 3 pointers last year. Will wager $100 to the charity of your choice that Rice hits at least 50. Rice scored more points than Galloway and Cupps combined last year playing in an offense that ranked 322nd in tempo. Galloway and Cupps started 75% of our conference games.

Carlyle + Rice gives us two guards who can SCORE which is the name of the game from all three levels of the court. 

You in?

I like Rice and Carlyle individually, and like you said they both can score and both like to get to the rim but you have to have spacing to make that work.  Ballo clogging the paint with MR doesn’t do that unless Malik improves a lot away from the basket which is possible.

If we are going Rice and Carlyle that’s fine but I don’t want Ballo.  MR needs to play the 5 and you add a shooter like Humrichous.  Rebounding will be a concern but I think we could get around it.

Ballo sounds like he is coming so I would strongly prefer Conwell as Rice’s running mate.  Conwell provides a lot on both ends that doesn’t get talked about enough.  If not Conwell, go hard after Hickman.

We need shooters.  If Ballo is coming we need even more shooters.  My personal preference is Rice, Conwell, Mgbako, Humrichous, and MR.  It sure sounds like it’s going to be Rice, Carlyle, Mgbako, MR, and Ballo.  I don’t love it, and we have to hope Rice and Carlyle up their percentages and MR can play more away from the basket because Ballo isn’t Ware and he will clog the paint and spacing is going to be an issue with explosive driving guards.  It’s a lot to ask for.  I like the players being talked about individually, but it has to work as a team.  None of the above names are coming here to come off the bench so you have to prioritize.  Right now, as it currently stands, there are two starting positions that are open.
 

Not going HARD after Conwell is a mistake, unless he has let it be known he isn’t interested.

[IUc2016]

1 minute ago, IU - Kaulie said:

I like Rice and Carlyle individually, and like you said they both can score and both like to get to the rim but you have to have spacing to make that work.  Ballo clogging the paint with MR doesn’t do that unless Malik improves a lot away from the basket which is possible.

If we are going Rice and Carlyle that’s fine but I don’t want Ballo.  MR needs to play the 5 and you add a shooter like Humrichous.  Rebounding will be a concern but I think we could get around it.

Ballo sounds like he is coming so I would strongly prefer Conwell as Rice’s running mate.  Conwell provides a lot on both ends that doesn’t get talked about enough.  If not Conwell, go hard after Hickman.

We need shooters.  If Ballo is coming we need even more shooters.  My personal preference is Rice, Conwell, Mgbako, Humrichous, and MR.  It sure sounds like it’s going to be Rice, Carlyle, Mgbako, MR, and Ballo.  I don’t love it, and we have to hope Rice and Carlyle up their percentages and MR can play more away from the basket because Ballo isn’t Ware and he will clog the paint and spacing is going to be an issue with explosive driving guards.  It’s a lot to ask for.  I like the players being talked about individually but it has to work as a team.  
 

Not going HARD after Conwell is a mistake, unless he has let it be known he isn’t interested.

I agree with everything you said. I will say, I believe they are going hard after conwell. A visit is likely and they are trying to schedule it. He is also my top choice, but the way things have played out might make him tough to get despite the mutual interest. 

[IU - Kaulie]

5 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

I agree with everything you said. I will say, I believe they are going hard after conwell. A visit is likely and they are trying to schedule it. He is also my top choice, but the way things have played out might make him tough to get despite the mutual interest. 

He is definitely my top choice.  I love Rice and super excited to get him.  If Carlyle wants to come too that’s awesome, but Conwell is the bigger play here.  Conwell is the big fish.  I can’t see anyone like Carlyle, Hickman, or Humrichous coming here to play off the bench but would be obviously ecstatic if that were somehow to happen.  I just don’t see it, plus you factor in Gallo who is playing HEAVY minutes starting or not.

[IUc2016]

24 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

He is definitely my top choice.  I love Rice and super excited to get him.  If Carlyle wants to come too that’s awesome, but Conwell is the bigger play here.  Conwell is the big fish.  I can’t see anyone like Carlyle, Hickman, or Humrichous coming here to play off the bench but would be obviously ecstatic if that were somehow to happen.  I just don’t see it, plus you factor in Gallo who is playing HEAVY minutes starting or not.

I think if we get conwell and any of the other three we are in great shape and expectations will be as high as ever, rightfully so

[dwtaylor1055]

Hulls, Hunter, Wash and Adam Howard follow Conwell via Instagram - interesting that no current player or recent past player(JHS/Ware/etc) follow Conwell. Very different from the others.