They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Chris007]

12 hours ago, Motley's said:

If Woodson is fired, I wouldn't be shocked if half of the NIL funds dried up. 

I think it's already been said behind the scenes that they will keep donating plus your going to gain others who stopped giving because they didn't want Woodson any longer. 

[Chris007]

12 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

I was under the belief that Cig had very little NIL this past year. What was the increase he got vs Allen?

Football had a little over 13 million in NIL this season is what I was told. And more for next season

[Chris007]

11 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

IMO Dolson has been back channeling since the end of last season with the level of back channeling only increasing as the months have gone by.  He'll have everything in place by the time the season ends.  Woody will announce his retirement - he's not going to get fired - saying he's done his job and shortly thereafter Dolson will announce our new coach.  New coach will be able to hit the ground running for the portal and the '25 AAU season.

What if that is the start of the playoffs for the Celtics? :-) 

[68Hoosier]

A part of me really wanted Fife to be in waiting once the Woodson project was done.  I know he said all the right things in front of the camera and had the background of being coached by Knight and years under Izzo.  I was really bummed out when he was let go.

[IUFAN1976]

1 hour ago, coonhounds said:

Probably won't be till after the illinois game tomorrow. If he wins that the fans will start to get excited until the next time woodson shows up so unprepared we lose by 35

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That is exactly why we lose games by such a large margin, we are unprepared.  He thinks he can win games by shear talent alone.  You might be able to get by with that in the NBA but not in college.  I can’t believe he played for one of the best coaches in college basketball to prepare you to pls and this is the crap we get!  It’s just pure laziness 

[Pagoda]

12 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

I was under the belief that Cig had very little NIL this past year. What was the increase he got vs Allen?

 

31 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Football had a little over 13 million in NIL this season is what I was told. And more for next season

I think that $13M is an estimated number for our total collectives -- so that's going to BB, FB, etc.  Big FB programs are paying $10-20M NIL for their rosters, and we aren't near that yet.

My understanding is Allen was around $2M/yr NIL for his rosters -- bleak.  Cig was promised $3M NIL for his first year and he ended up getting $4M or a little more for last year's roster.  I don't know where we are now, maybe $5-6M+ NIL for next year, plus of course whatever we allocate to FB of the $21M rev share, probably $15M or so, but I am not sure if that's decided. 

[IUFAN1976]

13 minutes ago, 68Hoosier said:

A part of me really wanted Fife to be in waiting once the Woodson project was done.  I know he said all the right things in front of the camera and had the background of being coached by Knight and years under Izzo.  I was really bummed out when he was let go.

I think many of us was!  He would have helped Woodson do a better job of scouting and preparation 

[IUFAN1976]

36 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think it's already been said behind the scenes that they will keep donating plus your going to gain others who stopped giving because they didn't want Woodson any longer. 

This!   I don’t have proof, but I bet many have stopped donating because of Woodson.  He only got the Cooks and the Simons to donate because of of QB

[Chris007]

3 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

 

I think that $13M is an estimated number for our total collectives -- so that's going to BB, FB, etc.  Big FB programs are paying $10-20M NIL for their rosters, and we aren't near that yet.

My understanding is Allen was around $2M/yr NIL for his rosters -- bleak.  Cig was promised $3M NIL for his first year and he ended up getting $4M or a little more for last year's roster.  I don't know where we are now, maybe $5-6M+ NIL for next year, plus of course whatever we allocate to FB of the $21M rev share, probably $15M or so, but I am not sure if that's decided. 

You might be right but I was told our total NIL this season for all sports was about 20 million. Now almost all of that was taken by FB and BB  with a little bit spread around to some other sports. 

I did hear from one woman's coach who asked for more NIL and was told no. Was told they could give her more scholarship money but no more NIL. Moving forward that NIL money would be going for BB,FB, WBB, VB and soccer. With a sprinkling for Baseball and soccer

[Stuhoo]

20 minutes ago, 68Hoosier said:

A part of me really wanted Fife to be in waiting once the Woodson project was done.  I know he said all the right things in front of the camera and had the background of being coached by Knight and years under Izzo.  I was really bummed out when he was let go.

It is extremely telling that three years after Woody let Fife go, no college team has picked him up. 

[68Hoosier]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

It is extremely telling that three years after Woody let Fife go, no college team has picked him up. 

Yeah, but who knows if he was perusing coaching anymore.  If there was a major issue, how did he last so long under Izzo? 

Who knows, I just had my hopes up that he was the guy back then.  

[MikeRoberts]

41 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Football had a little over 13 million in NIL this season is what I was told. And more for next season

That was an all-in Indiana number for NIL, not just football. Basketball alone took almost half of that.

as you and Stu noted, football NIL is climbing for next year. Cig will be able to offer a lot of money moving forward

[68Hoosier]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

You might be right but I was told our total NIL this season for all sports was about 20 million. Now almost all of that was taken by FB and BB  with a little bit spread around to some other sports. 

I did hear from one woman's coach who asked for more NIL and was told no. Was told they could give her more scholarship money but no more NIL. Moving forward that NIL money would be going for BB,FB, WBB, VB and soccer. With a sprinkling for Baseball and soccer

VB??  That one shocks me.  

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Angela ganote was just trying her best to be cordial with her weekend sports update and she couldn’t bare it and said she turned the game off early hahahaha

[Chris007]

2 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

That was an all-in Indiana number for NIL, not just football. Basketball alone took almost half of that.

as you and Stu noted, football NIL is climbing for next year. Cig will be able to offer a lot of money moving forward

Yeah, I was mistaken I see that now.

[CSP]

5 minutes ago, 68Hoosier said:

Yeah, but who knows if he was perusing coaching anymore.  If there was a major issue, how did he last so long under Izzo? 

Who knows, I just had my hopes up that he was the guy back then.  

Fife couldn't win at IPFW? 

[Pagoda]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

You might be right but I was told our total NIL this season for all sports was about 20 million. Now almost all of that was taken by FB and BB  with a little bit spread around to some other sports. 

I did hear from one woman's coach who asked for more NIL and was told no. Was told they could give her more scholarship money but no more NIL. Moving forward that NIL money would be going for BB,FB, WBB, VB and soccer. With a sprinkling for Baseball and soccer

Hmm.  Interesting.  I just don't see it.  We're around $6M for BB and that would mean $12M+ for FB.  Big FB programs spend $12M on their rosters, I can't think of enough players on our team that could add up to $12M.  I heard a little over $4M for FB this past year.

Anyways, I could be wrong.  Thanks for the info, this is what message boards are for.

I'd love to know our NIL level for FB next year.  

[HoosierHoopster]

8 minutes ago, 68Hoosier said:

Yeah, but who knows if he was perusing coaching anymore.  If there was a major issue, how did he last so long under Izzo? 

Who knows, I just had my hopes up that he was the guy back then.  

I agree, think the reality is more nuanced. I remember the stories surrounding his termination, but i also remember the rumors of Fife butting heads with Woodson over game planning and recruiting, and look at where we are now. Fife was a long- time asst under Izzo, and a successful one.

That said, the U needs to move on from legacy players as coaches. We badly need a successful winning, up and coming coach with a demonstrated history including recruiting, tournaments, and a modern system/offense.

 

[Hornsby]

Probably won't be till after the illinois game tomorrow. If he wins that the fans will start to get excited until the next time woodson shows up so unprepared we lose by 35

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If Woodson wins tomorrow it will be back to he figured it out and this team has turned a corner. His fan club is very predictable
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[Hornsby]

I think he's just tired of IU messing around. He's been talked to about the IU job twice, even discussed numbers last year. I think he is happy at Auburn and they are promising his son the job in the future

It bows my mind we actually probably could of had him but instead we decided Woodson needed more nil. The level of incompetency is mind bloeing.

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