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1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

President of the Ryan Conwell Fan Club checking in. Absolutely. He would've been our best guard this season and it wouldn't have been particularly close, not that the bar was sky high. Big, strong lefty at 6'4 195 and I'd buy a little heavier than that. Can pull up from anywhere, catch and shoot, drive, has a solid handle. Trees aren't known for locking anyone up this season, but his physicals don't give me much pause as far as guarding at this level. In the NIT he's played against 3 P6 schools (counting SMU going to the ACC next year) that featured big, long athletes and has taken over all 3 games at certain points.

The no-brainiest of all no-brainers.

Agree physically he won’t have a problem. But I expect his numbers would dip simply from the offense of Schertz vs Woodson 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Countless reasons, including, but not limited to thinking they can win that starting job, location, and money

What starting jobs?  Reneau, MgBako, Perkins, and Tucker would all be promised starting jobs.  That most likely leaves a center that will be promised a starting job.  That leaves Galloway, Leal, Newton, and Cupps as backup guards.  These players we're hoping for backup guards are going to want to play and be promised a certain number of minutes.  That's not going to happen at IU if we get Perkins and Tucker. People on this board need to get realistic on what we can get.  

Posted
3 minutes ago, JF87 said:

What starting jobs?  Reneau, MgBako, Perkins, and Tucker would all be promised starting jobs.  That most likely leaves a center that will be promised a starting job.  That leaves Galloway, Leal, Newton, and Cupps as backup guards.  These players we're hoping for backup guards are going to want to play and be promised a certain number of minutes.  That's not going to happen at IU if we get Perkins and Tucker. People on this board need to get realistic on what we can get.  

This would be the worst perimeter shooting team any of us have seen in IU history. 

Posted
36 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

AJ Storr in the portal. Also declared for the draft.

Will be pretty surprised if he doesn’t stay in the draft. Imagine he’ll work out well enough to get a promise late in the 1st rd.

Posted
1 minute ago, FightFor6 said:

This would be the worst perimeter shooting team any of us have seen in IU history. 

You're correct, adding Perkins and Tucker as guaranteed starters to what we have would be a bad three-point shooting team.  I just keep reading that people think all these portal guards are willing and come and sit at IU.  We can get a starting point guard and a starting shooting guard.  The backup guard minutes will be eaten up by Galloway, Leal, Newton, and Cupps.  

Posted
7 minutes ago, JF87 said:

What starting jobs?  Reneau, MgBako, Perkins, and Tucker would all be promised starting jobs.  That most likely leaves a center that will be promised a starting job.  That leaves Galloway, Leal, Newton, and Cupps as backup guards.  These players we're hoping for backup guards are going to want to play and be promised a certain number of minutes.  That's not going to happen at IU if we get Perkins and Tucker. People on this board need to get realistic on what we can get.  

I know we see things the same way, so I'm not saying this in a combative way. RE: your last sentence, so true. With pretty much a blank slate roster for next year except for a few key players, not sure what exactly is realistic. I know what I expect. I know for all the talk about how talent was an issue this year... and the staff's chosen approach of waiting for the portal to build their roster... they better get as much talent as they can. Don't care how they sell these guys on it, just get them here. Let's see that NIL war chest put to good use. 

Ultimately I think we're expecting the same thing, which will be probably 2 or 3 impact players and then maybe 3 or 4 role players. 

Posted
11 minutes ago, JF87 said:

What starting jobs?  Reneau, MgBako, Perkins, and Tucker would all be promised starting jobs.  That most likely leaves a center that will be promised a starting job.  That leaves Galloway, Leal, Newton, and Cupps as backup guards.  These players we're hoping for backup guards are going to want to play and be promised a certain number of minutes.  That's not going to happen at IU if we get Perkins and Tucker. People on this board need to get realistic on what we can get.  

Coach Cig rule:  Nothing is promised, Everything is earned.  

Posted
19 minutes ago, JF87 said:

What starting jobs?  Reneau, MgBako, Perkins, and Tucker would all be promised starting jobs.  That most likely leaves a center that will be promised a starting job.  That leaves Galloway, Leal, Newton, and Cupps as backup guards.  These players we're hoping for backup guards are going to want to play and be promised a certain number of minutes.  That's not going to happen at IU if we get Perkins and Tucker. People on this board need to get realistic on what we can get.  

Tucker isn’t a guard.  If he’s promised a starting job and MM is back, if they are both starting then MM is the 4.  
 

The assumption that freshman coming in are automatically promised starting jobs is false.  TONS of high ranked players have went to Michigan State and not started and that is where Tucker was assumed to be going.  Think Booker was promised a starting position there?

Posted
3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Tucker isn’t a guard.  If he’s promised a starting job and MM is back, if they are both starting then MM is the 4.  
 

The assumption that freshman coming in are automatically promised starting jobs is false.  TONS of high ranked players have went to Michigan State and not started and that is where Tucker was assumed to be going.  Think Booker was promised a starting position there?

This is Indiana.  Mike Woodson definitely promises starting roles to players.  

Posted
1 minute ago, JF87 said:

That's definitely not the coach Woodson rule.  :)

I’m not disputing you but asking if you really know that he makes all these “I guarantee you will start” promises.  
By your calculation, if we land those guys, Gallo is definitely on the bench and if we also land Connell he would  automatically join Gallo on the bench due to other promises ?

I really hope that is not what is happening.

Posted
3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

You totally glossed over my first point about Tucker.  BTW, Tamar Bates was a high ranked incoming freshman at IU and he wasn’t a starter and he was here two years.

Tucker is a wing.  Most wings can play the small forward or the shooting guard role.  He's now a Hoosier.

 

Committed: IU basketball lands national top-20 class of 2024 5-star wing Bryson Tucker – The Daily Hoosier

Posted
4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

You totally glossed over my first point about Tucker.  BTW, Tamar Bates was a high ranked incoming freshman at IU and he wasn’t a starter and he was here two years.

And MR was very highly ranked but only started 3 games as a freshman. Guess he didn’t get the coveted promise.

Posted
6 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

You totally glossed over my first point about Tucker.  BTW, Tamar Bates was a high ranked incoming freshman at IU and he wasn’t a starter and he was here two years.

There have for sure been starting spots promised in the past. If Bates didn't get a promise that is his fault. Mgbako for sure did. Did Tucker, we'll find out later on. 

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