Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[CSP]

Just now, AZ Hoosier said:

I understand the not leaving a scholarship open... get someone who may develop into a usable piece next year... or someone who can help bang in practice...

For me, the biggest part of the issue is the status of Luke Goode. Clearly, he's a valuable piece if he can get the extra year (and I've seen hints online both ways in that regard). If Goode is able to come back, that's a much better option than using the scholarship for a "filler" guy.

But leaving an open scholarship makes no sense at all.

I think I value him less than some with whom we've gained in the portal. I would expect the final two spots to be filled with guys who are valued more than a "filler", even if they wouldn't see the floor much. 

I know the 7ft foreign route bothered some posters by Crean.... but I actually liked it lol 

[Ryno6284]

12 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I think I value him less than some with whom we've gained in the portal. I would expect the final two spots to be filled with guys who are valued more than a "filler", even if they wouldn't see the floor much. 

I know the 7ft foreign route bothered some posters by Crean.... but I actually liked it lol 

I would like him in a grad assistant role on the bench, or something along those lines coaching wise!

[Demo]

23 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I know the 7ft foreign route bothered some posters by Crean.... but I actually liked it lol 

Ditto. The last 2 scholly’s are never gonna play so I’ve always loved giving 1 to some raw toolsy kid and working with them for a year. If they hit you stole one and if they don’t you move on to the next one, no harm, no foul.

[CSP]

2 minutes ago, Demo said:

Ditto. The last 2 scholly’s are never gonna play so I’ve always loved giving 1 to some raw tools guy and working with them for a year. If they hit you stole a kid and if they don’t you move on to the next one, no harm, no foul.

correct... also... gives us big bodies to go against in practice. I would have certainly preferred CTC to have a higher "hit" rate... but I don't think that means the strategy was wrong. 

[Eagle’s Rug]

13 minutes ago, Demo said:

Ditto. The last 2 scholly’s are never gonna play so I’ve always loved giving 1 to some raw toolsy kid and working with them for a year. If they hit you stole one and if they don’t you move on to the next one, no harm, no foul.

Not a criticism, but have we hit on any of those?

[tyappleg]

23 minutes ago, Eagle’s Rug said:

Not a criticism, but have we hit on any of those?

OG

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

2 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

I guess I don’t see anyone claiming that the team is doomed, just that they were hoping to make a bigger splash with the resources. Personally I’m not that concerned with those optics but this is an IUBB message board and there’s going to be opinions we don’t always agree with. During the offseason is peak time to be overly analytical / anxious / skeptical. The only point I’m making is you can debate the merits without mocking and people can draw their own conclusion of who is unreasonable or not. 

Serious question… where would they make a bigger splash from? He had to fill out an entire roster. He didn’t have the luxury of having an already established roster where he could fill in 1-2 spots and pay $3-$4m while also bringing in a couple top prospects. I think once he is established for a couple of years then I can see the expectations changing in getting the top prospect guys who you have to pay a crap ton to get

[Jet812]

10 minutes ago, Eagle’s Rug said:

Not a criticism, but have we hit on any of those?

The only relevant question is whether CDD has ever hit on any, school is unlikely to play into success rates.

[moyemayhem]

43 minutes ago, Eagle’s Rug said:

Not a criticism, but have we hit on any of those?

Most considered Oladipo a raw toolsy kid when he was recruited.  Great athlete with very limited skills.

[tyappleg]

3 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

Sure but the board is a lot more enjoyable when we can all put the snark aside (I’m as guilty as anyone of that from time to time) and just talk ball. It’s tougher to do that in the offseason but plenty of legit basketball stuff to talk about with a new staff and roster and two more spots to fill. We can disagree without calling each other’s thought processes stupid lol, even if I agree it’s a little reactionary at this point to be unimpressed. 

I'll stick with snark, thanks. 

[schoosier]

Niko Bundalo 6’10” reopening recruitment. OH native do we have room?

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

10 minutes ago, schoosier said:

Niko Bundalo 6’10” reopening recruitment. OH native do we have room?

I definitely think it’s worth looking into and I bet we have the money to pay him

[tyappleg]

For the record, there are plenty of valid reasons to be apprehensive about next year.  We will have 12 new players mostly from mid major level without a ton of size.  Those are all valid.  However, worrying about whether Indiana is preseason top 25 in year 1 of a full team rebuild shouldn't be a concern at this point.

Ending the season in the top 25 is what matters.  If you end the season strong, and bring back 5+ players from that team, that's when you will start getting respected in the preseason. Can this team do it?  I think so; but only time will tell.

I maybe shouldn't have used the word stupid, however I stand by my point. 

[DChoosier]

1 hour ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

Serious question… where would they make a bigger splash from? He had to fill out an entire roster. He didn’t have the luxury of having an already established roster where he could fill in 1-2 spots and pay $3-$4m while also bringing in a couple top prospects. I think once he is established for a couple of years then I can see the expectations changing in getting the top prospect guys who you have to pay a crap ton to get

Why would having a nearly full roster open up $3-4mm for a couple of top guys? It’s not as if the”existing” guys on a roster make next to nothing. 

[AH1971]

10 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

Why would having a nearly full roster open up $3-4mm for a couple of top guys? It’s not as if the”existing” guys on a roster make next to nothing. 

Depends on who is back from your existing roster. A team that returns most of their bench and one or two starters has a lot more money to throw at one or two top level players. Every team likely has a budget and then a max spend if necessary, and I'm sure that not every team fills that budget.

Based on who DeVries has brought in, I would be surprised if IU is at the top of their budget yet...unless they are just wildly overpaying to fill the roster.

[Juwan Moye]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Depends on who is back from your existing roster. A team that returns most of their bench and one or two starters has a lot more money to throw at one or two top level players. Every team likely has a budget and then a max spend if necessary, and I'm sure that not every team fills that budget.

Based on who DeVries has brought in, I would be surprised if IU is at the top of their budget yet...unless they are just wildly overpaying to fill the roster.

If the report that Game Cupps got $600k from Ohio State is true then you’ve got to assume that most of our players got at least that.

Guys like Devries, Bailey, and Wilkerson are probably closer to $2m than $1m.

[AH1971]

2 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

If the report that Game Cupps got $600k from Ohio State is true then you’ve got to assume that most of our players got at least that.

Guys like Devries, Bailey, and Wilkerson are probably closer to $2m than $1m.

Maybe although I highly doubt every P5 bench player is making $600k or even close to that. 

[CSP]

Could you imagine paying 600k for Cupps lol 

[DChoosier]

5 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Depends on who is back from your existing roster. A team that returns most of their bench and one or two starters has a lot more money to throw at one or two top level players. Every team likely has a budget and then a max spend if necessary, and I'm sure that not every team fills that budget.

Based on who DeVries has brought in, I would be surprised if IU is at the top of their budget yet...unless they are just wildly overpaying to fill the roster.

I don’t get it. Are you saying you pay more for bench players if they are “new” but the existing bench players accept making less than market value ?

 

 

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, DChoosier said:

I don’t get it. Are you saying you pay more for bench players if they are “new” but the existing bench players accept making less than market value ?

 

 

That's exactly what I'm saying. I would say an overwhelmingly large majority of guys in the portal looking to be paid "market value" end up in a much worse situation.