What constitutes “BACK”?

[OliviaPope40]

The game that almost didn't happen.

Edited January 28, 2024 by OliviaPope40

[Hoosier DaDa]

Not on subject but why do I enjoy seeing Sean Miller getting beat by 40 points so much?

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Not on subject but why do I enjoy seeing Sean Miller getting beat by 40 points so much?

And Archie asking Rhode Island fans for patience on Twitter.

But I don’t get much satisfaction seeing these guy struggle when our team is so awful.

To me…..Its going on a run long enough to garner national respect again. Probably need to get to an Elite 8 or a couple sweet sixteen runs to get there. I don’t anticipate any of this happening with Woody. He had a minimally decent start and gave all the detractors all the ammo they need with this season.


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[Hoosier DaDa]

11 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

And Archie asking Rhode Island fans for patience on Twitter.

But I don’t get much satisfaction seeing these guy struggle when our team is so awful.

To me…..Its going on a run long enough to garner national respect again. Probably need to get to an Elite 8 or a couple sweet sixteen runs to get there. I don’t anticipate any of this happening with Woody. He had a minimally decent start and gave all the detractors all the ammo they need with this season.


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My ill will towards Sean has nothing to do with Archie.  I really hope Archie does well going forward in his career.  I just can't stand how big a cheater Sean was and is.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

My ill will towards Sean has nothing to do with Archie.  I really hope Archie does well going forward in his career.  I just can't stand how big a cheater Sean was and is.

Fair. For about 75 years of basketball “cheating” has separated the winners and the losers. I can almost guarantee that whatever the new competitive advantage is, Indiana will be last to implement it.


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[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

My ill will towards Sean has nothing to do with Archie.  I really hope Archie does well going forward in his career.  I just can't stand how big a cheater Sean was and is.

Yeah, we got a pretty "up close and personal" view here in the Grand Canyon State.

[AKHoosier]

I don't know what it means to be "back", I just know this isn't it.

[8bucks]

We are kind of like Alabama before Saban.  Some small spurts that got us excited but nothing really anywhere close to back.  Alabama finally decided they needed to go get their guy AND their guy said yes. Seems like IU went hard after their guy last time but when he said no the admin hoped Woody could pull out a miracle. 

[str8baller]

I’d say if we were: 

-consensus top team in conf (maybe 2nd best at worst)

-make the tourney every year

-top 4 seed and/or make the 2nd weekend at least 50% of the time or more

-occasional FF run 4-5 years 

-and of course a title amongst that would cement that coach and program as back 

 

[Scotty R]

2 hours ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

Just shows how hard it is, even for RMK

5 final 4's in 29 years but the original poster thinks our next coach should go to 3 in 5 years

[Scotty R]

2 hours ago, OliviaPope40 said:

The game that almost didn't happen.

I was on spring break and watched the news all day after President Reagan got shot 

[Scotty R]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Fair. For about 75 years of basketball “cheating” has separated the winners and the losers. I can almost guarantee that whatever the new competitive advantage is, Indiana will be last to implement it.


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Pretty sure IU was the first program to implement NIL program even before it became legal.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Being Top 25 at a minimum every year. But to be BACK BACK... Top 15 every year.

[Trish]

Great question! 
 

In my opinion. I believe Indiana being “back” would mean being consistently ranked in the Top 25 year after year, if not Top 10 in multiple pre-season polls. Multiple Elite 8 appearances in 5 years or less. 
 

Indiana would be back then.

[Hornsby]

I guess making the round of 32 and getting blown out is back to dolson.

 

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[JF87]

7 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I guess making the round of 32 and getting blown out is back to dolson.

 

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It definitely will get you a raise under Dolson. 

[HoosierHoopster]

On 1/28/2024 at 3:13 PM, Herotime said:

 

Personally, back would mean we’ve hung Banner 6, gone to back to back Final Fours, —OR— 3 Final Fours in five years. I admit this isn’t scientific or anything, and I’m open to being persuaded. But that’s how I see “BACK.”

What say you?

Unreasonable and basically unachievable -- anywhere. 3 FF's in 5 years?? Haven't read through this thread but don't think we ever did that before, so confused as to how in the world doing so, for the first time, would be 'back.''

For me, conference championships absolutely matter. They -- along with regularly competing at the top of conference -- are a much better barometer of how good a team/school is than its MM runs, which, clearly, are 1 and done games in the 'madness' setting of the tourney. Winning well regularly in conference is the route to a championship, in any event.

I'll go with regularly competing at the top of the B1G, with at least 1 conf championship, and consistent NCAA tourney runs, no NIT's, with multiple SW16's and at least 1 EE over a 5-6 year period (with the assumption that level of success continues forward)

[Herotime]

20 hours ago, Scotty R said:

5 final 4's in 29 years but the original poster thinks our next coach should go to 3 in 5 years

Close. Back to back or 3 in 5 years.

[Herotime]

8 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Unreasonable and basically unachievable -- anywhere. 3 FF's in 5 years?? Haven't read through this thread but don't think we ever did that before, so confused as to how in the world doing so, for the first time, would be 'back.''

For me, conference championships absolutely matter. They -- along with regularly competing at the top of conference -- are a much better barometer of how good a team/school is than its MM runs, which, clearly, are 1 and done games in the 'madness' setting of the tourney. Winning well regularly in conference is the route to a championship, in any event.

I'll go with regularly competing at the top of the B1G, with at least 1 conf championship, and consistent NCAA tourney runs, no NIT's, with multiple SW16's and at least 1 EE over a 5-6 year period (with the assumption that level of success continues forward)

What do you mean when you say “unreasonable and unachievable anywhere” ?

[Scotty R]

5 minutes ago, Herotime said:

Close. Back to back or 3 in 5 years.

Never happened here before even with one of the all time great coaches