IUBB vs Auburn (Atlanta, GA) | 12/9/2023 @ 2:00pm on ESPN2

[go iu bb 5,875]

5 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

I said if we miss this hire the program won't recover, I stand by it. Woodson has games where he does a good job coaching like Michigan, then he has games like this where you say that's why he hadn't been a HC in nearly 10 years.

The staff built this roster, and it's not suited for modern basketball. They say they want to play outside in then build a roster to play through the post. We need guards and they put all their eggs in the Fland basket.

I guess it depends on what you mean by "miss." If it had been another Miller hire, then maybe it couldn't recover.

Woodson has been getting to the tournament and landing some 5* talent, so it shows the potential for the program is still there. Even with embarrassing losses like this one, the program is still in a better place than it was with Miller. This, plus NIL and an athletic department that finally seems to care about athletics again with money to spend should make it a more desirable position when Woodson needs to be replaced.

For the record, I don't think Woodson's seat is even getting warm yet even with after this blow out. I think he'll be here several more years, at least.

[iu eyedoc 1,950]

 

44 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Complete embarrassment.

Everybody from the coach to the kid bringing Gatorade should be hanging their head in shame.

[Brass Cannon 24,704]

7 minutes ago, IU_FanClub said:

If I had to bet on it, I would say Woody is going to raise the floor of the program and make it somewhat healthy, but we are going to have to make another hire to get where we really want to be. The hire after him is going to be the one that decides things whenever that is. I have doubts we make many deep runs with the current regime unless we make a real change in style of play.

Our next hire needs to be a good coach that is being held back by a limited NIL.  Somebody that has won a conference tournament would be my pick.  Something that Crean, Archie and Woodson have never done 

[cbp4iu 1,462]

8 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

 

I mean I’m not an expert but you can’t play Sparks in a game like this. This game is too fast for him. Also Leal and Gunn are nothing more than end of the bench depth. Gunn like Bates last year May never be good. Then again in this era in basketball if you don’t show promise after 2 years… Chances are you will be recruited over. Luckily for Gunn IU doesn’t have that guy we are recruiting over him. HeRight now after X gets back I only see 3 guards worth even getting minutes. Gallo X Cupps
it’s frustrating because IU doesn’t recruit decent enough guards lately. So players like Gunn or Galloway can’t be pushed for minutes and therefore thrown in there. Galloway as we all know is a great 2nd unit guy. He’s not the guy. If Woodson doesn’t adapt to the new style of guard play by next year…. We are in trouble. 

[IU_FanClub 1,667]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

Our next hire needs to be a good coach that is being held back by a limited NIL.  Somebody that has won a conference tournament would be my pick.  Something that Crean, Archie and Woodson have never done 

I'm not ready to talk about next hire even though Woody did a **** job today. He isn't going anywhere anytime soon but if we miss the tournament I am done with him. 

[Hoosierfan2017 21,299]

My interest in iubb is at an all-time low. I’ve watched probably a half put together this season. A loss like this is just expected at this point. It doesn’t even really make me angry. Any team that has talent and plays hard is going to punk us more often than not. We have a bunch of soft players. Been that way for years. I doubt we’ll ever be an elite program again. Is what it is. 

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3 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Our next hire needs to be a good coach that is being held back by a limited NIL.  Somebody that has won a conference tournament would be my pick.  Something that Crean, Archie and Woodson have never done 

Winning a conference tournament would be last on my list of qualifications needed. If that meant much, Patrick Ewing would have a job.

[cbp4iu 1,462]

12 minutes ago, IU_FanClub said:

If I had to bet on it, I would say Woody is going to raise the floor of the program and make it somewhat healthy, but we are going to have to make another hire to get where we really want to be. The hire after him is going to be the one that decides things whenever that is. I have doubts we make many deep runs with the current regime unless we make a real change in style of play.

If…. This is a big IF…. Dusty May proves himself again after this season… Someone is going to pay stacks for him. IU can’t afford to let a guy like him…, IF he makes a run again get away.

[Alford Bailey 12,373]

This season is what it is. Frustrating our NIL and the opportunity to play couldn’t land a guard for whatever reason. Woodson did get MM and Ware. Still in with a lot of talent so I give a pass this season. Next year I won’t. Must have a balanced roster including quality guards.

[iu eyedoc 1,950]

29 minutes ago, IU_FanClub said:

The effort today was absolutely inexcusable. That team should have been booed off the floor. Waste of NIL money and waste of scholarship money. Not single one of them earned the great opportunity they are given. The team looked like a collection of losers from the head coach on down. Terrible job by Woody and zero leadership from the players.

 

 

This make you feel better?

 

[Brass Cannon 24,704]

Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

Winning a conference tournament would be last on my list of qualifications needed. If that meant much, Patrick Ewing would have a job.

Archie looked great the only thing he didn’t win was a postseason tournament. Those are the prizes we are wanting so we need to find a guy that has proven he can win them. 

[IU_FanClub 1,667]

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

My interest in iubb is at an all-time low. I’ve watched probably a half put together this season. A loss like this is just expected at this point. It doesn’t even really make me angry. Any team that has talent and plays hard is going to punk us more often than not. We have a bunch of soft players. Been that way for years. I doubt we’ll ever be an elite program again. Is what it is. 

"My interest in iubb is at an all time low" yet you are posting on a message board lmao okay 

[IU_FanClub 1,667]

2 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

 

This make you feel better?

 

Much better!

[Brass Cannon 24,704]

Just now, IU_FanClub said:

"My interest in ubb is at an all time low" yet you are posting on a message board lmao okay 

Just speaks to how much more his interest was 

[RaceToTheTop 25,613]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

Archie looked great the only thing he didn’t win was a postseason tournament. Those are the prizes we are wanting so we need to find a guy that has proven he can win them. 

The reason Archie didn't work wasn't because he didn't win the A-10 tournament.  

[RaceToTheTop 25,613]

2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Just speaks to how much more his interest was 

 

[Brass Cannon 24,704]

Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

The reason Archie didn't work wasn't because he didn't win the A-10 tournament.  

No the reason he didn’t work was because he used a junk system that wasn’t capable of winning consistently against good competition.  Hence why he never won a postseason tournament. I want somebody who had proven they can win consistently against good competition. 

[Brass Cannon 24,704]

Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

 

Why are you so confrontational?

[Crazy about IU 181]

I have felt for IU to be successful under Woodson he is going to have to be a tremendous recruiter. I see a few pick and roles and some screens . But not a lot else. To have played under the best college coach ever who ran motion offense I see no motion from this team. All NBA play a lot of create your on shot. He going to need a whole slew of NBA type of players to succeed. 

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5 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

No the reason he didn’t work was because he used a junk system that wasn’t capable of winning consistently against good competition.  Hence why he never won a postseason tournament. I want somebody who had proven they can win consistently against good competition. 

So winning a conference tournament = winning consistently against good competition?

Let's hire Patrick Ewing.  He's free.