They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[iu eyedoc 3,836]

12 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

My selfish satisfaction and more time to find the right guy. Maybe calm the fanbase down some

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Do you think they aren't seeking that guy as we speak? Whatever can be done prior to seasons end is being done.

[Ryno6284 3,833]

Rice and Reneau can sit the rest of the year! I would rather have Hatton playing.  I can almost guarantee, if MR gets that offensive rebound in the first half instead of LH,  it doesn’t get kicked to Goode for a 3!  MR is a negative too many times when he is on the floor, which is another problem, he can’t stay out of foul trouble!

 

FIRE WOOSON!

[HoosierInParadise 1,159]

IU's brand is Great Value to  anyone without gray hair, so not sure Woodson is really doing any damage to it for those that it will matter for that the next staff will be looking for.
Look, IU football would have embraced mediocrity with open arms up until as recently as 6 months ago, so hire the right guy and that is all that will rally matter.
Answer yourself this question:
What of these choices does firing CMW with 9 games left in the season accomplish?
1) Allows for better coaching by his inexperienced assistants
2) Make a tournament bid more likely
3) Enhance IU's future coaching pool
4) ENhance IU's reputation
5) Satisfy fans blood lust.
Other than #5. It  pretty much is pointless.
If it happens tomorrow, I would rejoice, but in the grand scheme it doesn't really matter.
 

Good points....just annoyed and frustrated that I have gray hair.

[Kentuckysucks 3,877]

This guy seems to have a lot of passion and energy.  Should Dolson give him a look?

https://x.com/thehoopherald/status/1885449695251620192?s=46

 

[iu eyedoc 3,836]

Just now, mbredenk101 said:

6 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

IU's brand is Great Value to  anyone without gray hair, so not sure Woodson is really doing any damage to it for those that it will matter for that the next staff will be looking for.
Look, IU football would have embraced mediocrity with open arms up until as recently as 6 months ago, so hire the right guy and that is all that will rally matter.
Answer yourself this question:
What of these choices does firing CMW with 9 games left in the season accomplish?
1) Allows for better coaching by his inexperienced assistants
2) Make a tournament bid more likely
3) Enhance IU's future coaching pool
4) ENhance IU's reputation
5) Satisfy fans blood lust.
Other than #5. It  pretty much is pointless.
If it happens tomorrow, I would rejoice, but in the grand scheme it doesn't really matter.
 

Good points....just annoyed and frustrated that I have gray hair.

It's happening younger and younger for IU basketball fans. There is a new product that helps, it's called Just For IU Fans, it only comes in one color though, Mike Woodson Jet Black

[HoosierInParadise 1,159]

It's happening younger and younger for IU basketball fans. There is a new product that helps, it's called Just For IU Fans, it only comes in one color though, Mike Woodson Jet Black

Yeah..in my early 40s...not ok...

[monskisprodigy 2,242]

Whoever we hire, has to have a clear vision for the program, and have the stones to drive the message into everyone’s head every single day until everyone buys in…

People were sick of cig, every press conference he gave the same answers “one day at a time, no self imposed limitations, fast physical relentless, production over potential”….he didn’t waver, and that’s how you set culture as a leader. 

Now who can do that…really not sure. 

[AZ Hoosier 9,851]

57 minutes ago, mbredenk101 said:

I still don't understand how an organization can have so many data points to make a decision to move on from someone but just doesn't do it. I don't think it would be too far-fetched for a large company to move on from a top executive or administrator on a project if they were showing signs of not producing or damaging the brand. I can't imagine that company waiting until the end of the project to let the person go. If it's moving in the wrong direction, why let it go downstream even more?

In a single word:

NEPOTISM.

Woodson is protected by Buckner, the BoT and the big money donors. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[AZ Hoosier 9,851]

1 hour ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I agree!  Ballo showed some fire and it was directed at the correct guy.  Rice is a selfish player and took and ill-advised shot with the game on the line.  He had a hot Mgbako open in the corner, or at least drive it all the way to basket.  
 

Other than those 20 turnovers that killed us, this was the best and hardest played game they have played all year.  I honestly that tonight we were the better team, personnel wise, but we weren’t better coached.  Too many miscues, especially down the stretch cost us this game and that comes down to coaching.

Admittedly, I did not watch the game... but I have to ask...

If  Rice, Carlyle, Reneau and Tucker are such liabilities (and from what I've seen, they are)... why are they in the game at critical junctures? Seems to me to be a coaching/leadership issue. Of course, we all know and agree that there is... but inquiring minds just want to know why.

[Mopladysman 1,044]

10 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

This guy seems to have a lot of passion and energy.  Should Dolson give him a look?

https://x.com/thehoopherald/status/1885449695251620192?s=46

 

Hell yeah

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Admittedly, I did not watch the game... but I have to ask...

If Rice and Reneau are such liabilities (and from what I've seen, they are)... why are they in the game at critical junctures? Seems to me to be a coaching/leadership issue. Of course, we all know and agree that there is... but inquiring minds just want to know why.

I think that is a question we all or someone needs to ask MW.  It could be a money issue.  Last night Rice was in the game at the end because Leal fouled out.

[JF87 2,040]

25 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

IU's brand is Great Value to  anyone without gray hair, so not sure Woodson is really doing any damage to it for those that it will matter for that the next staff will be looking for.

Look, IU football would have embraced mediocrity with open arms up until as recently as 6 months ago, so hire the right guy and that is all that will really matter.

Answer yourself this question:

What of these choices does firing CMW with 9 games left in the season accomplish?

1) Allows for better coaching by his inexperienced assistants

2) Make a tournament bid more likely

3) Enhance IU's future coaching pool

4) ENhance IU's reputation

5) Satisfy fans blood lust.

Other than #5. It  pretty much is pointless.

If it happens tomorrow, I would rejoice, but in the grand scheme it doesn't really matter.

 

I choose blood.

[Hoosier DaDa 3,579]

18 hours ago, Scotty R said:

No matter who the next coach is that there will be another fire coach thread after their first loss

No

[RaceToTheTop 29,291]

2 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Admittedly, I did not watch the game... but I have to ask...

If Rice and Reneau are such liabilities (and from what I've seen, they are)... why are they in the game at critical junctures? Seems to me to be a coaching/leadership issue. Of course, we all know and agree that there is... but inquiring minds just want to know why.

I think part of it is Woody makes promises about PT and role to get players in and for good and bad, he tries to stick with it.  The only guy who has really seen a big drop in minutes is Carlyle and in his case I don't think even if he justify sticking to what he said.  So he tries to keep a promise to the detriment of the team.  

I think right now the best five we have -- the ones that should start --   are Galloway, Leal, Goode, Mgbako, and Ballo.  But we know he promised MM he'd be playing the 3, it could be assumed he promised Rice the starting point guard spot, and you would think that MR would have received some assurances as well.

Now, it's not like Galloway has been lights out every game....he's laid as many eggs as Rice.  But the ball movement is better with Galloway.

 

 

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

24 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

Rice and Reneau can sit the rest of the year! I would rather have Hatton playing.  I can almost guarantee, if MR gets that offensive rebound in the first half instead of LH,  it doesn’t get kicked to Goode for a 3!  MR is a negative too many times when he is on the floor, which is another problem, he can’t stay out of foul trouble!

 

FIRE WOOSON!

Finally someone who feels the way I do about Reneau.  He’s a blackhole and a selfish player.  I am not 100% sure but I would bet that his +/- for the year is a minus.  Rice is a bad rollercoaster ride and has tried to play hero too many times when he’s not been the guy!  

[Class of '66 Old Fart 88,262]

I just posted this in the game thread 

I didn't know what the rule was regarding timeouts and saw this on another board.  

Rule 5, Section 11, Article 3 says, "When the game clock and shot clock are running, they shall be stopped when an official: Grants a player’s visual or oral request for a timeout when the ball is live or grants a coach’s request for timeout made when the ball is live in the last two minutes of the second period or the last two minutes of any overtime period."

Didn't need anyone on the court to call for a timeout, Woody could have done it from the bench.  Did he even know that he could?

[Silat Player 1,347]

7 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I just posted this in the game thread 

I didn't know what the rule was regarding timeouts and saw this on another board.  

Rule 5, Section 11, Article 3 says, "When the game clock and shot clock are running, they shall be stopped when an official: Grants a player’s visual or oral request for a timeout when the ball is live or grants a coach’s request for timeout made when the ball is live in the last two minutes of the second period or the last two minutes of any overtime period."

Didn't need anyone on the court to call for a timeout, Woody could have done it from the bench.  Did he even know that he could?

Yeah, this is what I was thinking. I thought the coach could call a timeout. We had 2. Why didn't Woody just call a timeout? 

[Ryno6284 3,833]

7 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I just posted this in the game thread 

I didn't know what the rule was regarding timeouts and saw this on another board.  

Rule 5, Section 11, Article 3 says, "When the game clock and shot clock are running, they shall be stopped when an official: Grants a player’s visual or oral request for a timeout when the ball is live or grants a coach’s request for timeout made when the ball is live in the last two minutes of the second period or the last two minutes of any overtime period."

Didn't need anyone on the court to call for a timeout, Woody could have done it from the bench.  Did he even know that he could?

Probably not.

[jermhoosierfan 128]

A nice discussion with a lot of names mentioned here.  Goodman acts like he knows that Woody is gone at the end of the season.

[JF87 2,040]

2 hours ago, Silat Player said:

Yeah, this is what I was thinking. I thought the coach could call a timeout. We had 2. Why didn't Woody just call a timeout? 

Because he was too busy waving Rice towards the bucket.