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Class of '66 Old Fart

Transfer Portal w IU Interest

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Virtually no one bought an IU basketball ticket last year because they wanted to watch Ballo or Reneau play basketball. They bought a ticket to watch Indiana University play basketball. This will because even more the case as we get deeper into the transfer portal era and players continue cycling in and out every year. A Bloomington Bears semi-pro game with the same players might get 1,000 fans in the seats. 

Players are “worth” whatever someone is willing to pay them, but they aren’t being paid for their NIL. I disagree with the “players are making schools so much money and weren’t getting paid anything for it” stance that I see from so many. The schools are the brands. The schools are why people watch the games. Every now and then there are players who buck that trend such as CC at Iowa last year. But the average run of the mill D1 player is an interchangeable cog in the wheel.

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2 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

WAYYYY more. Duke is a brand and basketball is the window into the institution. They are world famous for basketball and academics. Cooper Flagg is THE biggest ambassador to the brand they have currently and that will carry on for a long time. Players like him help with viewership, butts in seats, apparel, merchandise, contract with Nike, donations, rev sharing, tournament payouts, licensing, applications/enrollment etc etc. 

No HE didn't. They were world-famous before he showed up. 

They'd have butts in seats whether or not he was there, same with everything else you mentioend. HE did not make Duke 4.8 million and even then... a net zero return on investment? bad business. 

If the conference, other teams, ESPN were paying, Nike....... then we can get into those talks. 

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4 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Let's put it this way if Cooper Flagg put on the Indiana Mad Ants uniform would his brand be as valuable than him playing for Duke. No it is because he is wearing the Duke uniform 

How did the Duke brand get to where it is today?

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3 minutes ago, hotjawns said:

just go off on these insane tangents and it makes finding info impossible lol … getting outta hand 

No info rn.... well, other than Rabby's journalist touch right @PartyintheVillas

5 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Hopefully not the Bobbett who took a knife to her husband’s member

jesus you're sadistic 

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3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Virtually no one bought an IU basketball ticket last year because they wanted to watch Ballo or Reneau play basketball. They bought a ticket to watch Indiana University play basketball. This will because even more the case as we get deeper into the transfer portal era and players continue cycling in and out every year. A Bloomington Bears semi-pro game with the same players might get 1,000 fans in the seats. 

Players are “worth” whatever someone is willing to pay them, but they aren’t being paid for their NIL. I disagree with the “players are making schools so much money and weren’t getting paid anything for it” stance that I see from so many. The schools are the brands. The schools are why people watch the games. Every now and then there are players who buck that trend such as CC at Iowa last year. But the average run of the mill D1 player is an interchangeable cog in the wheel.

You're vastly underestimating big money college athletics and how it pertains to university marketing. Why do you think so many athletic departments are content to operate in the red, sometimes $10-20 million dollars? None of that happens without good players and coaches who win games and championships. It's not the players faults the NCAA ran an illegal model for as long as they did. 

Research the University of Alabama's enrollment spike and tuition hike the last 20 years, a timeframe that directly coincides Saban's dominance. Both have nearly doubled in a 20 year frame. Whatever Saban was making, he was worth 10x more the university....as were the kids he recruited who won him games. 

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16 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

There are 32 NFL teams, 30 MLB, 30 NBA..... compare that to the number of NCAA teams. 

It does not apply 

Most of the NCAA teams do not apply as they do not, and cannot, pay the players a ton of dough. They are similar in attendance, pay etc as triple A to MLB.

A $8,000,000 a year NBA bench player would not make that money if it wasn’t for the NBA jersey he is wearing (ie just like the college kids wearing an IU jersey).

If you think people would shell out hundreds of dollars for tickets, thousands for suites, tv would pay billions (all which enable bench dudes to make 3-10mm a year) to watch those bench players compete against each other outside of the NBA more power to you. I stand by my comment that they are as dependent on the front of the jersey as college kids.

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