They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Hoosierfanyuh]

2 hours ago, Tasmanian Devil said:

Same crap as Providence - Minnesota is getting wide-open 3s, but they can't shoot (20%). Not sure they could hit the Atlantic Ocean if they were on Daytona Beach.

We should be winning this game by 30. But our defense is terrible. Good teams in the league are gonna kill us.

Kinda, we mostly took the 3 point shots away from them. They only shot 11. I don’t like Woodson either but you gotta tell the whole story lol

[Solsberryberries]

11 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Yeah, Idk but I've heard some things that make me think he would from people that would likely know. 

Direct quote from his immediate family:

”There’s no chance he leaves Michigan.  He loves it there.”

I would love to eat crow on this, but that was two weeks ago.  5 years down the road… maybe another story?

[KathywithaC]

49 minutes ago, Redleader said:

Where and when has Buckner’s influence been good for hoops?

He made sure a coach went when the AD wanted him to remain.

[LamarCheeks]

9 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

He made sure a coach went when the AD wanted him to remain.

He probably only did that because he figured he could then force the hiring of his BFF. 

[KathywithaC]

5 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

He probably only did that because he figured he could then force the hiring of his BFF. 

No, the victory came at a cost for both QB and his BFF.

[TheWatShot]

57 minutes ago, Solsberryberries said:

Direct quote from his immediate family:

”There’s no chance he leaves Michigan.  He loves it there.”

I would love to eat crow on this, but that was two weeks ago.  5 years down the road… maybe another story?

Wouldn't expect them to say anything else right now. You don't talk about leaving any place until you actually do it. 

[ziggyiu]

23 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

No, the victory came at a cost for both QB and his BFF.

I wonder what the cost was for each of them. 

[Brass Cannon]

This is literally the first time I have even heard it hinted that SD wanted to keep Archie. I call utter BS

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, KathywithaC said:

No, the victory came at a cost for both QB and his BFF.

Yeah.  The SOB meddled thinking he could get his buddy the job.  So the AD gave him the middle finger and hired someone else.  He and his buddy got butt hurt and here we are.  QB is a cancer on IU basketball.  

[Golfman25]

30 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

This is literally the first time I have even heard it hinted that SD wanted to keep Archie. I call utter BS

Think she is talking about Crean.  

[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Think she is talking about Crean.  

Well as somebody else said that was only because he tried hard as hell to get Woodson the job. Just cause he failed doesn’t change the motives. But I also call BS Crean was a complete lame duck 

[Eagle’s Rug]

4 hours ago, KathywithaC said:

He made sure a coach went when the AD wanted him to remain.

He made sure Crean was fired.  Is there anything else he did to benefit hoops?

[Pagoda]

8 hours ago, KathywithaC said:

You’re telling me how it ought to be in your world, but the fact of the matter is the IU world has historically been much different. Buckner isn’t the first non-AD to assert considerable influence on the.process. By the way, not all of QBs influence related to hoops has been bad. 

It's not my world, it's the world of successful organizations.

Here is another issue: how do you quantify whatever it is Quinn did that is supposedly good?  Point us to the increased number of wins, conference titles, or tournament runs.

I don't get why you feel compelled to defend Quinn.  So many people put Quinn, Woody, and others ahead of the program and I don't understand why.  It's a shame.

[JSHoosier]

28 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

It's not my world, it's the world of successful organizations.

Here is another issue: how do you quantify whatever it is Quinn did that is supposedly good?  Point us to the increased number of wins, conference titles, or tournament runs.

I don't get why you feel compelled to defend Quinn.  So many people put Quinn, Woody, and others ahead of the program and I don't understand why.  It's a shame.

I think it's less trying to defend Buckner and Woodson and more trying to explain how things worn at IU. Which when you consider the last 25 years then the way IU does things needs to be examined, it's not been good.

[Pagoda]

4 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

I think it's less trying to defend Buckner and Woodson and more trying to explain how things worn at IU. Which when you consider the last 25 years then the way IU does things needs to be examined, it's not been good.

Agree on this point.  We have always had basic issues managing the bball program, from the search committee that interviewed no one and hired MD, to Herbert/trustees pushing Kelvin, and of course Quinn.  Will we ever learn?

[OKHOOSIER]

8 hours ago, Hornsby said:

The king beat the worst team in the league at home by 15. Michigan state won by 18 at minnesota. Neededless to say lots of we're back on twitter. The indiana bbal twitter responses are pure comedy. You'd think we had just beaten kansas

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I do not even bother with that noise. Woody does not get extra credit for doing what he and this team are paid 10 Million to do. Minnesota is a mid major roster if not worse. Even when they aren't, IU basketball should expect double digit wins at home against Minnesota. That team may struggle to win 3 games (if that) in the B1G. This win does not move the needle at all, it is a 15 point Q4 win at home, it was a must have not an accomplishment. Anyone arguing otherwise is a clown, and when the two big lineup is not working against a team with a pulse we will not have the luxury of waiting 8 minutes to make a change. The smaller lineup went on a 12-1 run and we never really looked back. Maybe Woody will adjust quicker versus better competition, but history says he is pretty stubborn about his lineups. Sorry for the rant, the shills shilling for stuff IU basketball should be expected to do is so annoying to me lol

[KathywithaC]

7 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

Yeah.  The SOB meddled thinking he could get his buddy the job.  So the AD gave him the middle finger and hired someone else.  He and his buddy got butt hurt and here we are.  QB is a cancer on IU basketball.  

It cost the AD, too. There weren’t any winners in that deal.

[KathywithaC]

2 hours ago, Pagoda said:

It's not my world, it's the world of successful organizations.

Here is another issue: how do you quantify whatever it is Quinn did that is supposedly good?  Point us to the increased number of wins, conference titles, or tournament runs.

I don't get why you feel compelled to defend Quinn.  So many people put Quinn, Woody, and others ahead of the program and I don't understand why.  It's a shame.

I’m not defending Quinn, I’m telling you how and why something happened. I understand you don’t like the process, but that doesn’t change a thing.

[KathywithaC]

2 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

I think it's less trying to defend Buckner and Woodson and more trying to explain how things worn at IU. Which when you consider the last 25 years then the way IU does things needs to be examined, it's not been good.

Correct.

[Pagoda]

1 minute ago, KathywithaC said:

I’m not defending Quinn, I’m telling you how and why something happened. I understand you don’t like the process, but that doesn’t change a thing.

No, you do defend him.

We know why things happened and of course no one here can change it.

I’m just pointing out why our “process” doesn’t work.  IU should know better.