They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

I fully understand how some people feel towards Scott Dolson throughout this mess but IMO he's been tiptoeing through a minefield.  I truly believe he wanted to make the change last year but QB and the big $$ came to Woody's rescue.  Like it or not, Dolson can't just flip off those big $ donors and thus we got another year.  Ferguson and the others aren't stupid.  They can see their money that Woody used to buy a team might as well have been flushed down a toilet.  They know the animosity Woody has created among the fan base.  Unless the current governor makes a gigantic mistake and reappoints QB to the BOT, his influence is gone.  The hiring of Coach Cig and his immediate success have also bought Dolson political capital to bring this disaster to an end.  This nightmare is over.

What would be the perfect solution is if these 2 guys could magically do their thing with the entire IU fanbase.

[DougJr74]

I rewound the game. You can see Ya getting mad at CMW. Then CMW saying something to him at the beginning of the timeout after the made 3. You can also see Goode stop CMW from leaving the court before shaking hands. 

 

Edited January 27, 2025 by DougJr74

[BlueDevil]

2 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I fully understand how some people feel towards Scott Dolson throughout this mess but IMO he's been tiptoeing through a minefield.  I truly believe he wanted to make the change last year but QB and the big $$ came to Woody's rescue.  Like it or not, Dolson can't just flip off those big $ donors and thus we got another year.  Ferguson and the others aren't stupid.  They can see their money that Woody used to buy a team might as well have been flushed down a toilet.  They know the animosity Woody has created among the fan base.  Unless the current governor makes a gigantic mistake and reappoints QB to the BOT, his influence is gone.  The hiring of Coach Cig and his immediate success have also bought Dolson political capital to bring this disaster to an end.  This nightmare is over.

What would be the perfect solution is if these 2 guys could magically do their thing with the entire IU fanbase.

That thing needs a big @$$ battery to erase the memory of the last 25 years 

[ap2345]

8 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

Will be or would be?

Tomato, Tamato 

[ap2345]

8 minutes ago, DougJr74 said:

I rewound the game. You can see Ya getting mad at CMW. Then CMW saying something to him at the beginning of the timeout after the made 3. You can also see Goode stop CMW from leaving the court before shaking hands. 

 

At the end of the game?

[madtownhoosier]

Ok, three things:  1) Chris, you gotta fill us in on this after the locker room thing.  

2)  Did we hear anymore from JerryYeagley on the interesting texts from last night

3) Interim has to be Kenya.  He has head coaching aspirations, not sure about Ya, maybe he does too.  Regardless, I can see the possibility that none of the coaches want the interim job while Woody is still around.  But if you make it clear Woody is gone no matter what, I think that lessens the friction of one of them taking over.  Just my thoughts.  

[KYHoosier]

53 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think Scott was taking in how dysfunctional our whole basketball program was yesterday. He has a lot to work with moving forward. 

The entire basketball program needs to be overhauled. I like Hulls, Walsh, and Cliff, but everyone outside of Garl needs to be let go. We have to get rid of the losing culture and mediocrity that has been established by the last two head coaches.
 

They will not fire Woody before the season is over, but I what they should do is announce soon that he will retire at the end of the season. That helps protect his image, ease the frustration of the fan base, and allow these players to go out and play loose. It seems obvious and I’m sure it is to Dolson, but Woody seems arrogant enough to fight against a plan like this. I truly believe he thinks he is doing a fine job. I’m glad his time as our coach is nearing an end.

[DougJr74]

Yes

 

[DougJr74]

1 minute ago, ap2345 said:

At the end of the game?

Yes

[Chris007]

3 minutes ago, DougJr74 said:

Yes

They were arguing over whether to foul or not. Ya knew we had a foul to give and wanted to use it. Woodson was saying there was too much time left to foul. We didn't use it and they made the 3. Rosemond was not happy about it. 

[DougJr74]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

They were arguing over whether to foul or not. Ya knew we had a foul to give and wanted to use it. Woodson was saying there was too much time left to foul. We didn't use it and they made the 3. Rosemond was not happy about it. 

Typical CMW. Don't foul. Just let them shoot a 3 and win. Should've fouled and reset the defense. 

[Chris007]

7 minutes ago, madtownhoosier said:

Ok, three things:  1) Chris, you gotta fill us in on this after the locker room thing.  

2)  Did we hear anymore from JerryYeagley on the interesting texts from last night

3) Interim has to be Kenya.  He has head coaching aspirations, not sure about Ya, maybe he does too.  Regardless, I can see the possibility that none of the coaches want the interim job while Woody is still around.  But if you make it clear Woody is gone no matter what, I think that lessens the friction of one of them taking over.  Just my thoughts.  

I will just say that emotions were high in the locker room after the game from players and coaches. 

I will Jerry share what he knows.

3. I was told that is who it would be a couple of weeks ago. @ap2345 was the first to have this info. Most thought it would be Ya

[Eagle’s Rug]

11 minutes ago, KYHoosier said:

The entire basketball program needs to be overhauled. I like Hulls, Walsh, and Cliff, but everyone outside of Garl needs to be let go. We have to get rid of the losing culture and mediocrity that has been established by the last two head coaches.
 

They will not fire Woody before the season is over, but I what they should do is announce soon that he will retire at the end of the season. That helps protect his image, ease the frustration of the fan base, and allow these players to go out and play loose. It seems obvious and I’m sure it is to Dolson, but Woody seems arrogant enough to fight against a plan like this. I truly believe he thinks he is doing a fine job. I’m glad his time as our coach is nearing an end.

Garl should be gone now if he knew of Bomba’s digital rape fetish and did nothing

[Home Jersey]

I soooo look forward to closing the book on this chapter and starting a new one asap. 

[Chris007]

9 minutes ago, KYHoosier said:

The entire basketball program needs to be overhauled. I like Hulls, Walsh, and Cliff, but everyone outside of Garl needs to be let go. We have to get rid of the losing culture and mediocrity that has been established by the last two head coaches.
 

They will not fire Woody before the season is over, but I what they should do is announce soon that he will retire at the end of the season. That helps protect his image, ease the frustration of the fan base, and allow these players to go out and play loose. It seems obvious and I’m sure it is to Dolson, but Woody seems arrogant enough to fight against a plan like this. I truly believe he thinks he is doing a fine job. I’m glad his time as our coach is nearing an end.

I agree with the first sentence. I think people like Hulls and Cheaney will always have a job if they want one on the staff or in the athletic department. I feel Hulls is ready to move up to be an assistant. I think Garl is about ready to retire, he's been here forever and now his name is named in the lawsuits.

ON the second part I don't necessarily agree he makes it through the season. 

[ap2345]

6 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

They were arguing over whether to foul or not. Ya knew we had a foul to give and wanted to use it. Woodson was saying there was too much time left to foul. We didn't use it and they made the 3. Rosemond was not happy about it. 

I've done that one time on a bench. I didn't argue with the HC during the game but definitely yelled some nonsense in frustration lol 

[ap2345]

3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I soooo look forward to closing the book on this chapter and starting a new one asap. 

Soon

[ap2345]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I will just say that emotions were high in the locker room after the game from players and coaches. 

I will Jerry share what he knows.

3. I was told that is who it would be a couple of weeks ago. @ap2345 was the first to have this info. Most thought it would be Ya

I even thought it was going to be Ya initially 

[str8baller]

1 minute ago, ap2345 said:

I've done that one time on a bench. I didn't argue with the HC during the game but definitely yelled some nonsense in frustration lol 

That’s actually a bad look on Ya’s part imo. That’s the HC’s call. Woodys reasoning is defensible, even though it didn’t work out. 
 

In my experience, you can bring it up again over drinks later that night if you have that kind of relationship. But showing the boss/HC up in public like that is not kosher and shouldn’t be tolerated. 

[Home Jersey]

3 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Soon

Like 5pm soon? Please God? Lol