Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[Mr. Hoosier Pride 537]

29 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

I’m not missing the point but I definitely am not convinced we have our “Diebler” at the ready. Since you seemingly are, who should we retain as the interim coach?

Kathy- you just missed the point again.  

the point is, we don't need a Diebler...we don't need another single win this season after firing Woody (heck, we might not win much more than that WITH him).  We can leave the chair empty for all we care, that's the point. Who cares if we have a Diebler as long as we don't have Woodson and are on the path to the future. 

"I'm not missing the point, but let me demonstrate how I completely missed the point."

[KathywithaC 578]

2 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

You claim to have insider info and have also said Stevens wasn’t realistic last time.  My Dad knows one of our 8 figure donors pretty well and he always has his finger on the pulse.  He told my Dad right after Archie was canned that we were getting Steven’s and it was nearly a done deal.  The only potential roadblock according to him was Tracy.  I don’t think you know anything.

You know someone who has donated at least $10M to IU? That’s a small list, but great. And yeah, Tracy was a potential roadblock, to say the least, but she was far from the only one. What reasons did your friend give you for why it wasn’t done, as well as why BS spoke about the job publicly in the manner he did? 

[KathywithaC 578]

Just now, Mr. Hoosier Pride said:

Kathy- you just missed the point again.  

the point is, we don't need a Diebler...we don't need another single win this season after firing Woody (heck, we might not win much more than that WITH him).  We can leave the chair empty for all we care, that's the point. Who cares if we have a Diebler as long as we don't have Woodson and are on the path to the future. 

"I'm not missing the point, but let me demonstrate how I completely missed the point."

I’m not missing the point at all. You’re offering a highly emotional and nonsensical “solution” because it would make you feel better. It would care in the least about the program or the University or the players, but you’d feel better. Let’s Go!

[DoctorP 1,223]

9 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

Go for it! I know some people and would be happy to put in a good word for you. I think DoctorP is chairing the search committee, so you might touch base with him / her, as well.

Ohhh Katchy. 

[Golfman25 5,706]

17 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

I wouldn’t plan a meal schedule around them. Was struck by how tired and lethargic he looked in last night’s press conference. He’s always been pretty stoic, but he needed a blood pressure check last night.

Nothing like getting your a$$ beat by 30 at home.  

[Muskie plays the four 209]

Man it's a weird vibe in here today. 

[IUCrazy2 2,510]

7 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

Dialing down the emotions is the objective? Interesting - I have been told that none of this is emotionally based, though it’s also been communicated that any emotional outbursts are the fault of the University. 

No, the decision is based off of protecting whatever goodwill is left in your product.  That isn't an emotional decision on the part of the decision maker.  I think any chance of violence is infinitesimally small and isn't more than any other large event gathering.  People booing the team every game, chanting for the coach to be fired, doing mass walkouts, etc. are things you don't want to have to try and sell as a decision maker.  That is hurting thr brand I have a fiduciary responsibility to protect as one of those decision makers.

Emotional responses aren't devoid of logic.  The two are not mutually exclusive.  

[Juwan Moye 301]

I only keep checking this thread in hopes of someone letting us know that Woodson is officially gone.

[68Hoosier 631]

1 minute ago, Muskie plays the four said:

Man it's a weird vibe in here today. 

Right, we spend more time attacking each other than talking about the current state of the program. 

[jefftheref 131]

33 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Are we still giving Woodson a party on his last game and thanking him for saving the program? He did his job.

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I would like to crap in a bag and give it to him as a reminder of what his coaching and results are! 

[IU Prof 896]

Apropos of nothing, in my experience high-level administrative players typically have better things to do than spend all day arguing with fans on a message board.

[TheWatShot 14,201]

4 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

I’m not missing the point at all. You’re offering a highly emotional and nonsensical “solution” because it would make you feel better. It would care in the least about the program or the University or the players, but you’d feel better. Let’s Go!

I googled "benefits of firing coach midseason" and the following came up. Maybe this will help you understand:

Firing a coach midseason can potentially benefit a team by injecting new energy, tactics, and a fresh perspective, which could lead to improved performance and a better chance at salvaging a struggling season, especially if the team is experiencing significant underperformance under the previous coach; however, this strategy can be risky and often comes with significant drawbacks like disruption to team chemistry and the potential for further decline if the new coach doesn't immediately click with the players. 

 

Potential benefits of firing a coach midseason:

• Spark a turnaround:

  A change in leadership can sometimes motivate players and create a sense of urgency to turn things around, especially if the team is underachieving. 

   
• New strategies and tactics:

  A new coach may bring different offensive or defensive schemes that better suit the current roster and could exploit weaknesses in opponents. 

   
• Accountability and pressure:

  Firing a coach can send a message to the players and the organization that poor performance will not be tolerated. 

   
• Addressing internal issues:

  Sometimes, a coaching change can be necessary to address internal conflicts or a lack of player buy-in with the previous coach. 

   

 

 

 

[realTomCrean 1,614]

It's better to lose by 25+ and abandon any standards for IUBB than to fire a lame duck coach. We have several arrests, several drug infractions, several physical altercations, current players dogging successful IUBB alumni online, current players deeming any fan that's not supportive of not being a true fan, Fat Ballo fighting and walking around and not getting back on D. A national laughingstock of a program (CBS, F68, Bleacher Report, ESPN, B1G, Robbie Hummel). Only a paid shill would say as much. Clown behavior. I really hope Kathy is not involved in AD - if so, it would make total sense how the program has been so lackluster for 2 decades - clowns running the show. Digressing: too much credit to the clown. 0% chance that Kathy is involved in AD and about 90% paid shill via connection to Woody or QB. Kathy, I'll believe you're connected if you admit you're terribly embarrassed about ROI on a $6M roster with a top 10 paid HC. 

[IUCrazy2 2,510]

1 minute ago, 68Hoosier said:

Right, we spend more time attacking each other than talking about the current state of the program. 

Well the University's spin doctor is out to try and manage the situation again.....

[go iu bb 6,309]

36 minutes ago, southsidehoosier said:

SIAP

https://www.wdrb.com/sports/bozich-how-long-can-indiana-basketball-avoid-its-coaching-problem/article_9185b7f2-d36a-11ef-b56c-1be3abf78565.html

 

From the article: 

In the 2008-09 season, when Tom Crean put his first IU team together with pipe cleaners, Gorilla glue and a string of guys no other Big Ten program wanted, Indiana lost 17 of 18 conference games. Precisely two of those losses were by 25 or more points — one on Jan. 10, the other on Feb. 7.

[KathywithaC 578]

4 minutes ago, DoctorP said:

Ohhh Katchy. 

Hope that doesn’t encroach on your “Doctor” duties.

[iu-dl 1,483]

2 minutes ago, jefftheref said:

I would like to crap in a bag and give it to him as a reminder of what his coaching and results are! 

That could get messy Jeff.

[Hoosier DaDa 2,662]

3 hours ago, KathywithaC said:

I agree, it would provide a visceral solution for some, but it wouldn’t impact the long term health of the program, which should be the objective.

Bold part (visceral solution)  NOT HIRE WOODY IN THE FIRST PLACE...FIRE HIM LAST YEAR.  These are the two reasons why the long term health of the program SUCKS right now.  

[Golfman25 5,706]

Did I see a plane leaving for Boston?   :)  

[realTomCrean 1,614]

20 years as a fan. This is the all-time low right?