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Fire Coach Woodson Thread

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7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

As someone else said if Quinn & the Simons really cared for Woody they would do something and not put him what he is about to go through this summer and definitely next season. His wife and family too.

This isn't a recipe to finish your career. 

...well said!

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IU has to have the top or one of the top NIL programs in the big ten yet now we don't have a single recruit. How is more money going to make much of a difference?
Between this and if we have a massive amount of our players enter the portal there has to be more internal discussions now. Keep or get rid of, I don't see how the plan stays the same.
Even the big money donors backing him have to reevaluate. This is insanity.
It won't which proves how delusional quinn and the Scott's really are.

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1 hour ago, pumpfake said:

A couple of weeks ago the Assembly Call guys were debating the "Woodson problem".  One of them cited the historical outcome for coaches who have bad records in their third season - it's not good.

In college football, there was an old saying that went something like “your record in your 3rd year will be written on your epitaph.”  
 

I ran a bunch of coaches resumes once and it actually held up really well as a rule of thumb. I never did it for basketball though. Plus times are a little different now. But your post reminded me of that. 

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26 minutes ago, Bankshot said:

I look at the "can't fire a legend or you'll look bad" very differently I guess.

If Duke hired Grant Hill, or North Carolina hired Sam Perkins, etc., then fired them later for genuinely poor performance (or like NC did with Dougherty), I wouldn't say "Oh, look how crazy and unreasonable they are, they fired one of their own". 

I would be like, "look how serious they are about being good and not tolerating mediocrity, he sucked and they moved on".

I think IU is WAY over-sensitive about this. If the coach isn't getting it done, move on!

And didn't Doherty only get 3 seasons while on an upward trend?  NC knew he wasn't the guy.

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4 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

I'm a New Yorker - we're naturals at booing.  Maybe my services are needed at IU games...... This is my moment!!!!!!!!!

Maybe we can get a GoFundMe account in your name and everyone on this board can chip in and buy you a plane ticket and game ticket for Sunday’s game.  Don’t forget your megaphone 

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Now I did read on twitter he doesn't want to come because he doesn't want to compete with mm and Trey for playing time. But I am shocked I haven't read yet the old we didn't need him anyway one. That's my favorite.

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1 hour ago, iubhounds2 said:

That happened to me last night and I made a post about it because I didn't know the rules of the likes and laughs. I wonder what the number limit is?

Now I'm worried because I  had no clue and for sure wasted some . 

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52 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

I do actually like Simon and Garfunkel ......

I like Carly Simon.  You're so Vain is an appropriate song for our Mike Woodson.

Edited by jumpshot53
can't spell

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28 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I don't blame him in the least for not wanting to discuss it:

  1. There are no good answers.
  2. Opening the door enables a ton of follow-up questions on the subject, which sends him back to "there are no good answers."

To not take questions would be ok if.... 

1) He came right out and addressed it/took responsibility for the failure

2) Hasn't had a history of acting like he is above speaking to his criticism 

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Its senior day, we have recruits in the house, what are the chances the boo birds will be out?  Or will they behave themselves?  From about everything that I have read and learned, the administration and coaching staff are all blaming us fans for all of this.

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2 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Its senior day, we have recruits in the house, what are the chances the boo birds will be out?  Or will they behave themselves?  From about everything that I have read and learned, the administration and coaching staff are all blaming us fans for all of this.

Of course the people in charge are blaming someone else... they want to call the shots and not take any responsibility for their errant ways.

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43 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

One of the guys on AC last night did a nice analytical breakdown of what it was going to take to solidly be a tournament team before the LM news. And from a numbers and production perspective, it would have taken the greatest portal haul since it became a thing. Post LM, it’s essentially impossible based one the amount of production even in a portal year to year. We already had to pull the best 2-5 players which LOL. Now we are going to fill the roster with players that are not high major contributors. Think Sparks, but different positions. We have to move on. Full stop. 

I'm in the middle of that podcast at the moment.  One could say Woodson spent the "honeymoon" locked in the toilet.

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I've been preaching for a few years now that the IU fanbase is so rabid that we need our head coach to have fireside chats like pearl did at Texas Tech and Texas. He sits down talks to Matthew McConaughey, brings on guests and gets really detailed...

Right now we have obfuscation, fans have no idea if there's a strategy in place, and simply DON'T TRUST whats happening behind the scenes.

I think a fireside chat would be impossible for Woodson because there is no strategy... But the next coach can learn from Woody's mistakes. 

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