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[RaceToTheTop 31,256]

10 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I prefer Leal. That's great Goode is going to get his. Leal has a few post-season games, too, I believe. I don't really think either should, tbh. 

I agree. lol .... you didn't read that post correctly if you think I was criticizing him, you saw the sentence or two right above it when I listed an example of his leadership, yes? I know Goode is a leader; it's evident, the poster, I guess, doesn't. 

I don't know that Goode will absolutely get his, just my gut says he will.

[hoosierbgh 1,276]

Leal certainly makes for a good Rorschach Test. Some look at his career and see an average to above player that was used poorly. Others have a much firmer connection to reality. 

All joking aside, I can't recall any other IU player that was so acclaimed by so many and has generated so much debate with so little apparent accomplishment to base it on. Every year it seems fans have a player or two we misunderstand, its been kind of nice to have Leal as one we misunderstand in a positive way for once. 

[Home Jersey 16,275]

Just now, hoosierbgh said:

Leal certainly makes for a good Rorschach Test. Some look at his career and see an average to above player that was used poorly. Others have a much firmer connection to reality. 

All joking aside, I can't recall any other IU player that was so acclaimed by so many and has generated so much debate with so little apparent accomplishment to base it on. Every year it seems fans have a player or two we misunderstand, it’s been kind of nice to have Leal as one we misunderstand in a positive way for once. 

Don’t see anybody showering Leal with a bunch of outlandish praise or claiming he’d be a difference maker. Just differences of opinion in how valuable he is as a defender and whether people want him as 12 or 13 on the roster.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,310]

9 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

By the same token he also wasn't out there to avoid scoring.  I like what he did and feel his minutes were deserved but there were times when his not even looking at the basket hurt.

Don't think he was avoiding it. But he was never going to force it. Wasn't his role.

[hoosierbannerd 3,532]

1 hour ago, ebridges24 said:

had many beagles as a kid, they all loved to bark

Had many beagles growing up as my Dad was a rabbit hunter. Anyway, one of my sisters accidentally left a cage unhooked and one ran away never to be found.. I give her crap about stuff we did as kids, but never that... losing a dog hurts regardless...

[Mopladysman 1,449]

42 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Almost like he wasn't out there to score.

Yea scoring would have really sucked. 

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5 minutes ago, Mopladysman said:

Yea scoring would have really sucked. 

Wasn't his job.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 12,066]

5 minutes ago, Mopladysman said:

Yea scoring would have really sucked. 

playing modern basketball would have too

[Mopladysman 1,449]

5 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Wasn't his job.

Isnt it strange you guys are criticizing Woodson for "ruining" Leal when Leal himself said he was the coach he would trust beyond any other?  

[schoosier 3,741]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I’m not a Goode fan, but I dislike him a lot less than I dislike Leal. Goode played 3 years at a good program, played 20 mpg on an elite 8 team, and then joined the mess that was Mike Woodson’s basketball program. He probably didn’t know what he was getting himself into. Leal has been at IU for 5 unremarkable years. We have plenty of other guards. If you’re keeping one of them, keep Goode and then get a big with the other spot. 

I like Goode and hope he gets another year. Leal…don’t feel the same and don’t want anymore run it back bs. Goode needs to work on his handle and penetration game along with defense and Leal needs to work on selling Btown real estate.

[IUGRAD06 981]

38 minutes ago, hoosierbgh said:

Leal certainly makes for a good Rorschach Test. Some look at his career and see an average to above player that was used poorly. Others have a much firmer connection to reality. 

All joking aside, I can't recall any other IU player that was so acclaimed by so many and has generated so much debate with so little apparent accomplishment to base it on. Every year it seems fans have a player or two we misunderstand, it’s been kind of nice to have Leal as one we misunderstand in a positive way for once. 

Our best year during his tenure was when he played in 11 games and 2 mpg. 

[DChoosier 9,843]

I am hoping Leal wins but only plays 5 or so games. That will allow him to participate in his third senior night, then receive a 7th year from the NCAA (because he only played in 5 games) followed by his fourth senior night. A record that might never be broken.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 12,066]

14 minutes ago, Mopladysman said:

Isnt it strange you guys are criticizing Woodson for "ruining" Leal when Leal himself said he was the coach he would trust beyond any other?  

Haven't seen this much

3 minutes ago, IUGRAD06 said:

Our best year during his tenure was when he played in 11 games and 2 mpg. 

and that's basically the role we want him in this year.... 

[IUGRAD06 981]

9 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Haven't seen this much

and that's basically the role we want him in this year.... 

I just don’t get bringing him back.  Understand the politics of it but Jesus if he is playing we suck.  I don’t understand the logic of getting a guy that just doesn’t want to get a job over a developmental player.  

Goode I would like back as he played 20 mpg for an elite 8 team and his shooting would be a plus in DeVries system.  

[Hoosier987 2,819]

16 minutes ago, schoosier said:

I like Goode and hope he gets another year. Leal…don’t feel the same and don’t want anymore run it back bs. Goode needs to work on his handle and penetration game along with defense and Leal needs to work on selling Btown real estate.

GOODE + BIG >>>> GOODE + LEAL

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 12,066]

5 minutes ago, IUGRAD06 said:

I just don’t get bringing him back.  Understand the politics of it but Jesus if he is playing we suck.  I don’t understand the logic of getting a developmental player over a guy that just doesn’t want to get a job.  
 

Goode I would like back as he played 20 mpg for an elite 8 team and his shooting would be a plus in DeVries system.  

Oh. Ok ... I prefer Leal over Goode. 

But, like I said in the last post, every post, 11 games 2min per game... yeah seems about right.

[IUGRAD06 981]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Oh. Ok ... I prefer Leal over Goode. 

Why.  Just want to hear the reason.  I have heard some insanely dumb reasons.  

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 12,066]

22 minutes ago, IUGRAD06 said:

Why.  Just want to hear the reason.  I have heard some insanely dumb reasons.  

He complements the rest of the roster better, and he can keep the ball in front of him defensively. He's a more effective cutter, a better passer. 

Anything outside of shooting, he's better to a lot better than Goode, IMO. 

[Hoosierfan2017 25,022]

1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

Don’t see anybody showering Leal with a bunch of outlandish praise or claiming he’d be a difference maker. Just differences of opinion in how valuable he is as a defender and whether people want him as 12 or 13 on the roster.

I just don’t want to see it as adding a 12 or 13 to the roster. It’s only adding a 12 or 13 to the roster if we can’t land someone better than the 1-11 we currently have. Ideally we’d add a 7 or 8 (or better, of course). And if we’re not adding a 7 or 8, I’d rather add a freshman 12 or 13 who could develop into a 1-8 rather than a sixth year senior one. 

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Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I just don’t want to see it as adding a 12 or 13 to the roster. It’s only adding a 12 or 13 to the roster if we can’t land someone better than the 1-11 we currently have. Ideally we’d add a 7 or 8 (or better, of course). 

That’s a fair take for sure.