Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[Brass Cannon 24,862]

1 hour ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Honestly, Crean would be a better coach and fit than Woodson.  With the current transfer portal and NIL, I think Crean could excel as a coach, definitely better than Woodson 

Yeah that’s actually a good point. Crean could probably do very well with defensive minded guys who had been given feedback from the combine they needed to improve their offense.  He’d have a real niche.  
 

fits his mold of the quick recruitment versus long term relationship 

[12345Brad 47]

SIAP, but like years past, woody is doing hockey subs. I think he does this just give some guys a run now, so if/when they play in conference/tourney, they have some experience.   Nobody likes it and it’s unorthodox, but it’s the only logical reason I can think of.  He doesn’t want to play 8 guys all season.  
 

He seems to shorten the bench come January, so hopefully it’ll happen again this year.  

[AZ Hoosier 7,346]

21 minutes ago, 12345Brad said:

SIAP, but like years past, woody is doing hockey subs. I think he does this just give some guys a run now, so if/when they play in conference/tourney, they have some experience.   Nobody likes it and it’s unorthodox, but it’s the only logical reason I can think of.  He doesn’t want to play 8 guys all season.  
 

He seems to shorten the bench come January, so hopefully it’ll happen again this year.  

OR... he still has no clue what he's doing... yeah, I'm going with that.

[Brass Cannon 24,862]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

OR... he still has no clue what he's doing... yeah, I'm going with that.

Seems like he’s got that smartest guy in the room mentality. 

[JSHoosier 20,301]

10 hours ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Honestly, Crean would be a better coach and fit than Woodson.  With the current transfer portal and NIL, I think Crean could excel as a coach, definitely better than Woodson 

Crean's a better coach than Woodson, period, he couldn't win consistently but could sometimes have a decent run even if the Final Four was a fluke.

I do think he'd be better in the NIL era, especially with an assistant that focuses on defense.

[go iu bb 6,197]

Man, Miller and Woodson have been so bad that people are pining for Crean to come back. Yikes.

[OKHOOSIER 2,406]

11 hours ago, 12345Brad said:

SIAP, but like years past, woody is doing hockey subs. I think he does this just give some guys a run now, so if/when they play in conference/tourney, they have some experience.   Nobody likes it and it’s unorthodox, but it’s the only logical reason I can think of.  He doesn’t want to play 8 guys all season.  
 

He seems to shorten the bench come January, so hopefully it’ll happen again this year.  

This has been discussed a lot in the IU and CBB media, as well as here. MW still somehow does not understand the NET and how short the season is. We simply cannot afford to beat teams like this well below the line. He has no comprehension of how teams on the bubble get into the tournament. Take UCONN for example. Hurley was straight up disgusted with his team post game- after a 35 point win. It’s simply another data point that MW thinks it’s the NBA and is not qualified for this job. Full stop. 

[HoosierHoopster 7,061]

2 hours ago, go iu bb said:

Man, Miller and Woodson have been so bad that people are pining for Crean to come back. Yikes.

And count me among them lol. 2 B1G championships, 3 SW16’s, the Wat shot embarrassment of Cal causing him never to return, the multiple years of guys like Vic, Cody, Yogi, Wat, Hulls and the high scoring outside shooting — and all with the constant humor provided by that spastic, diet cokeaholic ridiculous expression man parading on the sideline…

Yep, measured against CAM and Woody? I’m pining :)

[Brass Cannon 24,862]

We have had a steady decline in coaching since Sampson. Each hire has been progressively worse. 

[ziggyiu 587]

6 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

Crean's a better coach than Woodson, period, he couldn't win consistently but could sometimes have a decent run even if the Final Four was a fluke.

I do think he'd be better in the NIL era, especially with an assistant that focuses on defense.

One of the issues with Crean is that he didn't listen to his assistants. Like Woody, Crean had a massive ego. He could not let himself defer to an assistant on a different way to coach defense. 

Time often heals old wounds. I get that. But Crean would still be coaching at Georgia or at least coaching somewhere if he was half as good as our memories have distorted him. 

[ziggyiu 587]

3 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

We have had a steady decline in coaching since Sampson. Each hire has been progressively worse. 

I liked your post because IU has proven to be woefully inept at evaluating and reeling in a talented basketball coach.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like this to be Woody's last year, and this may be splitting hairs, but I'd give the edge to him over Archie. 

[JSHoosier 20,301]

7 minutes ago, ziggyiu said:

One of the issues with Crean is that he didn't listen to his assistants. Like Woody, Crean had a massive ego. He could not let himself defer to an assistant on a different way to coach defense. 

Time often heals old wounds. I get that. But Crean would still be coaching at Georgia or at least coaching somewhere if he was half as good as our memories have distorted him. 

Crean wasn't anything special as a coach, but he's better than the two since. It's more an indictment of them than a compliment of Crean.

[Brass Cannon 24,862]

3 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Crean wasn't anything special as a coach, but he's better than the two since. It's more an indictment of them than a compliment of Crean.

I’ll give you that.  Both massive failures so kinda difficult to guage. Archie might have been worse simply because there was legit hope 

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38 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

We have had a steady decline in coaching since Sampson. Each hire has been progressively worse. 

Crean was definitely worse than Sampson as well as better than both Mike and Woodson. I wouldn't say that Miller was better than Woodson, however. Woodson isn't very good but he's still an upgrade after the disaster that Miller was 

[coonhounds 9,035]

Want to get out in front of the masses. Fire this dude!

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[IUFAN1976 3,268]

5 hours ago, go iu bb said:

Man, Miller and Woodson have been so bad that people are pining for Crean to come back. Yikes.

I’m not advocating Crean to comeback but I think he’s a definite upgrade over Woodson and with the transfer portal and NIL he could possibly win more consistently!  Woodson just flat out sucks and is a legend in his own mind!  If this team plays as bad as they did in their last game, they will lose against Louisville 

[coonhounds 9,035]

This thread will be busy this week I fear

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5 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I’m not advocating Crean to comeback but I think he’s a definite upgrade over Woodson and with the transfer portal and NIL he could possibly win more consistently!  Woodson just flat out sucks and is a legend in his own mind!  If this team plays as bad as they did in their last game, they will lose against Louisville 

He had the transfer portal at his next stop and it didn't work out for him.

[steubenhoosier 883]

3 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

We have had a steady decline in coaching since Sampson. Each hire has been progressively worse. 

Too bad Sampson chose to bring in a bunch of thugs

[Hoosierfan2017 21,513]

Can we fire Mike Woodson for today’s game too?