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[WayneFleekHoosier 51,262]

People were excited about Cupps the same way they are excited about Enright. I tried to have Cupps discussions too but was flamed down. I’ve stated my peace in Enright. I think Bailey and DeVries are defensive liabilities but cool and exciting offensive pieces. I don’t like many of our rumored targets even. It’s just been rough. People aren’t going portaling much now. When does it close?

 

 

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[Uspshoosier 54,220]

5 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

It’s honestly been a mess since the coach search started if we are being honest with ourselves.

Not really at least not for me.   I knew most fans would lose their minds thinking IU could buy their way back to top but it doesn’t work that way.    It is what it is.  IU isn’t the IU of the 80s or 90s no matter how bad their fans want them to be.   IU needs to get in line and grind their way back up the ladder.   No shortcuts.  IU is just another program with higher expectations then other non special programs 

[HinnyHoosier 6,596]

1 minute ago, BA47591 said:

Real quick,,,,

How many of you would bone Rachel Dratch? 

Shhhh. Nobody say anything.

[Hoosierfan2017 24,794]

8 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Looks like he landed 2 assistant coaches from sitting power 5 teams.  For a middle of a pack B1G team in my opinion that’s a good step.   Adam’s is known as a recruiter with Midwest and Indiana ties which is huge and Kenny Johnson is known as big time recruiter.  A lot more realistic move for IU to steal him instead of 2 assistants from Elite 8 level teams that their programs can match in money.   

You can repeat the “middle of the pack B1G team” line as much as you want, but the sole reason IU has been a middle of the pack team is because of coaching. There’s absolutely nothing from an IU standpoint holding DeVries back. He has better resources than nearly every other team in the conference. Johnson seems like a good hire but Adams is meh. 

[Uspshoosier 54,220]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

but the sole reason IU has been a middle of the pack team is because of coaching

In your opinion 

[Hoosierfan2017 24,794]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

In your opinion 

Nope 

[Uspshoosier 54,220]

Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Nope 

Yep 

[HinnyHoosier 6,596]

35 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

DeVries job is to get a middle of the pack B1G program competing for conference titles and having more the 1 winning conference record in a 9 year span.    Don’t care how much money a struggling program has they still have to grind to dig their way out of the hole that was made.   No skipping ahead of the line no matter how bad the fans of a mediocre B1G program want to.   Embrace the grind or be miserable.  This is where your program is at and has been at.  

Abso-freaking-lutely.

 

[iubb 4,714]

Nope 

Yes. Its your opinion. Just because its negative does not make it gospel.

 

 

Being this negative is not good for your health my man.

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,262]

C'mon. He has little to nothing to close with. He's an unknown to a lot of these kids. No national exposure yet. And all they know of Indiana is the recent crap storm it's been. So no, he's not closing on a lot of guys right now. He does in fact have his work cut out for him and I think it's time to align the expectation to match.

Then it’s a Dolson failure. If you have top resources, you get a guy that HAS something to close with. And you use those resources to close and then win.

Beard for example would’ve put us back on the map immediately. Maybe even Will Wade.

Pay enough to coax someone else with Swagger.

Like I say, Woodson basketball was awful and I’m just ready for anything else. So for that, I’m happy.

However we didn’t have to blue collar our way back into this thing with our resources. Like I’ve said elsewhere, this is the Cubs approach to things. Fanbase will support regardless, but I’d imagine we’ve got to be closing in on testing that theory with this hire.


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[Hoosierfan2017 24,794]

3 minutes ago, iubb said:

Yes. Its your opinion. Just because its negative does not make it gospel.

 

 

Being this negative is not good for your health my man.

Enlighten us then oh wise one. If not coaching, why has IU been a middle of the pack B1G team? 

[8bucks 7,508]

1 hour ago, DSUMMITT said:

My wife swears she saw him when I went to get the car. Drove up in a black SUV - so that woulda been around 7pm (our reservation was 5:30 and we were leaving). So if she really did - showed her a pic and she says it was him - then he was still talking to the coaches till very recently.

Who was “him”?  Wilkerson?  In one post you suggest only coaches were there but in this one “him” drove up to be seen by your wife 

[Magisterium 474]

17 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

A new coach at a middle of the pack B1G program tried to convince assistant coaches that he had ties with to leave their current position at programs where they have been to the Final 4 and Elite 8 multiple times since the last time IU had and fans are mad they couldn’t pull them.  lol talk about sunshine pumping.   Take a look at where the program you are invested in is at and other then money (which the schools they are at currently matched) why are they moving from programs that are rolling to a program that is starting from scratch.  Pretty big leap of faith.  Good on DeVries for trying to bring them along but come on people really think someone was leaving Bama right now for IU in 2025 not the 1980s 

Maybe in retrospect DDV would’ve been better served to just initially go after other more obtainable coaches and have a full complement of 5 assistants on campus and recruiting now instead of spending as much time as he did waiting on Murphy and Moikobu. I guess he hoped that friendships would matter more than they ultimately did.

[iubb 4,714]

Enlighten us then oh wise one. If not coaching, why has IU been a middle of the pack B1G team? 

THE SEASON HAS NOT STARTED YET. If you are already considering this year a failure there is no point in arguing with you further


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3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

You can repeat the “middle of the pack B1G team” line as much as you want, but the sole reason IU has been a middle of the pack team is because of coaching. There’s absolutely nothing from an IU standpoint holding DeVries back. He has better resources than nearly every other team in the conference. Johnson seems like a good hire but Adams is meh. 

Idk about this. Fair to question IMO. Not to sound all Scotty R, sorry Scotty lol. We can have all the money and playing time in the world. Other factors about IU exist that players take into consideration. All things considered it’s easy to see why IU wouldn’t be in many talented kids top few choices right now, even/especially with a new coach. He seemed to recruit to WVU just fine. So early at IU and not much continuity from WVU to bring in the first place. Maybe it gets easier after he shows he can win here. We always say IUBB is different… it is… when we are good that’s a good thing. When we are as bad as we have been the last 25 years, it seems like a self-sustaining issue that’s got a lot to do with IU independent of coaching. Gonna take time to see any results.

[Josh 13,229]

We're already at the point where anybody expressing concerns gets called names like negative and is told he just needs more time?

Man some of you never learn

[BA47591 962]

1 minute ago, Magisterium said:

Maybe in retrospect DDV would’ve been better served to just initially go after other more obtainable coaches and have a full complement of 5 assistants on campus and recruiting now instead of spending as much time as he did waiting on Murphy and Moikobu. I guess he hoped that friendships would matter more than they ultimately did.

This is a nice way of saying it. 

If I may add? I have to believe the wtf factor got dialed up when we now have two former CTC assistants. It's not a great look. 

[HoosierHoopster 8,188]

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Crean built IU back from complete scratch. Zero schollys, in a few years, to a team that had the talent to compete at the top of the ladder.

IU is not the program we know to most HS players, it is not a destination program now, but it does have the resources, facilities, donor support, player and AAU base locally and regionally, fanbase - basketball religion, and history that can still be sold to players. 
 

I don’t think it’s faur/accurate to say it’s just another program. Most programs do not have the depth of resources, facilities etc that IU does. So not a Duke/KU shine right now, but it is a program that like under Crean can be built back up fairly quickly under a good coach/staff including strong recruiters

[Hoosierfan2017 24,794]

5 minutes ago, iubb said:

THE SEASON HAS NOT STARTED YET. If you are already considering this year a failure there is no point in arguing with you further


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Follow along with the conversation. The message you’re responding to was about IU being a middle of the pack team in recent history. IU was a middle of the pack conference team the past 8 seasons because Archie and Woody were terrible coaches. You said that’s an “opinion.” So, if it’s not true, why has IU been a middle of the pack team the past 8 or so seasons? 

[DSUMMITT 443]

7 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Who was “him”?  Wilkerson?  In one post you suggest only coaches were there but in this one “him” drove up to be seen by your wife 

Sorry yes it was Lamar. Coach walked in with his family while I was walking out to get car - i passed the asst coaches as I was right outside. Wife stuck around to help my inlaw as I got the car - she needs help getting in car. So i did not see Lamar go in but she swears she did after I left.