They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Chris007]

10 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Here is how Kathy's process works. On one side of the table you have dolson. On the other side you have

 

Quinn

Ferguson

May

Wittman

The cook's

Simon's

 

Yeah guess who wins the 5th year argument. This is why the king is recruiting. I will stick with my prediction that he gets that 5th year. I don't think dolson has near the power some of you think he has.

 

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Don't forget Isiah, he's on the local Indy radio show today describing why IU needs to keep Woodson. 

[Hornsby]

Don't forget Isiah, he's on the local Indy radio show today describing why IU needs to keep Woodson. 

That's true they need another god awful coach in woodsons corner. This is how Kathy's process works and money bags ferguson controlling all the nil 

 

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[JSHoosier]

13 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Here is how Kathy's process works. On one side of the table you have dolson. On the other side you have

 

Quinn

Ferguson

May

Wittman

The cook's

Simon's

 

Yeah guess who wins the 5th year argument. This is why the king is recruiting. I will stick with my prediction that he gets that 5th year. I don't think dolson has near the power some of you think he has.

 

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If he misses the tournament, maybe he'll go away. If he makes the tournament? I'd expect year 5 of this crap.

[lillurk]

I see folks bemoaning the “optics” explanation. Let me simplify: IU is 14-6 (5-4). Illinois is 13-6 (5-4).

We all know Illinois is better right now, better coached, and so on. But be honest with yourself that the situation currently doesn’t look the same to a national writer/outsider/casual fan. And those things matter.

[reconmkd]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Don't forget Isiah, he's on the local Indy radio show today describing why IU needs to keep Woodson. 

So full PR mode now?

[RaceToTheTop]

50 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Does anyone honestly think any coach on a hot seat isn’t fighting to coach the next year? Any sitting coach would do the same.   

Yes, and regardless of their own reality of whether or not they were on the hot seat they would be.  There isn't a downside as I mentioned before -- if Woodson is gone, you just have a decommit from a player who you wouldn't have had if IU not recruited him.  And quite simply if the NIL is good, a player might stay anyway.  I really can't think of any player that transferred AWAY from Indiana because of NIL....only ones that transferred away because of playing time.

[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, lillurk said:

I see folks bemoaning the “optics” explanation. Let me simplify: IU is 14-6 (5-4). Illinois is 13-6 (5-4).

We all know Illinois is better right now, better coached, and so on. But be honest with yourself that the situation currently doesn’t look the same to a national writer/outsider/casual fan. And those things matter.

Did you honestly expect common sense to prevail here? On this thread no less?

(you're exactly right by the way)

[Hornsby]

So full PR mode now?

Quinn and ferguson should be banned from iu campus for life given how they have destroyed this program. Those two are cancers

 

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[IUFAN1976]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Don't forget Isiah, he's on the local Indy radio show today describing why IU needs to keep Woodson. 

These people are delusional!

[Chris007]

Just now, reconmkd said:

So full PR mode now?

Yep he said IU has the right coach, just not the right players

With NIL it's very hard to win right away.

And he said at a job like IU you have to have someone who knows what it means to play at IU. Woody knows. Maybe he was pitching for May

[Hornsby]

Yes, and regardless of their own reality of whether or not they were on the hot seat they would be.  There isn't a downside as I mentioned before -- if Woodson is gone, you just have a decommit from a player who you wouldn't have had if IU not recruited him.  And quite simply if the NIL is good, a player might stay anyway.  I really can't think of any player that transferred AWAY from Indiana because of NIL....only ones that transferred away because of playing time.

The nil is good because ferguson is using the cooks money to finance his buddy. Ferguson will be a bitter dude if we can his boy

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[Mopladysman]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yep he said IU has the right coach, just not the right players

With NIL it's very hard to win right away.

And he said at a job like IU you have to have someone who knows what it means to play at IU. Woody knows. Maybe he was pitching for May

Who picked the players?

[jumpshot53]

The national outsiders are the most vocal critics of Woodson.  At least from what I've seen on podcasts and articles.

[Hoosierfan2017]

13 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Don't forget Isiah, he's on the local Indy radio show today describing why IU needs to keep Woodson. 

We need all these old timers to go away. Thank you for the contributions in the past, but you’re not helping the program in the present. 

[Hornsby]

We need all these old timers to go away. Thank you for the contributions in the past, but you’re not helping the program in the present. 

This is why I'm convinced they will do all they can to bring him back. It's personal to them and their egos. They need to prove their boy is the guy no matter how many years it takes. They will never admit he stinks. They are probably trying to get the cooks to give him 8 million.

 

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[IUFAN1976]

1 hour ago, go iu bb said:

I have no emotional connection to Woodson the player since I was way too young to remember him. I don't like Woodson the coach even a little bit so I'm perfectly fine with him getting booed and having to hear chants for him to be fired for the rest of the season. I'm also okay with the blowout losses piling up on his record. If these things don't get someone who "loves" IU to resign/retire in the best interest of the program, he's totally earned them and can reap his rewards for all I care.

We’ll take it from some who has watched him play almost every game, it doesn’t bother me a bit that he’s getting booed.  All the stuff he has done or no done, he deserves everything he gets and much much more.  He’s ruined his own legacy, with a little help from his friends.

[jumpshot53]

Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

We need all these old timers to go away. Thank you for the contributions in the past, but you’re not helping the program in the present. 

I understand loyalty but, Isaiah is probably butt hurt  from his coaching failures, so he's  relating his embarrassment to what he thinks Woodson is feeling.

[Hoosierfan2017]

12 minutes ago, lillurk said:

I see folks bemoaning the “optics” explanation. Let me simplify: IU is 14-6 (5-4). Illinois is 13-6 (5-4).

We all know Illinois is better right now, better coached, and so on. But be honest with yourself that the situation currently doesn’t look the same to a national writer/outsider/casual fan. And those things matter.

Exactly why the King cooked up such a weak non conference schedule. The single digit wins against crappy low level programs don’t show up in the win/loss column as anything other than wins. But the trickier can only go so far. Anyone who knows this team knows the record is a sham. 

[IUFAN1976]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Exactly why the King cooked up such a weak non conference schedule. The single digit wins against crappy low level programs don’t show up in the win/loss column as anything other than wins. But the trickier can only go so far. Anyone who knows this team knows the record is a sham. 

It’s all smoke and mirrors!!!

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, jumpshot53 said:

I understand loyalty but, Isaiah is probably butt hurt  from his coaching failures, so he's  relating his embarrassment to what he thinks Woodson is feeling.

He also is one of the people who helped hand-pick Woodson so he's going to defend it