Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[Uspshoosier 44,483]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Not sure if I should share this or not but the feedback IU is getting from the portal so far, from kids who should be a layup for IU is not going well. When a player's camp tells you that you need to change your offense and pay them a lot of money to get them it's not good. 

No reason not to share Trillys discord he says share it as long as you point people in his direction 

[HoosierMoore 296]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Heard he called it a walrus before doing so 

Yup, I believe while trying to nudge over an iceberg hump.

Edited March 26 by HoosierMoore

[go iu bb 4,889]

12 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

At some point, you have to weigh if it's worth it or not. No one gets attacked more on here than me. I will still post and not going anywhere just will try not to share as much, don't want to spread misinformation because everyone believes everything I say like it's the gospel. Just surprised at the people who come at me anymore. It's changed in the last few months but maybe their just doing what their told. 

To me it doesn't look like what Old fart said was an attack. I think where he is coming from is "3 times" is a very specific number, while "big raise" isn't. A specific number seems like a hard fact, even if it isn't. A big raise could be 50% or double which are both less than tripling the pay. Since you do hear stuff, people take stuff that seems like fact as fact. Hell, they take stuff that is obviously opinion as fact so definitely take something that seems like a fact as a fact, even if it's you being hyperbolic.

So the fact of a big raise can quickly turn to them earning 3 times what they did, even if the big raise wasn't that much.

[IUHoosierJoe 951]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Not sure if I should share this or not but the feedback IU is getting from the portal so far, from kids who should be a layup for IU is not going well. When a player's camp tells you that you need to change your offense and pay them a lot of money to get them it's not good. 

Especially when it’s a hometown kid?

[Hoosierfan2017 20,035]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Not sure if I should share this or not but the feedback IU is getting from the portal so far, from kids who should be a layup for IU is not going well. When a player's camp tells you that you need to change your offense and pay them a lot of money to get them it's not good. 

The players aren’t dumb. We’re not the only school with money. When money is all you have to offer because you play an office straight out of 2002, it’s not going to appeal to very many kids. If you’re a talented guard do you want to come play for IU? I wouldn’t. They can get paid by someone else where they’ll be coached by a better coach, play in a fun, modern offense, and win more than they would at IU. IU only becomes appealing when the pay differential becomes big enough. 

[Uspshoosier 44,483]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

No reason not to share Trillys discord he says share it as long as you point people in his direction 

Cincy is a team to watch for Hickman 

[go iu bb 4,889]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Not sure if I should share this or not but the feedback IU is getting from the portal so far, from kids who should be a layup for IU is not going well. When a player's camp tells you that you need to change your offense and pay them a lot of money to get them it's not good. 

So it's basically going how many of us thought it would.

[go iu bb 4,889]

14 minutes ago, kottke said:

Think Woody comments at all? Or does he just keep his head in the sand?

Mike Woodson is doing his job. He shouldn't have to answer questions about the women's team, and won't do it.

[Golfman25 4,831]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Not sure if I should share this or not but the feedback IU is getting from the portal so far, from kids who should be a layup for IU is not going well. When a player's camp tells you that you need to change your offense and pay them a lot of money to get them it's not good. 

Think I posted in the other thread -- so far performance is underwhelming.  

[JF87 1,413]

19 minutes ago, kottke said:

Think Woody comments at all? Or does he just keep his head in the sand?

I love Cignetti.  It seems like he's all in for IU.   (fixed it)

[cleeter 2,049]

Yeah, I get it. I can stop posting what I hear. I don't want to spread misinformation. I understand what you guys are saying.

I prefer you keep posting what you hear. In this ever evolving world, things can change at the blink of an eye, drop of a hat, etc. You post what you hear. Whether people take as gospel on them. It’s called rumors or “what I’ve heard” Everyone thinks Trilly is gospel. He got Dusty May wrong (as did everyone) but that happens. Rabby is very careful and still gets things wrong too. It is what it is. Unless you hear it directly from the decision makers mouth, it could he wrong. Either way, I love when anyone posts what they hear. Do I put more weight into something specific posters say, yes. But will I ever hold any one accountable for saying what they are currently hearing. No. So thank you Chris and thank you to everyone who posts what they hear and everyone that keeps this board going and severely depletes my ability to ever stay on task at work. Now…back to the game.

 

 

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[Hoosierfan2017 20,035]

1 minute ago, JF87 said:

I love Gignetti.  It seems like he's all in for IU.  

This was probably just a typo, but I’m pretending ‘Gignetti’ is what Woodson calls him. 

[JF87 1,413]

11 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Not sure if I should share this or not but the feedback IU is getting from the portal so far, from kids who should be a layup for IU is not going well. When a player's camp tells you that you need to change your offense and pay them a lot of money to get them it's not good. 

These players wouldn't know that we have a $hitty offense if the toxic IU fans would quit complaining about it!  DWS

[bigrod 2,818]

10 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Heard he called it a walrus before doing so 

Coo coo ca choo

[Golfman25 4,831]

6 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

The players aren’t dumb. We’re not the only school with money. When money is all you have to offer because you play an office straight out of 2002, it’s not going to appeal to very many kids. If you’re a talented guard do you want to come play for IU? I wouldn’t. They can get paid by someone else where they’ll be coached by a better coach, play in a fun, modern offense, and win more than they would at IU. IU only becomes appealing when the pay differential becomes big enough. 

Even with the pay differential, do kids really care these days?  It's all about work-life balance these days.  We have all had crappy jobs that overpaid us -- and we where still miserable.  Basketball is supposed to be fun.  I'd go where the fun is, even though it may mean a "pay cut."

[ronzo4IU 103]

I do find it hard to believe Chill could get that big of a raise..

[cleeter 2,049]

I'm gonna throw 4 darts here and see how many times I can hit a bullseye.... All are JMHO.
#1.... he's tired of getting booed at Assembly Hall.
#2.... possibly jealous of their success.
#3.... (stretch), she's a Purdue grad.
#4.... he doesn't like to share facilities.
Did I hit any bullseyes? If so, how many? lol

I think 1, 2 and 4 are direct hits. No question.


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[IUFAN1976 2,391]

27 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

At some point, you have to weigh if it's worth it or not. No one gets attacked more on here than me. I will still post and not going anywhere just will try not to share as much, don't want to spread misinformation because everyone believes everything I say like it's the gospel. Just surprised at the people who come at me anymore. It's changed in the last few months but maybe their just doing what their told. 

It’s changed because MW pit fans against fans.  The fans aren’t the problem, it’s MW and the Administration.  I would continue to post and if you have information or opinions you want to share, the heck with those people who don’t like it.  I guarantee you that many of us on here enjoy reading your post.  Some people will disagree, who cares they can have their opinion too!  Like it’s been mentioned, everyone’s different opinions and open conversations is what makes this message board what it is.  We are all entitled to our opinions, right or wrong!  

[ronzo4IU 103]

Are we sure he wasn’t at the game incognito?

[JF87 1,413]

11 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

To me it doesn't look like what Old fart said was an attack. I think where he is coming from is "3 times" is a very specific number, while "big raise" isn't. A specific number seems like a hard fact, even if it isn't. A big raise could be 50% or double which are both less than tripling the pay. Since you do hear stuff, people take stuff that seems like fact as fact. Hell, they take stuff that is obviously opinion as fact so definitely take something that seems like a fact as a fact, even if it's you being hyperbolic.

So the fact of a big raise can quickly turn to them earning 3 times what they did, even if the big raise wasn't that much.

So, I can't say that Kelvin Sampson is three times the coach that Mike Woodson is without showing my math?