The Case for Josh Schertz

[Uspshoosier]

14 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

................................................................we'll take it?

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[Hovadipo]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://www.terrehautecasino.com/hotel/pool-area/
opens April 5th 

Was pretty disappointed when they announced it was opening a couple weeks after the opening rounds of the tourney. Really excited to check out the sportsbook.

[Truthhurts]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

May has had a winning season every year at FAU. They had 0 winning seasons before he got there in school history. So let's not diminish one of them to build up the other. They are both good candidates and good friends. They spend a few days with each other every off-season. I believe they're going to spend time in Terre Haute this summer. 

Record is an imperfect measure of performance if we’re trying to identify the best coach. 
 

I’m not trying to disparage Dusty. The reality is, though, his *BEST* team in the four years before he nabbed this current group of players was 129th in KenPom. That’s just flat out not very good, winning record or not. And again - that was the best team he had. 
 

Schertz was able to muster a top 100 team at Indiana State in just year 2 at Indiana State. 
 

Dusty seems to be a capable coach. But I’m not convinced he’s special. People are falling  for him here more than they should because he has a tie to IU and happened to go on a deep run last season. Those aren’t sufficient bases to favor him over a guy who’s been elite for like 15 straight seasons as a head coach and who plays mathematically perfect modern basketball. 
 

We have a chance to get someone special. I have no faith we will. But the chance is out there. 

Edited February 6, 2024 by Truthhurts

[Adillac]

4 minutes ago, Truthhurts said:

Record is an imperfect measure of performance if we’re trying to identify the best coach. 
 

I’m not trying to disparage Dusty. The reality is, though, his *BEST* team in the four years before he nabbed this current group of players was 129th in KenPom. That’s just flat out not very good, winning record or not. And again - that was the best team he had. 
 

Schertz was able to muster a top 100 team at Indiana State in just year 2 at Indiana State. 
 

Dusty seems to be a capable coach. But I’m not convinced he’s special. People are falling  for him here more than they should because he has a tie to IU and happened to go on a deep run last season. Those aren’t sufficient bases to favor him over a guy who’s been elite for like 15 straight seasons as a head coach and who plays mathematically perfect modern basketball. 
 

We have a chance to get someone special. I have no faith we will. But the chance is out there. 

Agree 100%.

[Muskie for three]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

I love The Haute, but gotta question Dusty's vacation destinations...

Summered in Terre Haute with family as a youth.  The family still lives in area.

[Muskie for three]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

Was pretty disappointed when they announced it was opening a couple weeks after the opening rounds of the tourney. Really excited to check out the sportsbook.

Shameless plug . Riley legion post 328 . Right down  the road folks . Good place to drown your sorrows . After losing the mortgage payment . 

[ISP]

On 2/5/2024 at 11:28 AM, Truthhurts said:

Dusty May has been a head coach for six years and for four of them his teams were not any good. Can’t be sure FAU’s 1.5 seasons of success is really him being a great coach or him stumbling into a good couple of players for a flash in the pan success. 

Schertz on the other hand absolutely dominated for a decade+ at LMU and now has freaking Indiana State playing like a S16 team in just his third season there. Not to mention, again, he’s playing mathematically perfect basketball from a shot quality stand point. He’s the real deal. You absolutely want him over Dusty May, whose main qualification for the IU job is one deep march run and ties to Bloomington. 
 

 

 

Come on now, this is just lazy. 

Dusty took over a FAU program that has been 200+ in KenPom rating since the day KenPom was created. 

The year BEFORE he took them to the Final 4, he had them at their all-time high in KenPom. 

Then he took them to the Final 4 and was a buzzer beater away from the championship game. 

Then FAU moved up in conference into a very strong AAC. And he has FAU #1 in the AAC and top 25 all season. 

FAU has 10 winning seasons in history, Dusty has 6 of them (in 6 years). 

FAU had never had a single digit loss season, Dusty is about to have 2 of them. 

He built a program out of absolutely nothing. 

 

I'd take Dusty or Josh any day of the week. 

 

Edited February 6, 2024 by ISP

[OliviaPope40]

22 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Can she just coach the men's team?

Can we have some of her players?

Edited February 6, 2024 by OliviaPope40

[hper50]

1 minute ago, OliviaPope40 said:

Can we have some of her players?

Just let Sara Scalia shoot any time she crosses half court!

[OliviaPope40]

1 minute ago, hper50 said:

Just let Sara Scalia shoot any time she crosses half court!

That's what I'm saying! Could use her three point shooting.

Edited February 6, 2024 by OliviaPope40

[Uspshoosier]

20 minutes ago, ISP said:

Then FAU moved up in conference into a very strong AAC

You make some great points except for the this one.   American isn’t very strong.   While better than conference USA it’s just not a very good league.   Most USAs good teams moved over as well but it’s still only a 1 bid league 2 at best.   Memphis is trending down for an at-large so it could be the case if FAU wins the conference tourney they would be the only team that’s makes the tourney 

[str8baller]

4 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Anyone that is pretty sure that May's or Schertz's record is a strong predictor of future success should take a look at the above listed record of Steve Prohm before and during his first P5 job:

Steve Prohm:

Much like Archie, Prohm took over a mid major that was already rolling. Nothing wrong with that, but building a program out of nothing is a stronger indicator, imo. 

[TTT]

Observation on Josh Schertz press conference:  I like coaches who can point out mistakes, things he wasn’t satisfied with, and negatives the coach observed included with what players and team did well in a 101 to 61 win.  It keeps perspective on what goes on in the game and the win.

Some coaches if they get a one point win don’t do this.  

Woodson and staff lean towards the later.

[JF87]

11 minutes ago, TTT said:

Observation on Josh Schertz press conference:  I like coaches who can point out mistakes, things he wasn’t satisfied with, and negatives the coach observed included with what players and team did well in a 101 to 61 win.  It keeps perspective on what goes on in the game and the win.

Some coaches if they get a one point win don’t do this.  

Woodson and staff lean towards the later.

Woodson always has two talking points.  The players aren't executing, and the players have difficulty getting over the hump. 

[TTT]

2 hours ago, JF87 said:

Woodson always has two talking points.  The players aren't executing, and the players have difficulty getting over the hump. 

Him and the whole staff lack depth in any conversation….oh man we won that game.

[JSHoosier]

2 hours ago, JF87 said:

Woodson always has two talking points.  The players aren't executing, and the players have difficulty getting over the hump. 

You forgot one, saying he won't answer that question to media or fans.

[TTT]

Indiana State (and Schertz have some good recruits coming in… maybe Indiana State can renegotiate his contract to keep others at bay unless it would be a big time power 5)

24-25 recruits Merritt Alderink 6’7” New Zealand, Michigan;  Robert Sean 6’8” Njardvik, Iceland;  Christian Nitu 6’11” Uplay, Canada….being creative to be successful with players coming back.

little bit of PJ Carlesimo flavor Seton Hall

[Adillac]

Granted, I'm in the Bob Knight camp in terms of what I think of the media/reporters...and so I think the questions asked are usually pretty dumb and so I don't fault Woodson for not liking to answer or thinking the questions are dumb, because most of the time they are. 

Having said that, Woodson post game interviews really only contain a few lines of response:

1. We just gotta keep workin', man.

2. (insert positive occurence)...which was kinda nice.

3. The hump.

[pat the table with both hands]

4. Next man up.

 

[Hornsby]

Granted, I'm in the Bob Knight camp in terms of what I think of the media/reporters...and so I think the questions asked are usually pretty dumb and so I don't fault Woodson for not liking to answer or thinking the questions are dumb, because most of the time they are. 
Having said that, Woodson post game interviews really only contain a few lines of response:
1. We just gotta keep workin', man.
2. (insert positive occurence)...which was kinda nice.
3. The hump.
[pat the table with both hands]
4. Next man up.
 

Lol it's going to be a big hump at purdue.

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[go iu bb]

1 hour ago, Adillac said:

Granted, I'm in the Bob Knight camp in terms of what I think of the media/reporters...and so I think the questions asked are usually pretty dumb and so I don't fault Woodson for not liking to answer or thinking the questions are dumb, because most of the time they are. 

Having said that, Woodson post game interviews really only contain a few lines of response:

1. We just gotta keep workin', man.

2. (insert positive occurence)...which was kinda nice.

3. The hump.

[pat the table with both hands]

4. Next man up.

 

It's a new team